Can you be "woke" and date white people?

ChicagoFigure said:
But see we're talking about a human being so being with a white doesnt mean u support white supremacy, especially if the white partner doesnt either.

Like someone holding stock in a company then pullin out when they conduct business in a way the stock holder dont agree with.

Cuz if were gonna take it that far, anyone who continues to buy from h&m, watches nfl, is a patriots fan, doesnt like black ppl.

Including the employees, the players, the black ppl from boston who simply grew up rooting for the "trump team" before trump was president

Its too many layers levels and pieces
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There's a fine line between being a cog in the capitalist machine and blatantly supporting ones oppressor while stating you're fighting the good fight.

For example,one of the instances you provided picture this:

A black man protesting outside an h&m while wearing the monkey hoodie he bought.

Now granted, it's his right to wear what he wants but pardon me if I look at that man like...tf you doin? Either protest forreal or keep shopping there,straight up.

I agree that there are more levels to this but I just want you to understand what it looks like from my perspective.

Can black people date wypipo? Of course and I hope you know that's not the argument.

Can that person be problack and date wypipo? Not without looking like a hypocrite.
 
Whispering Eye said:
There's a fine line between being a cog in the capitalist machine and blatantly supporting ones oppressor while stating you're fighting the good fight.

For example,one of the instances you provided picture this:

A black man protesting outside an h&m while wearing the monkey hoodie he bought.

Now granted, it's his right to wear what he wants but pardon me if I look at that man like...tf you doin? Either protest forreal or keep shopping there,straight up.

I agree that there are more levels to this but I just want you to understand what it looks like from my perspective.

Can black people date wypipo? Of course and I hope you know that's not the argument.

Can that person be problack and date wypipo? Not without looking like a hypocrite.
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I understand what ur saying but as for the bolded theres a diff between looking like a hypocrite and actually being one. A lot of ppl make assumptions without facts and make judgments on surface level. Thats what a lot of ppl are doing in here it seems.

Also a black person dating a white person is not 'supporting the oppressor'. This is implying all white ppl oppress black ppl which is simply not true.

Thats really the only issue i took with your analogy is that its painting too broad a stroke over black and white people and doing so is what leads ppl to think theres no such thing as being woke and dating white, or being woke while being white.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
I understand what ur saying but as for the bolded theres a diff between looking like a hypocrite and actually being one. A lot of ppl make assumptions without facts and make judgments on surface level. Thats what a lot of ppl are doing in here it seems.

Also a black person dating a white person is not 'supporting the oppressor'. This is implying all white ppl oppress black ppl which is simply not true.

Thats really the only issue i took with your analogy is that its painting too broad a stroke over black and white people and doing so is what leads ppl to think theres no such thing as being woke and dating white, or being woke while being white.
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The bold is where we differ. Because the oppression of black people has a direct correlation to the success of whites in America. You individually may not be racist but to say that you never benefitted from being a white man in America is a denial of history.
Accept that as I've accepted that I have my own prejudices towards wypipo. Though my judgment is formed from personal experiences.

What part of the city are you in?
 
Whispering Eye said:
The bold is where we differ. Because the oppression of black people has a direct correlation to the success of whites in America. You individually may not be racist but to say that you never benefitted from being a white man in America is a denial of history.
Accept that as I've accepted that I have my own prejudices towards wypipo. Though my judgment is formed from personal experiences.

What part of the city are you in?
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I dont deny white privelege or that ive benefited from it at times outside of my control. This does not make me an oppressor though nor do i support oppressors myself. And my success or that of my family will not strengthen white supremacy bc white supremacy isnt nor has ever been my goal or inspiration in life.

Are there whites who are willing to oppress given the power and opportunity? Of course. But thats not the whole group as u are implying.

If its possible for white ppl to be 'woke' then its possible for a black person dating a white person to be 'woke' as well. And sometimes (definitely not always) the exposure to other races forces u to be more conscious of such.

But if u dont have these types of experiences or interactions with white ppl i can see why u hold prejudices, u simply dont know or havent met them.

