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Why is Ciara and Russell Wilson’s relationship so polarizing?

everything you said is cool and all...and i kinda agree with what you are trying to say.

but keep it 100 .....is the upgrade statements about the dude or the dude plus the loot?
we gonna act like if dudes was out here being respectful...it wouldnt get over looked until that certain woman gets tired of being shit on.

then it becomes a matter of ...did the person really change because they wanted a better life with better decisions or is it a case of the nigga wont do fuck shit and he got loot and easier to control?

i keep bringing up his loot because...thats what seems to make him the upgrade.
all that chemistry first site shit is always suspect to anybody with means.

case in point....jayz and beyonce.
the narrative is hes ugly but got money.
should people not focus on his looks vs he married her and takes care of his family?

but i think its been stated quite a few times about how dudes should step up...but in the process of stepping up...ladies cant shit on them while trying to be better. not saying ladies dont have a right to be angry....but sometimes....stepping back and patience will give you all you want.

i have always said...our community is the way it is because the men are not leading or holding each other accountable and encouraging each other to do better.

we should not have more fuck niggas than men.

its alot of blame to go around, but us men need to lead the charge to get it right and take the first step. but during the process...toxic communication and imagery needs to cease or we still at square one.

It doesn't matter when the right decision is made so long as it's made. I mean, how come we can't look at it like, "She decided not to waste her youth on a borderline retard rapper and give a man of God a chance because it's stupid as fuck to keep auditioning to be the wife of a guy who wouldn't commit when he was a Regular Joe let alone a world famous rapper."

I could see if she pulled a Janet Jackson and went and married a billionaire Muslim, started wearing burkahs after talking about how she didn't like her restricted upbringing only to get involved in a more restricted lifestyle, and then divorce the dude a day after a $500 million dollar prenup kicked in. That's clearly a money move. Marrying an old super rich rapper and giving up your prime? That's questionable too.

Two people about the same age, meeting, and getting together? We have fallen so far that this is borderline madness to think possible?

As for who the leaders are, that's a different discussion. What's attractive/leadership material versus what isn't is dictated by flash. I can't come up to you in a 3-piece suit telling you about staying in school when I make a 100K a year, not broadcasting all the women I have, or taking pictures with money. I can't lead you with no flash in this community; people called Obama soft because he didn't get the strap every time someone tried to disrespect or did. No one understands how powerful and strong a person is to have self-control of that nature. Meanwhile, a dude stunting, bragging about his hoes, wearing Gucci on top of Fendi, etc. with fake jewelry claiming to be making 100k a month "who niggas don't fuck with 'cause he gangsta" is down the block. Fuck niggas flash men don't.

However, being a man is viewed as corny.

Literally, the only manly thing that's viewed any type of way respectable is what used to be female tendencies: if you have flash out rages, "beat a nigga's ass" every time your feelings are hurt, and wave guns, that's manly. Meanwhile, women who've experienced those "men" enough know what it gets them: alone. Look at Kevin Gates situation for an example...

That's the overarching problem. Thirty or forty years ago, a nigga like Russell would've been the ideal husband: church going, well-spoken, and financially stable. Every time the church doors opened, Sister So and So would have baked him 15 different pies, asked him to fix her son's flat tire, and some more while spilling tea on herself at the table and snatching her shirt off without thinking to stop it from staining. Dudes like Future would've went to prison, learned a trade, and came home trying to be like Russ to get some pussy. Now it's the opposite. You have perfectly capable smart young black men giving up freedom to be Future/a trapper because being a well-spoken man makes you a corny-ass pussy. Wow.
 
It doesn't matter when the right decision is made so long as it's made. I mean, how come we can't look at it like, "She decided not to waste her youth on a borderline retard rapper and give a man of God a chance because it's stupid as fuck to keep auditioning to be the wife of a guy who wouldn't commit when he was a Regular Joe let alone a world famous rapper."

I could see if she pulled a Janet Jackson and went and married a billionaire Muslim, started wearing burkahs after talking about how she didn't like her restricted upbringing only to get involved in a more restricted lifestyle, and then divorce the dude a day after a $500 million dollar prenup kicked in. That's clearly a money move. Marrying an old super rich rapper and giving up your prime? That's questionable too.

Two people about the same age, meeting, and getting together? We have fallen so far that this is borderline madness to think possible?

