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I'm not trying to do anything. I wrote in the other thread that toxic masculinity is about misusing power. It is tyrannical leadership. So, if men lead society and not women, then there is no toxic feminity due to that lack of female power.

Toxic feminity is always about hurt feelings. "she nagged me". "she made fun of my small penis". Toxic masculinity is more like "He murdered and raped an entire village and sold the children as slaves", or "he put all the Jews and Slavs in death camps".



Everything you said is true, but the thread isn't discussing toxic masculinity or toxic femininity in that context.



You're talking about it in terms of power and authority.......but the thread is more focused on the behavior associated with toxic masculinity/femininity......not abuse of power.
 
I think a lot of men suffer from toxic femininity.


Oops that was toxic too. Shit.


Why is this thread longer than the male one?
I think some men wanna be women.

:foh3:Oh mane...I have a lil bit of a sardonic, toxic attitude.

Mr. Koncept ain't got much to over there as he does here...ima wait tho.
 
Everything you said is true, but the thread isn't discussing toxic masculinity or toxic femininity in that context.



You're talking about it in terms of power and authority.......but the thread is more focused on the behavior associated with toxic masculinity/femininity......not abuse of power.

I doubt we can remove power from the conversation. Power is what allows certain men to exhibit toxic masculinity while others are unable.
 
When this happen? Men are paid more in most cases

That have been debunked over and over. The first time was by a feminist, she found that women are actually paid damned near on par with men and in many cases are paid more.

aint never been a woman president, a man could rape his wife until the 70s, the whole sexual harrasment in the workplace, I mean the whole MeToo movement has no basis in reality?

You're a perfect example of a person that lets women skate by when doing the exact same thing that a man does. Scientific American already published a study showing that women rape at a rate about equal to men and in prisons they're responsible for the bulk of the rape that happens. Sexual harassment is a two way street but everyone turns a blind eye when it's a woman being the aggressor which is incredibly common. Men don't often complain about it because we've been groomed to believe that we should simply accept this behavior and anything less is "unmanly" and no would ever take it seriously anyways. Even still, roughly 1 in 5 workplace harassment complaints come from men. If men were to become vocal about it every time that number would likely exceed women's complaints.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/media-spotlight/201505/when-men-face-sexual-harassment

"... According to a recent survey, about one-third of all working men reported at least one form of sexual harassment in the previous year. Of the 7,809 sexual harassment charges filed in 2011 with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commision (EEOC), 16.1 percent were filed by men. By 2013, this had risen to 17.6 percent.

Despite the serious consequences that can stem from sexual harassment, whether it involves men or women, sexual harassment against men is often not taken that seriously...
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Here's what happens when male employees are introduced to an all-female workplace:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ny-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html


"... The effect a lack of testosterone was having in our office was even more apparent when I temporarily hired two male directors to work on a series (camera operators are usually men because of the heavy equipment). The team suddenly became quieter, more hard-working and less bitchy - partly because they were too busy flirting.

Two girls openly went after one director, even though he had a live-in girlfriend - his partner didn't stand a chance against their relentless flirting, and was dumped when one of them won his affections.

When we had meetings with men, staff turned ferocious, each out to prove that they were the sexiest in the room. With a male commissioner at Channel 4, one employee said 'Watch this!', then stuck her hand down her bra and tweaked her nipples. The man and I were speechless.

In this climate, I didn't dare employ any men because of the distraction and - even worse! - catfights they created. I hate how much that sounds like stereotyping, but I'm afraid it's what I found to be true...
"


Acknowledging all this does not mean im giving women angel status or saying they are perfect. Often folks bring up those young teachers sleeping with male students and getting literally slap on the wrist and we know a male teacher wouldnt slide. But who goes lenient on those female teachers who are the judges lawyers and cops? Mostly men. Men dont want to think males can be taken advantage of by women sexually thats why any dude who ever reported rape by a woman or told his friends was laughed at. Men as a whole think its cool or funny or a fantasty. We made that shit cool. Thats toxic masculinity on a society level.

I think the reason yall think its bs is because its viewed as attacking manhood. Nobody saying we cant still be men who like sports and violent movies and provide for families.

Actually, you are. You're doing the exact same thing the rest of society does: Giving women a pass for doing the same shit that would get a man in trouble.
 
"You're not a woman so you don't get to criticize my womanhood.

But...

Me being a woman qualifies me to criticize your manhood."

Fascinating.
 
Are we finally cracking the woman's code? oh shit.









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A perfect example of unaccountability and double speak.

Females utilize a lot of double speak which is basically a person who holds two contradictory ideas without them clashing.

Doublespeak usually refers to using words in ways that imply the opposite of what they are.

Like how military spending is called the defence budget or missiles are called peacekeepers.

You're referring to Doublethink.

I don't think women are going to appreciate all the George Orwell 1984 comparisons you guys are making
 
Doublespeak usually refers to using words in ways that imply the opposite of what they are.

