Is Santa Clause Real?

I also understand why people participate in Christmas.
I dont have kids and I cant tell ppl what they should or shouldn't do with their child.
I digress.


BNE said:
no, I mean if u r going to family on that particular date when u otherwise wouldn't, n using that marking on the calendar as a family reunion when it cld be any other weekend (or public holiday or w/e), then u r in effect celebrating the holiday. just not with consumerism.
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aight so we have two different definitions when it comes to the concept of "celebration" and for the sake of not debating semantics.
I digress.
 
I did because my parents told us Santa as kids and it wasn't a big deal

So one Christmas we got what looked like less stuff than previous years but only because the gifts were getting more expensive. My offspring come downstairs after I had been up all night baking, wrapping, assembling stuff, etc and first thing out his mouth was wow we must have been bad cuz santa didn't give much stuff this year.

I lost my shit and told them Santa is me and your father! I mean I went smooth off about how we work hard to provide and to gift and we go without lol.

After that no more Santa
 
Thotful Insight said:
I've heard people say that they weren't going to give a fat white man credit for buying their kids gifts.

Why isn't you knowing that you bought those gifts with your hard earned money, not enough?
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And why is your Santa White. We have several Santa ornaments and they are all Black. Also and when he is older if he asks about Santa's color we will deal with it then. Do your children also pray to a white man?
 
Lurker10 said:
And why is your Santa White. We have several Santa ornaments and they are all Black. Also and when he is older if he asks about Santa's color we will deal with it then. Do your children also pray to a white man?
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Where do you get the idea my santa is white?

Edit: My child doesn't pray to a white a man.
 
Thotful Insight said:
I didn't teach him about Santa. Santa didn't exist til he was three and my mama said something about Santa. I rolled with it. I don't see any time wasted. I'm not out here letting him take pics on Santa's lap. I believed in Santa when I was a kid and when I was told he wasn't real, I was like "oh ok, see you next year for Christmas." He's a child.

There are worse lies than Santa, in my opinion.
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not teaching it, is the same as TEACHING it if he is willfully walking around believing a man comes down a chimney and delivers presents.
"rolling with it" and not challenging it, is pretty much the same as teaching it Kandy.

and of course there are worst lies than Santa Claus.
but why support the lie in the first place? really...that's what I'm driving at?
 
Race Jones said:
not teaching it, is the same as TEACHING it if he is willfully walking around believing a man comes down a chimney and delivers presents.
"rolling with it" and not challenging it, is pretty much the same as teaching it Kandy.

and of course there are worst lies than Santa Claus.
but why support the lie in the first place? really...that's what I'm driving at?
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Well first thing I hope he realizes is we don't have a chimney. Then we will go from there.
 
Race Jones said:
not teaching it, is the same as TEACHING it if he is willfully walking around believing a man comes down a chimney and delivers presents.
"rolling with it" and not challenging it, is pretty much the same as teaching it Kandy.

and of course there are worst lies than Santa Claus.
but why support the lie in the first place? really...that's what I'm driving at?
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Only because I don't see the harm in it. I don't see any devastation coming from it or him being mentally fucked up from it. Everyone tells small lies. It's like planning a surprise party. A friend asks are we doing something for her birthday and I say no. However, I know the truth, we actually are. She may feel sad or mad then boom! Surprise!

So boom! Surprise son, Santa's not real, now let's open these gifts so we can go visit people and eat.
 
Lurker10 said:
Well first thing I hope he realizes is we don't have a chimney. Then we will go from there.
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I have a couch in front of mine and my son said how would Santa get in. I said I don't know he will find a way. Then left it at that. My son shrugged and was like ok and went on about his day.
 
BNE said:
the saint santa is based on is from modern day Turkey if i recall correctly. so not necessarily WASP white but def not black.

Santa the character is usually depicted as Anglo lily white with rosy cheeks tho
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I worked with a Santa when I worked at a photo studio. He made major bank from being Santa.
 
Heres the thing for me....

I dont really care about the aspect of a white man coming down a chimney and delivering gifts. (even tho thats problematic in itself)
I just dont want my kids to be out here believing any and everything.
I want them to question everything, I want them to explore and learn and have autonomy even at an early age.

Im not trying to kill their dreams or disrupt their "magic" as whiskas put it.
I think the real magic lies in a childs ability to discern whats real and whats not.

America is a backwards ass place, with backwards ass morals.
I don't need my children subscribing to anything and everything just because their kids.

teaching them to think for themselves at an early age will benefit them later on in life.
teaching them that these holidays are all bullshit is not hurting them, its preparing them for whats to come.
it shows them that "hey, this world will try to make you believe some pretty dumbass shit, dont buy into it., protect your mental"

I rather have my kids feed the homeless (like I do) on these holidays to let them know shit is real out here and empathy and love is more important than gifts and bullshit.
 
Your kids go to school to learn fuckin lies, why someone would contribute to the lies being taught to their children is beyond me b.
 
I think the harder part comes when they are in the world and have to explain things to others. For the most part my family that are Rasta don't celebrate any of the non Orthodox Holidays. But I see the torment that their kids that live in the states suffer when they can't get a costume for Holloween and stuff. It is tough.
 
BNE said:
then y tf u nosigning me when ALL u added to this thread is agreement with my stance

contrarian ass nigga
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U were saying if a family met up to chill on holidays they're "celebrating" it, which isn't the case imo
 
TheMasterKey said:
Your kids go to school to learn fuckin lies, why someone would contribute to the lies being taught to their children is beyond me b.
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When they are of a certain age you can discuss the truth from the lies. If you start too soon you can do more harm than good in my humble opinion. I wish I could raise my son in a vacuum but I can't so I try to sprinkle knowledge where I can. Also, my wife is not Rasta so she keeps me balanced from too much to soon.
 
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