Im on the nw side belmont cragin/portage park border
 
I've lived in the whitest towns to the blackest parts of the city my friend...Born in Roseland and lived in 5 different states including MN just last year. And you know like I know that's the birthplace of all wypipo, lol. I've had plenty encounters with non blacks is my point.

Now I'm curious to know what you define as 'woke', if you've dated 'woke' black women and if it ever worked out.

I gotta make some runs, but I'll be back to respond.
 
Im black im not gonna tell a white male how ridiculous ima look in a relationship with a white woman who dont understand why my people got massacred in the streets by white cops before me up to the whole year of 2017
 
Whispering Eye said:
I've lived in the whitest towns to the blackest parts of the city my friend...Born in Roseland and lived in 5 different states including MN just last year. And you know like I know that's the birthplace of all wypipo, lol. I've had plenty encounters with non blacks is my point.

Now I'm curious to know what you define as 'woke', if you've dated 'woke' black women and if it ever worked out.

I gotta make some runs, but I'll be back to respond.
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Yea...ive hung out in the hood or stayed around there for a long time. If i judged mfs just by what i seen passing thru and not actually speaking to ppl or brushing up the bullshit ignorant mfs do in some encounters as "this must be how all black ppl are" id probably be prejudiced to. But encounters dont count. I mean relationships, doesnt have to be romantic.

If u never had a genuine relationship or friendship with a white person yet youve been around them, your prejudices may be the reason.

But one thing u mentioned, perspective, is important. As a white dude if im seen dating outside my race im looked at as an open minded progressive individual. Whereas if a black person does it u start hearing about being a sellout or doing it for 100 reasons other than love or friendship.

As for woke....i mean socially conscious as far as race goes. The best example i can give u of a woke white man is Tim Wise. If u never heard of him id appreciate u checkin out a vid n tellin me is he woke to u or not.
 
LukeMoonwalker said:
Im black im not gonna tell a white male how ridiculous ima look in a relationship with a white woman who dont understand why my people got massacred in the streets by white cops before me up to the whole year of 2017
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Thats cool but if she does or tries to understand then youre talkin about a different white woman
 
ChicagoFigure said:
Yea...ive hung out in the hood or stayed around there for a long time. If i judged mfs just by what i seen passing thru and not actually speaking to ppl or brushing up the bullshit ignorant mfs do in some encounters as "this must be how all black ppl are" id probably be prejudiced to. But encounters dont count. I mean relationships, doesnt have to be romantic.

If u never had a genuine relationship or friendship with a white person yet youve been around them, your prejudices may be the reason.

But one thing u mentioned, perspective, is important. As a white dude if im seen dating outside my race im looked at as an open minded progressive individual. Whereas if a black person does it u start hearing about being a sellout or doing it for 100 reasons other than love or friendship.

As for woke....i mean socially conscious as far as race goes. The best example i can give u of a woke white man is Tim Wise. If u never heard of him id appreciate u checkin out a vid n tellin me is he woke to u or not.
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Yeah, I know of Tim Wise and yes, that's the closest I've seen to a white 'woke' person...ever. But you have to agree that's not the norm.
And I have 2 white friends and they already know when the revolution comes imma give them a 5 min head start to hide.
Once again, nobody is saying IR couples cant date, fall in love, etc... But the black person in that couple just ain't as 'woke' as they think they are.
 
One of the "wokest" white guys I know had a white wife...

I always joke he's so black he married a white woman....

Racial humor can be so sad it's funny sometimes
 
Oh I got here way too late and this block too hot for me.

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Whispering Eye said:
Yeah, I know of Tim Wise and yes, that's the closest I've seen to a white 'woke' person...ever. But you have to agree that's not the norm.
And I have 2 white friends and they already know when the revolution comes imma give them a 5 min head start to hide.
Once again, nobody is saying IR couples cant date, fall in love, etc... But the black person in that couple just ain't as 'woke' as they think they are.
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The question posed was not whether it was the norm but simply whether or not its possible. If a white person can be woke, a black person dating a white person can be woke, especially if that white partner is woke or at the very least sympathetic and puts in effort to understand more.

