Michelle Obama Is Mad at Black Voters, Not Trump Voters: ‘That’s My Trauma’
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AZTG
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I agree with everything you saying. All of these have been my talking points for years. Like word for word. So we on the same page.
Like I said before, just turned 31 and was never even registered to vote. I never voted for any candidate for all the reasons you listed.
This will be my first time voting and ill vote for a rock instead of trump cause trump did some shit that led to people I personally knew who were fighting for freedom in Syria to die and lose everything they fought for.
And no I dont think any of these mfers are better than each other, but this time im emotional and dont give a fuck. Just want trump to lose.
Race Jones
gangster. grace. alchemy
understandable. i personally want trump and biden to exit this planet expeditiously. praying, wishing and hoping
Rubato
it only matters to us
Proof in a hypothetical isn’t possible as you know but I feel sure about that part at least, that Trump’s winning combination of incompetence and malfeasance produced a worse outcome than we would have had otherwise.
If you feel the Clintons are the same then I guess you’re entitled to think that.
SeaSnake
OG
I think we all saying that the issues faced by black people and our health ain’t political. Its our environment. Now the reason why where we stay looks like one great big alley way is political. But we all rap fans all these issues been around despite who the president was.
A lot of people feel like we need a serious long term culture change. I ain’t saying become communist or socialist but socialism ideas can help us. But white Americans don’t believe in that
Rubato
it only matters to us
Voting for a third party or not voting just doesn’t strike me as effective in the current climate
Race Jones
gangster. grace. alchemy
it did and Black ppl suffered as we so often times do. sad all the way around.
SeaSnake
OG
Exactly! And niggas was running with Obama can’t be the president of Black he has to president for everybody. But we felt left out. And we always vote blue always
SeaSnake
OG
Not to sound cheap but had they given up real reparations they would’ve had our vote for life. And I know a lot of folks don’t trust niggas with money but I know for sure we would’ve been better off.
Race Jones
gangster. grace. alchemy
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
cuz its always about negating the solutions anyone presents.Niggas never come together to discuss viable solutions.....
Mr.LV
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The thing is President Obama gave Reparations to the Jewish community for the Holocaust which was $ 12 million and in the same breath say that Descendants of Slavery do not need Reparations.
Obama administration earmarks $12M for Holocaust survivors - Jewish Telegraphic Agency
The funds are part of an initiative launched by Vice President Joe Biden.
www.jta.org
The Obama administration has awarded $12 million for assistance to Holocaust survivors.
The allocation from the Department of Health and Human Services to the Jewish Federations of North America, to be disbursed over five years, is part of an initiative launched in late 2013 by Vice President Joe Biden to address the needs of survivors in the United States, a quarter of whom live below the poverty line.
Combined with matching private funds, the approximately $2.5 million per year over the five years “will support $4.1 million in programming annually for organizations that help Holocaust survivors,” the JFNA said. According to JFNA, the funds will be used to advance “innovations in person-centered, trauma-informed supportive services for Holocaust survivors.”
Mr.LV
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One of the reasons President Obama said he didn't want to do Reparations for African Americans was he feel that Asian American community and Latino community would feel left out or they had nothing to do with slavery. Even though the Sacrifice of African Americans is the reason they even have shot in this country .
historynewsnetwork.org
Here is Obama response to reparations towards African Americans with Ta-Nihisi Coates
Barack Obama: ... Theoretically, you can make, obviously, a powerful argument that centuries of slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination are the primary cause for all those gaps. That those were wrongs done to the black community as a whole, and black families specifically, and that in order to close that gap, a society has a moral obligation to make a large, aggressive investment, even if it’s not in the form of individual reparations checks, but in the form of a Marshall Plan, in order to close those gaps. It is easy to make that theoretical argument. But as a practical matter, it is hard to think of any society in human history in which a majority population has said that as a consequence of historic wrongs, we are now going to take a big chunk of the nation’s resources over a long period of time to make that right. You can look at examples like postwar Germany, where reparations were paid to Holocaust victims and families, but—
Coates: They lost the war.
Obama: They lost the war. Small population, finite amount of money that it was going to cost. Not multiple generations but people, in some cases, who are still alive, who can point to, “That was my house. Those were my paintings. Those were my mother’s family jewels.” If you look at countries like South Africa, where you had a black majority, there have been efforts to tax and help that black majority, but it hasn’t come in the form of a formal reparations program. You have countries like India that have tried to help untouchables, with essentially affirmative-action programs, but it hasn’t fundamentally changed the structure of their societies.
