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Im over J cole acting fake broke

HellCzar said:
It’s not that simple bruh. And it’s weird that’s how y’all carry it. Because we all buy nice things all put money into our homes and all talk about injustices. Y’all are saying we can’t talk about that because we have nice things? That makes sense to you?
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The point being that most people buy iPhones not 'cause they do something so significantly better that it justifies their higher price tag, they buy them because they're expensive.
 
Bobjones said:
Owning nikes and iPhones sounds like it's making u complicit in the fucked up order of things until u realize how damn near every alternative manufacturer out there is exploiting mfs for profit. Get real ppl. There isn't much out there that's American (or Western) made. The order of manufacturing is to find materials extracted with cheap labour and use those materials to craft the product with cheap labour so the product can be sold at a lower price.

We're all complicit for lack of options.
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it's like The Devil's Advoctae

You can try to escape,but they'll find a new way to get you in the matrix

"I won't buy Gucci ,I'll buy these thrift store shoes "

Meanwhile a 7 yr old kid in Indonesia is making those thrift store shoes, working 14 hr shifts,peeing and shitting in a diaper.
 
Bobjones said:
Owning nikes and iPhones sounds like it's making u complicit in the fucked up order of things until u realize how damn near every alternative manufacturer out there is exploiting mfs for profit. Get real ppl. There isn't much out there that's American (or Western) made. The order of manufacturing is to find materials extracted with cheap labour and use those materials to craft the product with cheap labour so the product can be sold at a lower price.

We're all complicit for lack of options.
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Brooks, New Balance, ASICS, and IIRC Saucony all make shoes in the US and there are others. Hell, even Adidas has factories in the US, though most of their spots are in Asia.

There are options, we just don't buy them.

Again, the issue with iphones and really Apple products in general is that they don't do anything better to justify the high price for those items. A number of years ago I priced out workstations from Dell, Apple, and HP. For the cost of one Mac Pro I could have bought two FASTER Dell or HP workstations and would have had enough money left over for a desktop replacement-type laptop. None of Apple's hardware justifies the price paid for it; you're paying for the privilege of saying you have an Apple product.

That's part of the problem. Those things are seen as a "flex" or a symbol of having money.
 
konceptjones said:
Brooks, New Balance, ASICS, and IIRC Saucony all make shoes in the US and there are others. Hell, even Adidas has factories in the US, though most of their spots are in Asia.

There are options, we just don't buy them.

Again, the issue with iphones and really Apple products in general is that they don't do anything better to justify the high price for those items. A number of years ago I priced out workstations from Dell, Apple, and HP. For the cost of one Mac Pro I could have bought two FASTER Dell or HP workstations and would have had enough money left over for a desktop replacement-type laptop. None of Apple's hardware justifies the price paid for it; you're paying for the privilege of saying you have an Apple product.

That's part of the problem. Those things are seen as a "flex" or a symbol of having money.
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I always thought Saucony's and New Balance were hard,but seemed mad exclusive and not as easy to find.

I think new Balance is a little more mainstream now,but I could be wrong.

Asics were the shit in the mid 90's and Ellesse.

Now you bout to have me going down a "what happened to" internet rabbit hole.
 
Loch121 said:
I always thought Saucony's and New Balance were hard,but seemed mad exclusive and not as easy to find.

I think new Balance is a little more mainstream now,but I could be wrong.

Asics were the shit in the mid 90's and Ellesse.

Now you bout to have me going down a "what happened to" internet rabbit hole.
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New Balance aren't hard to find depending on where you're at. In DC and PG we've worn New Balances for decades now and you'd be hard pressed to find a nigga who grew up here that doesn't currently own a pair. We have 2 entire New Balance stores here where you can go and get certain color combinations for different styles you can't find in other places. 574s, 996s, 1300s...those 3 right pair, we call them by their numbers not a particular style/model, of New Balances are a DC staple
 
BlackRain said:
New Balance aren't hard to find depending on where you're at. In DC and PG we've worn New Balances for decades now and you'd be hard pressed to find a nigga who grew up here that doesn't currently own a pair. We have 2 entire New Balance stores here where you can go and get certain color combinations for different styles you can't find in other places. 574s, 996s, 1300s...those 3 right pair, we call them by their numbers not a particular style/model, of New Balances are a DC staple
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Sounds like how Detroit love top 10's and ATL use to love some K Swiss

WTF happened to K Swiss?
 