Like how military spending is called the defence budget or missiles are called peacekeepers.

You're referring to Doublethink.

I don't think women are going to appreciate all the George Orwell 1984 comparisons you guys are making

and yet #MeToo is Orwellian in nature.
 
That have been debunked over and over. The first time was by a feminist, she found that women are actually paid damned near on par with men and in many cases are paid more.



You're a perfect example of a person that lets women skate by when doing the exact same thing that a man does. Scientific American already published a study showing that women rape at a rate about equal to men and in prisons they're responsible for the bulk of the rape that happens. Sexual harassment is a two way street but everyone turns a blind eye when it's a woman being the aggressor which is incredibly common. Men don't often complain about it because we've been groomed to believe that we should simply accept this behavior and anything less is "unmanly" and no would ever take it seriously anyways. Even still, roughly 1 in 5 workplace harassment complaints come from men. If men were to become vocal about it every time that number would likely exceed women's complaints.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/media-spotlight/201505/when-men-face-sexual-harassment

"... According to a recent survey, about one-third of all working men reported at least one form of sexual harassment in the previous year. Of the 7,809 sexual harassment charges filed in 2011 with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commision (EEOC), 16.1 percent were filed by men. By 2013, this had risen to 17.6 percent.

Despite the serious consequences that can stem from sexual harassment, whether it involves men or women, sexual harassment against men is often not taken that seriously...
"


Here's what happens when male employees are introduced to an all-female workplace:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ny-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html


"... The effect a lack of testosterone was having in our office was even more apparent when I temporarily hired two male directors to work on a series (camera operators are usually men because of the heavy equipment). The team suddenly became quieter, more hard-working and less bitchy - partly because they were too busy flirting.

Two girls openly went after one director, even though he had a live-in girlfriend - his partner didn't stand a chance against their relentless flirting, and was dumped when one of them won his affections.

When we had meetings with men, staff turned ferocious, each out to prove that they were the sexiest in the room. With a male commissioner at Channel 4, one employee said 'Watch this!', then stuck her hand down her bra and tweaked her nipples. The man and I were speechless.

In this climate, I didn't dare employ any men because of the distraction and - even worse! - catfights they created. I hate how much that sounds like stereotyping, but I'm afraid it's what I found to be true...
"




Actually, you are. You're doing the exact same thing the rest of society does: Giving women a pass for doing the same shit that would get a man in trouble.

So who tells men to suck it up and keep it moving who instills that? Other men and boys which is toxic masculinity. Ask a few dads how they feel if they minor son smashed an adult woman. Some of them would be cool with it. They would rationalize it the same way the female aggressor would. Thus showing this shit is deeper than you think. You dont hold men accountable for this shit and act like its in a bubble. But you refuse to get.
 
So who tells men to suck it up and keep it moving who instills that? Other men and boys which is toxic masculinity. Ask a few dads how they feel if they minor son smashed an adult woman. Some of them would be cool with it. They would rationalize it the same way the female aggressor would. Thus showing this shit is deeper than you think. You dont hold men accountable for this shit and act like its in a bubble. But you refuse to get.

I've always held everyone accountable for their bullshit. The problem here is that any time you hold women accountable for whatever they do or point out where they get favorable treatment there's a swift and immediate backlash over it OR women are given an excuse for their behavior which typically entails blaming men or society.


 
Doublespeak usually refers to using words in ways that imply the opposite of what they are.

Like how military spending is called the defence budget or missiles are called peacekeepers.

You're referring to Doublethink.

I don't think women are going to appreciate all the George Orwell 1984 comparisons you guys are making

You're correct m8.
 
and yet #MeToo is Orwellian in nature.

MeToo is Orwellian in nature because women are Orwellian by nature.

They are security focused and fear driven. They are collectivist by nature. Females don't often form independent thought or go it alone often forming group think hive minds and action by consensus.

This mentality ultimately leads to statism, multiple degrees of communism or socialism and outright fascism.

MeToo is about convicting men in the court of public opinion, bypassing proper legal procedures, because the end goal is to make that man persona non grata. The same thing with the college rape scandals gamergate and comicsgate.

Now in the u.k. a woman can have a man arrested for catcalling.

Women will use their perceived victim status to bypass legal proceedings or outright petition the gov to restrict the freedom and rights of men.
 
MeToo is Orwellian in nature because women are Orwellian by nature.

They are security focused and fear driven. They are collectivist by nature. Females don't often form independent thought or go it alone often forming group think hive minds and action by consensus.

This mentality ultimately leads to statism, multiple degrees of communism or socialism and outright fascism.

MeToo is about convicting men in the court of public opinion, bypassing proper legal procedures, because the end goal is to make that man persona non grata. The same thing with the college rape scandals gamergate and comicsgate.

Now in the u.k. a woman can have a man arrested for catcalling.

Women will use their perceived victim status to bypass legal proceedings or outright petition the gov to restrict the freedom and rights of men.

This nigga
 
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