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Judge_Judah said:
White supremacy has been around for ages bruh.
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Not disagreeing with you about that, but I'm asking why was the image altered?

Why was the Black Madonna and Child which is based on the story of Heru altered to the story of white Mary and white baby Jesus in 325
 
Jesus Christ is Zeus without the clouds and lightning
TheMasterKey said:
Lol exactly, the whole story of Jesus is plagiarized and unfortunately there's people who live their lives praying to an imaginary mf.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, there's more to debunk the whole theory, but I'll let that part marinate for a sec.
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lol, stop acting like you dropping bombs that have never been dropped before.....keep posting....the conversation is going places

you keep saying he's imaginary, but to people who believe in him he's very real in their perception of the world,

perception is amazing and way more powerful than you're giving it credit......

Jesus is real, God is real in the mind of a believer. I don't think you truly understand that, cuz you still look at it like it's an unfortunate circumstance.

It's actually quite beautiful when people are living life and walking with the comfort that Jesus is with them. There's no way you can turn that into a negative. Saying it's fake just doesn't cut it. Cuz it's very real.
 
For the record, I believe in GOD and I'm pretty much on the same wave as @du but as you read, you start to see how things changed and where all of this comes from.

I just think we are still (some of us) enslaved in the religion world. The white man has truly put his works on us in this department.
 
if your definition of "real" is limited to shit you can only experience in the physical.......you ain't living
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TheMasterKey said:
How isn't that false? You can take somebody else's life story from 3000 years ago and claim it as urs? That's not false, that's real to u?
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What I'm saying is, there are many paths to "enlightenment". But for me, if it weren't for my zealous efforts to "find God" i wouldnt have even looked further and become who I am today. I have my questions of the truth behind who Christ really was, but i can never deny the tranformative effect applying his teaching to my life have had on me.

But i believe true "enlightnment" comes with the realization that we are incomplete beings. And looking to a higher power to ascend past the corrupt able nature we all have is the beginning. And whatever path you take to reach that point, that is "God" helping you along the way. We all come from One, but we are all not one...until we choose to be. If that makes sense...
 
gotta agree with Goldie on this one.

I grew up going to a pentecostal church. I hated it. It was boring and a way instill fear in your heart to make you believe that we were all going to hell at any moment if we weren't right with jesus and god.

I stopped going for a few years (18-23) and then I went back on my own will when I got older (27-29). Thought I understood the bible and the "history". I looked at other religions because Christianity had to many contradictions.

Then I realized my life is to precious to waste it on worshipping something I can't see, feel, or hear.

Ever since I let go of religion/jesus/god, I've been the happiest, freest, and most satisfied I have ever been in my entire life.
 
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MzKB said:
gotta agree with Goldie on this one.

I grew up going to a pentecostal church. I hated it. It was boring and a way instill fear in your heart to make you believe that we were all going to hell at any moment if we weren't right with jesus and god.

I stopped going for a few years (18-23) and then I went back on my own will when I got older (27-29). Thought I understood the bible and the "history". I looked at other religions because Christianity had to many contradictions.

Then I realized my life is to precious to waste it on worshipping something I can't see, feel, or hear.

Ever since I let go of religion/jesus/god, I've been the happiest, freest, and most satisfied I have ever been in my entire life.
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Bolded...Thats dope af. Good for you.

I love seein blk ppl let go of that god/religion/ jesus/mental slavery bull shit. Love and depend on self. Achieve inner peace and jus try n be a overall good/kind person in the world. No more praying to imaginary friends in the sky
 
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MzKB said:
gotta agree with Goldie on this one.

I grew up going to a pentecostal church. I hated it. It was boring and a way instill fear in your heart to make you believe that we were all going to hell at any moment if we weren't right with jesus and god.

I stopped going for a few years (18-23) and then I went back on my own will when I got older (27-29). Thought I understood the bible and the "history". I looked at other religions because Christianity had to many contradictions.

Then I realized my life is to precious to waste it on worshipping something I can't see, feel, or hear.