So the bottom line is that it’s hard to find a model in which you can practically administer and sustain political support for those kinds of efforts. And what makes America complicated as well is the degree to which this is not just a black/white society, and it is becoming less so every year. So how do Latinos feel if there’s a big investment just in the African American community, and they’re looking around and saying, “We’re poor as well. What kind of help are we getting?” Or Asian Americans who say, “Look, I’m a first-generation immigrant, and clearly I didn’t have anything to do with what was taking place.” And now you start getting into trying to calibrate—
Coates: Isn’t there just—not to cut you off—isn’t there, and this is out of the role of U.S. president, I’m almost speaking to you as a law professor now, an intellectual, in fact—
Obama: Well, that’s how I was answering the question, because if you want me to talk about politics, I’ll be much more blunt about it.
Coates: I figured that. I thought that was what I was getting.
Obama: I was giving the benefit of playing out, theoretically, how you could think about that.
Coates: And I appreciate that. And the question I would ask is in that situation, to the immigrant who comes here, first generation, and says, “I didn’t do any of this,” but the country is largely here because of that. In other words, many of the benefits that you will actually enjoy are, in fact, in part—I won’t say largely—in part here because of the past. So when you want the benefits, when you invoke the past, that thus you inherit the debt, too
Barack Obama explains why he doesn't think reparations to black people are practical
In an interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates, who backs reparations, Obama said "it is hard to think of any society in human history in which a majority population has said that as a consequence of historic wrongs, we are now going to take a big chunk of the nation’s resources over a long period of...
historynewsnetwork.org
Here is Obama response to reparations towards African Americans with Ta-Nihisi Coates
Barack Obama: ... Theoretically, you can make, obviously, a powerful argument that centuries of slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination are the primary cause for all those gaps. That those were wrongs done to the black community as a whole, and black families specifically, and that in order to close that gap, a society has a moral obligation to make a large, aggressive investment, even if it’s not in the form of individual reparations checks, but in the form of a Marshall Plan, in order to close those gaps. It is easy to make that theoretical argument. But as a practical matter, it is hard to think of any society in human history in which a majority population has said that as a consequence of historic wrongs, we are now going to take a big chunk of the nation’s resources over a long period of time to make that right. You can look at examples like postwar Germany, where reparations were paid to Holocaust victims and families, but—
Coates: They lost the war.
Obama: They lost the war. Small population, finite amount of money that it was going to cost. Not multiple generations but people, in some cases, who are still alive, who can point to, “That was my house. Those were my paintings. Those were my mother’s family jewels.” If you look at countries like South Africa, where you had a black majority, there have been efforts to tax and help that black majority, but it hasn’t come in the form of a formal reparations program. You have countries like India that have tried to help untouchables, with essentially affirmative-action programs, but it hasn’t fundamentally changed the structure of their societies.
So the bottom line is that it’s hard to find a model in which you can practically administer and sustain political support for those kinds of efforts. And what makes America complicated as well is the degree to which this is not just a black/white society, and it is becoming less so every year. So how do Latinos feel if there’s a big investment just in the African American community, and they’re looking around and saying, “We’re poor as well. What kind of help are we getting?” Or Asian Americans who say, “Look, I’m a first-generation immigrant, and clearly I didn’t have anything to do with what was taking place.” And now you start getting into trying to calibrate—
Coates: Isn’t there just—not to cut you off—isn’t there, and this is out of the role of U.S. president, I’m almost speaking to you as a law professor now, an intellectual, in fact—
Obama: Well, that’s how I was answering the question, because if you want me to talk about politics, I’ll be much more blunt about it.
Coates: I figured that. I thought that was what I was getting.
Obama: I was giving the benefit of playing out, theoretically, how you could think about that.
Coates: And I appreciate that. And the question I would ask is in that situation, to the immigrant who comes here, first generation, and says, “I didn’t do any of this,” but the country is largely here because of that. In other words, many of the benefits that you will actually enjoy are, in fact, in part—I won’t say largely—in part here because of the past. So when you want the benefits, when you invoke the past, that thus you inherit the debt, too
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Disanthrope
OG
On the Michael Jordan documentary on ESPN Obama was caping for MJs "republicans buy shoes too" comments by basically saying ppl like himself and jordan wouldn't be in the positions they're in if they rocked the boat. Obama more or less admitted he was put into place because he wasn't a threat to white supremacy
Dwayne
Not Like Us
I don’t agree with that.
Seeing someone like yourself in a higher place can spark auto and white folks wouldn’t want that.
Iceberg_Taylor
Kill em With A Smile!!
But... the electoral college. Nvm
Blue_London
OG
It's a flawed system but definitely better than what we got over here.
What model would work best In the states?
I think Germany and new Zealand have the best political structure
CeLLar-DooR
OG
So have the not gonna voters come up with a decent plan yet? Or they still just sayin' what they not gonna do.
CeLLar-DooR
OG
Same shit as last time. Just let white supremacy win again? How's that workin' out for African Americans today? Dyin' from this damn virus due to government
Come up with some actual, feasible ideas and let's discuss them.
Come up with some actual, feasible ideas and let's discuss them.