As for who the leaders are, that's a different discussion. What's attractive/leadership material versus what isn't is dictated by flash. I can't come up to you in a 3-piece suit telling you about staying in school when I make a 100K a year, not broadcasting all the women I have, or taking pictures with money. I can't lead you with no flash in this community; people called Obama soft because he didn't get the strap every time someone tried to disrespect or did. No one understands how powerful and strong a person is to have self-control of that nature. Meanwhile, a dude stunting, bragging about his hoes, wearing Gucci on top of Fendi, etc. with fake jewelry claiming to be making 100k a month "who niggas don't fuck with 'cause he gangsta" is down the block. Fuck niggas flash men don't.

However, being a man is viewed as corny.

Literally, the only manly thing that's viewed any type of way respectable is what used to be female tendencies: if you have flash out rages, "beat a nigga's ass" every time your feelings are hurt, and wave guns, that's manly. Meanwhile, women who've experienced those "men" enough know what it gets them: alone. Look at Kevin Gates situation for an example...

That's the overarching problem. Thirty or forty years ago, a nigga like Russell would've been the ideal husband: church going, well-spoken, and financially stable. Every time the church doors opened, Sister So and So would have baked him 15 different pies, asked him to fix her son's flat tire, and some more while spilling tea on herself at the table and snatching her shirt off without thinking to stop it from staining. Dudes like Future would've went to prison, learned a trade, and came home trying to be like Russ to get some pussy. Now it's the opposite. You have perfectly capable smart young black men giving up freedom to be Future/a trapper because being a well-spoken man makes you a corny-ass pussy. Wow.
why aint chicks happy for Gabi union?
why isnt she a poster child for a happy black woman?
is it because wade got kids already?

i see the point you trying to make....where she loses any bit of credibility is having a kid with a rich nigga who dont care for his kids.
you cant tell me thats some sorta mistake.
seems like her anger came from the fact the nigga actually wanted her to not get full custody.

she reminds me of the person who walks into a supermarket ..sees the wet floor and warning sign then walks in the water yet wants to sue when they fall.

I dont even like Gabi unions gopher looking ass...but i cant front, i am glad they are happy. could it be a money move...yep. wheres everyone applauding their happiness? i guess wade didnt save her so its nothing to be happy about. she aint damaged goods?

and like i said in another post.....how she gonna go at them same chicks that support her and tell them to level up?
its more telling than people give it credit for.
level up from what and to who?
 
If he wasn't rich and just a regular dude working a 9-5........then that's exactly how he'd be perceived by all the women who know they wouldn't even give him the time of day if he didn't have money.


Those chicks aren't looking for a "good man".......they're looking for a sucker with money.

This reads like the shit niggas tell themselves to explain why Ciara passed them over to feel better..."she dont want him for real."
 
why aint chicks happy for Gabi union?
why isnt she a poster child for a happy black woman?
is it because wade got kids already?

i see the point you trying to make....where she loses any bit of credibility is having a kid with a rich nigga who dont care for his kids.
you cant tell me thats some sorta mistake.
seems like her anger came from the fact the nigga actually wanted her to not get full custody.

she reminds me of the person who walks into a supermarket ..sees the wet floor and warning sign then walks in the water yet wants to sue when they fall.

I dont even like Gabi unions gopher looking ass...but i cant front, i am glad they are happy. could it be a money move...yep. wheres everyone applauding their happiness? i guess wade didnt save her so its nothing to be happy about. she aint damaged goods?

and like i said in another post.....how she gonna go at them same chicks that support her and tell them to level up?
its more telling than people give it credit for.
level up from what and to who?

Part of that is because Wade had a kid during a "break" with another woman and some women said she was dumb for going back to a nigga who cheated...you know the opposite shit Ciara did...
 
he seems corny,but I would think he would get women.

I don't care what they do.

Ciara ain't bothering me

I think niggas just feel a way how she moved on so fast,but shit Future is......Future.I doubt he was innocent and I rarely side with these chicks.

They seem happy,fuck it.
 
No one's saying that another person should or shouldn't be happy.

Since you're willfully oblivious to it, let me explain it:

I guarantee you there were Russell Wilson-type dudes trying to get at her early in her career. Not as much money as him, obviously, but straight laced valued cats. Why did it take this long to figure out that this is the type of dude you need in your life to be happy? Why not just get with a cat like that out the gate? That quote from Pepa said it best: The nice guy doesn't get the girl. What the fuck kinda shit is it where a guy treats you "too nice" and that makes him unworthy of your time? This is the shit I'm talking about when I say we need to do better. Our values are all fucked up to the point where the nice guy is seen as weak or "corny" and undesirable and Thugnificent is the dude with desirable traits until years down the line when you figure out. Men do this shit too and I'd be a liar if I said I didn't let a few good chicks slip through my fingers while I was runnin around juggling a dozen hoes or so and gettin engaged to a fuckin stripper. So in saying "we need to do better" I'm also talking about us men too. I'm doing a bit of self reflection 'cause my past ain't exactly stellar but somebody has to be the one to say it: We need to do better.