I take it u dont think white ppl can be woke so with that we simply have to agree to disagree and thats where the discussion disconnects for me.

But ima white dude, so of course im gonna have that opinion and its not a surprise that as a black person u feel opposite. I do know no matter how woke i can strive to be ill still never fully grasp being black in america so for all i know maybe i am being naive. But whos to decide? Ppl just live their lives in infinitely diff ways as they see fit n everyone else is the judge. Society did a number on us all.

In closing, stop malcom x'ing your white friends!!
 
I posted about this shit earlier in the debate thread... I think it applies here.

grYmes said:
I'm a black man married to a white woman and I'm "pro-black" to the fullest. I've dealt with racist shit from both sides of the spectrum for better or for worse. There's brothas out here who fuck with white woman because they feel a curtain way about black women/black culture and they try to escape. Believe me I ain't the case. My wife and I have argued with some of her family members over everything from Trump to BLM to the Tiki torch whites. My kids know full well who they are and embrace that shit.

Me being a proud black man didn't change cuz I married a white woman. Just cuz I married outside my race it means I'm not "pro-black"? That's a silly way of thinking. I've been in serious relationships with black and white women. Can't help who ya fall in love with. I want the same goal as the next man so who cares who I'm with? Like there isn't black people who've done harm to the cause and had a black significant other. Come on now.
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grYmes said:
I posted about this shit earlier in the debate thread... I think it applies here.
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Thats whats up ,but more often than not that aint the case you got dudes and women who forge relationships based on some frivolous or some deep seeded self hate
 
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Playmaker88 said:
Thats whats up ,but more often than not that aint the case you got dudes and women who forge relationships based on some frivolous or some deep seated self hate
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It’s unfortunate when shit like that happens. Some people can’t help that shit and I’m sure it comes from some fucked up childhood experience.
 
Like_Water said:
This is a conundrum that I'm faced with in my personal life. One of my best friends, that I grew up with, has a daughter by, and is dating, a white girl.

Dude has a master's degree, good job, level head, super outgoing personality. One of those people that can strike up a convo with just about anyone. All that shit that made him sought after by many women.

He started fuckin wit this super young white girl and slipped up. This is the first white girl he's ever been with too.

This wouldn't be such a problem for me, but there are multiple factors at play that are constantly irritating me.

1. The bitch ain't cute. It's shallow, I know. But this nigga had a bevy of beautiful, accomplished black women that he could have ended up with. No body to speak of. Like, I wouldn't have even given this broad a thought if I saw her on the street. She's not ugly, she's just super plain.
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At least u are honest enough to admit u are shallow but it's something u should work on and mature

Also looks are subjective what is not cute to u is to others and what u consider beautiful is not to others

Most importantly if u were a real friend u would be happy for him but u not so this says a lot about your character and your racist ideology
 
To answer the thread starters question

Hell yea i am very pro race mixing and as i always say the soul has no colour our true essence is our soul not no skin which is temporary plus we all originated from the same place some just got white because of climate
 
1/2 said:
well I can only speak for myself but I think thats ridiculous

all this shit is subjective to where a person lives, lifestyle, hobbies, occupation, etc

for instance, I dated all different races growing up.....mostly black but I never discriminated.....my first child is with a black woman

when that relationship ended, I was on some "never again" shit with relationships.....i wanted to be single and just live life and work on me

never once had the mindframe of going after any particular race because i didnt even want a gf, fuck what color she was

my wife and I have been friends since 7th grade....she was a tomboy and played basketball, was always cool to talk to, and was just an all around good person.....started chatting it up with her soon after me and the bm split....and shit just happened....within months we were building each other and making shit happen in each others lives that wasnt happening otherwise.....I got my daughter back (full custody), got off paper, started process of getting rights back, started fixing my credit, and pretty much changed my lifestyle...she left her family's business and started her own, and later bought another, and has now had 2 children for me and takes damn good care of all 3 of them....hair and all (yeah that matters lol)

but we've heard it all and been thru it all....people love to tell us why we're together and whats happening....shits amusing at this point
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your wife is white?
 
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