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ZMaKEa said:
Who you think galvanized more young working class White males in thd South to vote blue.

Bernie Sanders or fucking Hilary Clinton.

Bernie Sanders is the one in Alabama pushing Union drives lol, where are the precious moderate Democrats that are supposed to appeal to White class White people lol.

The South actually has a deep history or organized labor and unionization and leftist politics...but yeah, moderation is gonna turn Alabama around from being a Klan state.
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Bernie Sanders has won less then 7 total red states in all of his Primaries.

Bernie Sanders is not a driver for voter turnout for Democrats in the south. The leading cause of voter turnout for Democrats in the south is.....................





Black people. That of which Bernie Sanders is not and has never polled more than 60% of support with.

Black people do not vote overwhelmingly in support of Bernie Sanders in the south. That's why he can never win a primary but you're blaming this on Wall Street and working class white people? In the south my nigga?

Ask yourself why Bernie could never win red states in his Primaries. It's because he could never get enough support from Black voters.
 
ZMaKEa said:
Yes but Democrats don't say this.

That's my point.

Democrats lead with diversity, LGBT rights, women's rights and obscure job programs and education programs nobody got the time or interest to look ip. Meanwhile the minimum wage ain't gone up, healthcare is high as hell, and zombies on the street.

All Republicans gotta do is say, "Look at the Democrats ruining the country. Look at them giving away government money."

A fucking GED dropout White boy isn't gonna be the type of person to understand why he is a working at Wal-Mart for 10 an hour.

Democrats talking about trans bathrooms, at least the White boy can turn on to Fox and someone is talking about shit he can relate to. Tucker Carlson telling White boy the elites are ruining his life and stealing from him, which is true.

But see, the Democrats believe in this weird race and gender essentialism. Like they genuinely believe the GED dropout White boy wants some moderate half-assed lukewarm politician, that is like a free market fundamentalist and socially conservative but nice to Black people.

And White boy really want someone that is gonna make him feel like he has a stake in the country his forefathers founded. That he isn't a cast off.

Nobody but Bernie was able to tape into that without becoming a fucking White Christian Nationalist.
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And you see what they did to Bernie. You preaching bro
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I see Dems acting like they won't yesterday.
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They did.

The Lonious Monk said:
The Reps not winning as big as they thought they would isn't automatically a win for the Dems.
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Yes it is. If (it's still not over yet) Republicans do take back the House they will only have a slim majority and that will include having a dozen pro Trump MAGA people in the House like MTG who will not fall in line with Kevin McCarthy on everything much like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema have not fallen in line with democrats with their slim (50-50 with VPP Kamala as the tiebreaker) majority in the Senate.

The Lonious Monk said:
The fact of the matter is that the Reps have already come out and said that if they are able to get any power, they are going to use it for bullshit.
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A slim majority is not power. It's definitely not enough for Republicans to do whatever they want. there are at least 12 MAGA Republicans in the House right now and they do not fall in line with Kevin McCarthy so......................

The Lonious Monk said:
If the Reps potentially win the house, at best we're going to see the same stagnation we've seen for the past two years.
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That's a win for democrats.

The Lonious Monk said:
At worst, they clog up the system with a bunch of bullshit like attempts to impeach Biden.
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Another win for Democrats. Also republicans won't have enough votes to impeach Biden. There Democrats already have a handful of Republicans who will for sure caucus with them on a lot of issues. Every Republican in the House is not going to be in lock step. They literally just went against Liz Chaney and Adam Kinzinger types will caucus with Democrats against Trump.

Kevin McCarthy cannot reel in MTG so that alone means a slim majority for Republicans is no majority at all.
 
Focal Point said:
I'm not advocating for moderation, but what am saying is Progressive is a bad word in the South and much of the Mid-West and I as of yet to see the South be anywhere open-minded for that shit, show me where... because again if you understand your base and how Progressive has been associated with Communism, Socialism, and anything else negative, I need for you to explain how that will be turned around for voters that ain't bang with any of that ever. Them rural ass muthafuckas ain't give a good damn about that and leftist politics??? Where????
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That's interesting. Because to my mind, black folks should just co-opt the term "progressives" and structure it around our agenda. Forcing the moderates and liberals to cater to us.

But youre saying that term is so toxic that it wouldn't work?
 
BDP™️ said:
And you see what they did to Bernie. You preaching bro
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Only problem Bernie Sanders had is his inability to appeal to the regular non-college educated Black person because he talked as if race would not exist under Democratic Socialism or the Nordic model.

These White leftists have a race-blindness that turns Black people off.

"Just give every American free healthcare and college education and there's no more racism."

They have this stupid universalist mindset that they cannot shake. They genuinely do not see racism as an issue of family and legacy. They see it as an issue of individual moral failings and malevolent institutions.

Plus White leftists listen to out of touch Black people that stay locked in the academy and not Black people on the street.

When the Black vote torpedoed Bernie lol we saw how racist the White left is. Calling Black folk stupid because now they cracker ass won't go to college for free.

The White Left in America is only concerned with their middle class anxiety or they think they gonna lead a revolution with non-Whites following their lead.

