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@Old Man Cain , I have a 19 year old son in college. I’ve poured all I can into him on how to be a man. I made him get and keep a job from 16, I’ve given him responsibilities, put him on game with women, etc. Hell I even made him pay bills the summer before he went to college, lol.
Even so, he’s still very immature. Not in the sense of acting like a child, but rather being able to think into the future and make decisions based on that. He’s still like a child in that sense.
However, I still consider him an adult in that he has the capacity to support himself and a family if he had to.