Ciara was 18 when she first came out...now tell me how many 18 year olds consistently make good long term decisions about things?
 
Because Russell is a L7, and Ciara done messed with 50 Cent and even Bow Wow. After Future dogged her out and she "settled" for the nice guy after dropping a child. Russel got in there had to wait until they were married before he could shoot the club up, got her pregnant and it was a wrap. Russel doesn't seem hip to the game.

With that said, he seems happy. That's why people keep looking at it. They want him to fail.
 
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Part of that is because Wade had a kid during a "break" with another woman and some women said she was dumb for going back to a nigga who cheated...you know the opposite shit Ciara did...
but he went legit and wifed up Gabi tho and is taking care of his kids.

So why aint Gabi looked at like she upgraded?
Black love right?
 
Russell a grown ass man who been married before.

He's an NFL qb... Dude been in the industry and running game long to know exactly what he getting into.

He pulled an ace...

Before I married Ginger, I heard all the stories, but I didn't give a fuck. 'I'm Sam Ace Rothstein', I said. I can change her."

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Maybe he get off on his girl being extra freaky... Nigga could be a cuck for all y'all know....

All we know is that nigga love her and he happy, and I'm sure he's well aware of who she been with....

Let him do him....

Calling that man a square.... He prolly keep it g more than all y'all.... Clearly none of y'all have the guts to wife up a chick with a celebrity past....
 
Russell a grown ass man who been married before.

He's an NFL qb... Dude been in the industry and running game long to know exactly what he getting into.

He pulled an ace...

Before I married Ginger, I heard all the stories, but I didn't give a fuck. 'I'm Sam Ace Rothstein', I said. I can change her."

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Maybe he get off on his girl being extra freaky... Nigga could be a cuck for all y'all know....

All we know is that nigga love her and he happy, and I'm sure he's well aware of who she been with....

Let him do him....

Calling that man a square.... He prolly keep it g more than all y'all.... Clearly none of y'all have the guts to wife up a chick with a celebrity past....

Bruh she made the nigga wait until they were married to smash when she already dropped the baby 6 MONTHS before meeting Rus. LOL She has the game not him.

Also Ginger helped to bring the whole empire down.
 
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This reads like the shit niggas tell themselves to explain why Ciara passed them over to feel better..."she dont want him for real."



You're either naive.......or being willfully ignorant if you don't think there's any truth to what I said.
 
If somebody making entire youtube videos trying to clown Russell Wilson...then that does feed to the idea of some of these niggas projecting their own hurt feelings

The videos were one video. This was posted in the IC two years ago. I do think you have a point, but what the man is saying is not wrong. Russell was the sucker in the situation. Period.

Listen to the video, because I know you didn't lol.
 
Ciara was 18 when she first came out...now tell me how many 18 year olds consistently make good long term decisions about things?

But we're not talking about when she first came out. She had her kid with Future (oh the irony in that name) at around 29. As I said earlier, all the dumb shit should have been outta her system by then
 
but he went legit and wifed up Gabi tho and is taking care of his kids.

So why aint Gabi looked at like she upgraded?
Black love right?

She does get that as well...especially hearing her talk about some of the shit she's been through Wade is an upgrade...and i agree with what you're saying that niggas like Russ should be the standard instead of the upgrade...but this also boils down to the people you surround yourself with.

I grew up around chicks who wanted the Future type niggas too so i know they out there...but even still I knew way more chicks that wanted the Russ type nigga who wasn't running around, at least publicly, with a bunch of different women and always in some drama. So like I would often say on the IC when i see niggas constantly complaining about women like this i wonder just who the fuck yall are around same as I do women who talk that "men are trash" shit. You often say I try to pretend as if I'm above certain shit or trying to seem perfect but really its me simply going out of my way to avoid alot of the drama i see people easiy fall into. I don't complain about ain't shit women because i stopped having them around me. When that stopped and I made it a point to only keep certain women around then alot of bullshit stopped to. Its almost like there was a correlation or something....

Alot of your perception of the opposite sex is built on the types you encounter most and when you constantly encountering trash then that will start to affect how you view them.
 
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