BlackRain said:
Also @Race Jones if you're so convinced Cole and his consumers are full of shit then how did you manage to sit through 2 1/2 hrs of a Kanye West album and give such an in depth review? The same man who is out here selling sweaters with holes in them for $500 a pop. You're part of that consumer group you loathe...and you supported to and put money in the pocket of a man who is everything you say you hate.
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Kanye could piss in a jar, and sell that shit for $1000 and people would buy it. Kanye made some ugly ass alien shoes and people buy it without a second thought. People find any reason to hate j Cole and these same rappers who dress like they rich , flash money, wear jewelry most of them are either in jail or dead and most of them don't have any life insurance with their family gotta have a fish fry or a go fund me page for them to get buried.
 
konceptjones said:
Brooks, New Balance, ASICS, and IIRC Saucony all make shoes in the US and there are others. Hell, even Adidas has factories in the US, though most of their spots are in Asia.

There are options, we just don't buy them.

Again, the issue with iphones and really Apple products in general is that they don't do anything better to justify the high price for those items. A number of years ago I priced out workstations from Dell, Apple, and HP. For the cost of one Mac Pro I could have bought two FASTER Dell or HP workstations and would have had enough money left over for a desktop replacement-type laptop. None of Apple's hardware justifies the price paid for it; you're paying for the privilege of saying you have an Apple product.

That's part of the problem. Those things are seen as a "flex" or a symbol of having money.
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Still, most of the parts themselves are from foreign producers. Like the metals in our tech, the cotton in our clothes and the rubber in our shoes. So somewhere along the line of production we're giving in to their exploitative set-up.

But yeah, Ppl don't buy made in America products because they tend to cost more. We're usually chasing the better deal. It's one reason why so many companies go overseas.

Granted, if the difference is merely like 10-20 dollars a little principle can be acted on. But for how long? We ultimately gotta look out for our own pockets. It's only natural.

we also gotta consider the impact refraining from buying overseas products has on those foreign workers. Would a mass boycott / shift in buying habits until sweat shop workers are paid a decent wage work? Or would these companies just move their bases back to the US when their whole point of being in Cambodia or Pakistan, the cheap labour, is no longer cheap enough to justify being there?

I don't know enough economics to answer that. Sometimes industry happens to set shit up that's more equitable for producers, like fair trade practices among coffee farmers. But when these options don't exist it's worth exploring whether there's any real fundamental change consumers can make in their buying choices to make an impact. Which goes back to my point about forced complicity. Maybe the conditions in the developing world need to change for the better before they can fall out of their desperation trap. That's mostly on their government and industry to work out (with help from wealthy nations).
 
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Fake broke steez is really only fake and wack if the shit u rock is expensive / designer or u trying to fake a sensibility about urself. That's poser shit. If ur rich and shop at Goodwill or wanna wear sketchers shoes and fila track suits go ahead, rock the real thing. Cuz Not everyone's about the absurdity of paying hundreds to thousands for pieces of cloth, rubber and plastic. Money don't change everybody. But 500 dollar Kanye shirts that a swarm of moths and sewer rats ate through? It's not a good look.
 
To me J Cole wearing Crocs and jogging sweats is like J Cole thinking a Kanye West sample and a poorly interpolated Lisa Lisa hook was gonna be the anthem of the summer. I don't care either way... but why would he put those two things together, and why is the internet so mad about it?
 
Lab Baby said:
To me J Cole wearing Crocs and jogging sweats is like J Cole thinking a Kanye West sample and a poorly interpolated Lisa Lisa hook was gonna be the anthem of the summer. I don't care either way... but why would he put those two things together, and why is the internet so mad about it?
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That's a Paula Abdul sample and that single is double platinum and charted high
 
Soul_Rattler said:
"Hey nigger. Stop hiding your money. Be the stereotype we believe your kind to be." - this thread
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lmao @ stereotype

wealth is not a stereotype

all im saying is the celeb class only conceal or downplay their wealth to not lose their “moral superiority”

j cole and other rappers try to perform “necessitous” to lecture us about caste.
thats it, and thats all
 
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