Ever since I let go of religion/jesus/god, I've been the happiest, freest, and most satisfied I have ever been in my entire life.
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Been through the same path as you. My grandfather on my dads side was a baptist preacher and my moms side was catholic. Went to church off and on until I was around 13 when my parents split up. Didn’t start going regularly again until I married my wife but her religion wasn’t for me (Mormon).

I never really had a strong attraction to any religion. I don’t begrudge anyone who worships but I’m just not a religious person. So far it’s worked out.
 
great thread.

Agree with Du. Went on my own faith/understanding journey as well.

Thing that always sticks out to me is a lot of folks say Christianity has too many contradictions. Many of these stem from OT scripture

never really hear or read anyone dress down and scrutinize NT text like that.
 
I was raised Baptist but none of it ever made sense to me. I was a reader, at 5 I was reading the encyclopedia set we had to learn, that same year I started going to parochial schools. The stories in The Bible I felt were utter bullshit but still I prayed because I believed that what you were supposed to do. I had a few turning points in my life that moved me further away from christianity, most notably a sermon by Pastor Keith Butler of Word of Faith Ministries in Detroit. Sometime between '85 and '86 this nigga had a sermon totally devoted to why he deserved to drive a Cadillac or a Benz and live in a big house and have nice clothes and shit. He had the congregation agreeing with his bullshit reasonings too. Another point was the death of my Grandmother, my mother's moms. She died from either ovarian cancer or some other cancer of the lady bits. This was a woman that went to church at least twice a week, kept her bible handy, tithed what she could, and so much more. She was a genuinely good person and died a tragic death. She prayed that Jesus would deliver her from the cancer, but he didn't. She lost the house she lived in and had to move in with my Uncle in a house that she somehow managed to get for him and his family just before her death. She prayed for deliverance and was given death's hand instead. Fuck that.

... Once I got out on my own I started reading again. I read about the history of Christianity and the truths behind it.That it's a mix of Pagan rituals and holidays and whatnot. That the divinity of Jesus himself was decided on by men, that the religion had been corrupted by man. I was done.

I happened upon an illustrated book on Zen Buddhism called "Zen Speaks, Shouts of Nothingness" at Tower Records on U of M's campus when I was 22. I visited the temple a time or two to see what it was like but when my wife and I got together I was brought back to Christianity. My family just knew she would be the one to bring me back to "da Lahwd". The complete opposite happened. It took a while, but we stopped going to church around 2008 and became Bahai's. After we left AZ in 2011 we kinda left it all alone until my wife started looking into Buddhism (Nichiren), and we started going. We've been Buddhist for 4 years now.
 
grYmes said:
Been through the same path as you. My grandfather on my dads side was a baptist preacher and my moms side was catholic. Went to church off and on until I was around 13 when my parents split up. Didn’t start going regularly again until I married my wife but her religion wasn’t for me (Mormon).

I never really had a strong attraction to any religion. I don’t begrudge anyone who worships but I’m just not a religious person. So far it’s worked out.
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hows that work? mormon and non mormon...their stuff is pretty strict right?
 
FakeOhMars said:
What are your religious/spiritual beliefs.

I was raised Muslim not religious at all anymore. I would say I was more spiritual then anything, but I dont get too deep into that either. I think everything is connected in a way and we have all some of the "source" in us.
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Raised Christian but we were not church goers, didnt have religious debates in the house or anything like that.
 
put it like this. my uncle and aunt just lost their daughter.

my sister just lost her step son

all of them are firm believers in Christ and God.

And their belief and faith aids their grief because in their minds they children are not suffering, not existing in some void of nothingness..in their minds to be out of the body is to be with Christ. and that not only gives them peace of mind, it allows them to physically get up out of bed go throughout life functioning in a progressive way.

Like if you can really sit there and tell a grieving parent that their fallen child isn't exiting anywhere because there's nothing after death...because God and Jesus don't exist and all religion is bullshit,..

by all means... go for it
 
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