Lol, everybody gonna learn when the Republicans fulfill their destiny, since they the only ones that understand the moment.

I'll tell motherfuckers "I told you so" from beyond the grave.
 
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Los216 said:
Black men who turn Republican during elections are the minority of Black male voters. The overwhelming majority of Black men vote Democrat straight up and down the ballot but the voices of the few Black men who constantly spit out these Republican talking points during every election on some slick shit are the voices that get amplified.

More than 84% of Black men voted for Stacey Abrams but niggas wanna focus on the 14% that voted for Kemp as some sort of indictment on Stacey Abrams? Nigga what?

Meanwhile 23% of white women, 27% of white men, 55% of Latino women, and 55 % of Latino men voted for Stacey Abrams. In case you need help with the math that means more than 75% of white people voted against Stacey Abrams and almost 50% of Latinos voted against her too.

Of all of the votes cast only 1 out of every 10 Black men voted against Stacey Abrams yet niggas wanna hop in here on some "She's not centering us" bullshit when the overwhelming majority of us (Black men) are voting for her.

It's time for all the niggas with the Republican talking points to shut the fuck up because the numbers PROVE that you (Black men) are not as disenfranchised in the Democratic party as you're bitch ass whining is implying.

You're being played like a dumb as fool by republicans that DO NOT SUPPORT YOU NIGGA!!!!!!! They don't give a fuck about you.

Look at the numbers nigga. They got you doing videos in your car because they convinced your simple ass that 10% of us (Black men) are not being centered enough.
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You're missing the point........and proving our point at the same time:



Meanwhile 23% of white women, 27% of white men, 55% of Latino women, and 55 % of Latino men voted for Stacey Abrams. In case you need help with the math that means more than 75% of white people voted against Stacey Abrams and almost 50% of Latinos voted against her too.
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They didn't vote for her because she didn't say anything to address their concerns.


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Abrams and her people are the ones pushing the bullshit narrative of trying to blame black men for dems not winning.


All I did was point it out.


Phil Scott and the African Diaspora Channel saw Abrams and them doing this months before the election.
 
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deadeye said:
You're missing the point........and proving our point at the same time:




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They didn't vote for her because she didn't say anything to address their concerns.



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Lol I'm tryna tell ya, people don't get it. The Democrats are a single issue voting party. If White women aren't motivated to go vote for Democrats, they fucking lose.

If the Republicans stopped being so damn racist, they would get 25 percent of the Black male vote at a minimum. Black men are already blamed for Democrats losing anyway, they already blaming us on Twitter for Stacey Abrams loss. They don't blame White women or Latinos.

Republicans gotta be on that ultra racist shit just to separate itself from the Democrats, that's just the modern heritage of the party.

If you look at the Republican Party, it's younger, it's more responsive to it's base. It actually controls key institutions in America like the church, law enforcement and military. It's actually welcoming of straight Black male voices and concerns. It's not ruled by 100 year old ghouls.

If Republicans focused on eliminating the racist elements, emphasize the heritage and legacy of Black Americans and put Black Americans at the forefront of the American story, it's over.

All they gotta say is, "Black Americans deserve more and it's their country too, they built it."

But we are just not included in their project just like we not included in the Democrats project. We are scapegoats and pawns.

Republicans appealing to minority men is a better strategy than appealing to stupid ass Christian nationalists and closeted Neo-Nazis but they don't see the science.
 
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Los216 said:
They did.



Yes it is. If (it's still not over yet) Republicans do take back the House they will only have a slim majority and that will include having a dozen pro Trump MAGA people in the House like MTG who will not fall in line with Kevin McCarthy on everything much like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema have not fallen in line with democrats with their slim (50-50 with VPP Kamala as the tiebreaker) majority in the Senate.



A slim majority is not power. It's definitely not enough for Republicans to do whatever they want. there are at least 12 MAGA Republicans in the House right now and they do not fall in line with Kevin McCarthy so......................



That's a win for democrats.



Another win for Democrats. Also republicans won't have enough votes to impeach Biden. There Democrats already have a handful of Republicans who will for sure caucus with them on a lot of issues. Every Republican in the House is not going to be in lock step. They literally just went against Liz Chaney and Adam Kinzinger types will caucus with Democrats against Trump.

Kevin McCarthy cannot reel in MTG so that alone means a slim majority for Republicans is no majority at all.
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Yes, having a slim majority is power because it allows them to continue to be obstructionists and that's all they care about. If you think this is a win, then you've set the bar too low. This country doesn't need two more years of gridlock. It needs the government to be able to make substantive change, and that's not going to happen. We're going to keep getting watered down shit because nothing that will have real impact will get through Congress as is.

If you want to be glad that the Reps didn't take over, fine, but people got to get pass looking at the bare minimum of success as being a win. There are too many problems in this country for that.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
That's interesting. Because to my mind, black folks should just co-opt the term "progressives" and structure it around our agenda. Forcing the moderates and liberals to cater to us.

But youre saying that term is so toxic that it wouldn't work?
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Yes! Our power gotta come in a different way and I always like how American Jews and Asians in particular Chinese move, gather a strong power base and not be loud about it.
 
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