Rubato
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Might change their plans from homicide to suicide but it still needs to be addressed after the visit
Breaking News Shooting At Barrow County, Georgia High School. Suspect in Custody.
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konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Depending on where you grew up back in the 80's, it may have definitely been on your mind.
AZTG
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The issue definitely isn't a gun issue by itself.
But we live in a society where we put laws in place to limit how much sugar can be in a kid's meal to give that kid a chance to live a healthy life, we should also be able to limit access to guns while trying to also figure the issue out.
The world changed alot in the last 30 years. The last 30 years of human civilization has had more rapid growth than the last 300 years, if not more.
We clearly don't know how to handle this shit. There is a reason this is called the anxious generation. Kids coming up in this era are being exposed to too much too fast. And when you add capitalism to the mix, where the idea is to make as much money as possible without giving a fuck about damage done to society, it becomes a nasty mix.
At least Europe has more regulation around things like what they feed kids, what they show kids, and more programs to make sure kids are kept busy than we do in the states.
All that to say, clearly guns aren't the reason why kids are shooting up schools. But the fact is kids are shooting up schools at an alarming rate and it's not rocket science to try to find a way to limit access to guns.
But we live in a society where we put laws in place to limit how much sugar can be in a kid's meal to give that kid a chance to live a healthy life, we should also be able to limit access to guns while trying to also figure the issue out.
The world changed alot in the last 30 years. The last 30 years of human civilization has had more rapid growth than the last 300 years, if not more.
We clearly don't know how to handle this shit. There is a reason this is called the anxious generation. Kids coming up in this era are being exposed to too much too fast. And when you add capitalism to the mix, where the idea is to make as much money as possible without giving a fuck about damage done to society, it becomes a nasty mix.
At least Europe has more regulation around things like what they feed kids, what they show kids, and more programs to make sure kids are kept busy than we do in the states.
All that to say, clearly guns aren't the reason why kids are shooting up schools. But the fact is kids are shooting up schools at an alarming rate and it's not rocket science to try to find a way to limit access to guns.
They jumped the gun posting the black victim as the shooter
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konceptjones
The one between three and three.
I'm gonna say this because clearly this last sentence wasn't thought out:
Kids can't buy guns by default therefore their access is already limited to zero... Legally speaking. Now... There's always going to be less than legal ways to get guns, and that's how it happens and that's something that really can't be stopped. Just look at England and their issue of gun violence. They banned their citizens from owning guns except under very strict circumstances and yet they still have gun violence with illegally owned guns.
Also, have a look at this page right here:
Apalachee High School shooting is the latest in U.S. Here's how many happened in 2024, so far.
A 14-year-old shot and killed two students and two teachers at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, the latest school shooting in 2024.
www.cbsnews.com
According to CBS news there's been over 200 school shootings in 2024. However, hover over each one of those dots and it gives the details. Among them is niggas beefin' ("Escalation of Dispute"), gang shit (drive-by shootings), Domestic violence ("Domestic w/Targerted Victim"), Police shootings, and plain property damage. Plus, a fuckton of those have ZERO victims, so why are these being included??? For that matter, why are officer involved shootings included as well??? I could only find a handful of instances of what was labeled as "Indiscriminate Shooting", i.e. disgruntled, mad white boy shooting randoms, aka "A Mass Shooting", so lumping all the rest of these incidents in with actual school mass shootings only servers to increase the numbers so there's a talking point.
AZTG
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I'm gonna say this because clearly this last sentence wasn't thought out:
Kids can't buy guns by default therefore their access is already limited to zero... Legally speaking. Now... There's always going to be less than legal ways to get guns, and that's how it happens and that's something that really can't be stopped. Just look at England and their issue of gun violence. They banned their citizens from owning guns except under very strict circumstances and yet they still have gun violence with illegally owned guns.
Also, have a look at this page right here:
Apalachee High School shooting is the latest in U.S. Here's how many happened in 2024, so far.
A 14-year-old shot and killed two students and two teachers at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, the latest school shooting in 2024.
According to CBS news there's been over 200 school shootings in 2024. However, hover over each one of those dots and it gives the details. Among them is niggas beefin' ("Escalation of Dispute"), gang shit (drive-by shootings), Domestic violence ("Domestic w/Targerted Victim"), Police shootings, and plain property damage. Plus, a fuckton of those have ZERO victims, so why are these being included??? For that matter, why are officer involved shootings included as well??? I could only find a handful of instances of what was labeled as "Indiscriminate Shooting", i.e. disgruntled, mad white boy shooting randoms, aka "A Mass Shooting", so lumping all the rest of these incidents in with actual school mass shootings only servers to increase the numbers so there's a talking point.
Nah you making false equivalencies.
I'm not gonna go back and forth on my opinions on guns vs your opinion on guns.
First let's set the stage. Everyone knows that in a gun control debate the term "access" means access to assault rifles. Not can a kid access their parents their guns. So maybe you took access to mean something else but let's set the context right since this is a gun control debate.
And then let's not talk about hypotheticals, cause I don't care about what might happen or what could happen.
Let's also not talk about eliminating murders and violence with guns cause that's impossible. The convo has always been what we can we do to limit them. Especially in schools.
All I want you to do is show me statistics about how many school shootings happened with illegal guns vs legal guns. And then show me statistics about how many school shootings happened with handguns vs assault rifles.
Show me stats. No bias. No opinions etc. just hard facts that show the number of kids that have got their hands on illegal guns to shoot up a school vs kids that did it with guns they or their guardians got legally. And then how many school shootings happened with hand guns vs assault rifles.
And I say this with respect fam, cause I have no reason to disrespect you, but I'm tired of mfers twisting angles about this topic.
I'm not gonna give you my hypotheticals or opinions and I'm not gonna read yours. Just show me that kids are shooting up schools with illegal guns at the same percentage as legal guns and that can be the starting point of our debate.
StringerBell
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konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Nigga, if a kid had a gun, then it's illegal. Full stop, even if it was owned legally by their parents, it being in a kids hands is illegal.
And nobody's talking hypotheticals: I gave you a goddamned NEWS ARTICLE with a map to all these supposed 2024 "school shootings"!!!
Nothing I said was hypothetical, where are you even getting that from?? And you're wrong: In the gun control debate access means access, it doesn't mean "assault rifle" at all.
As for the stats... I did that already:
Breaking News - School Shooting in Nashville
uhhhh wasnt there a shooting in Vegas in like 2017 where 60 people were killed and hundreds were wounded? If he didn't shoot from a window I'm sure he could've knifed his way through the crowd or if he wanted to go ninja mode throw them from that hotel with window and still get the same result
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StringerBell
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konceptjones
The one between three and three.
FBI said pops only had hunting rifles when they interviewed him about his son. Maybe he picked up an AR at some point.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
I said it before and I'mma say it again: When it was US having to deal with drive-by's and shit like that at school back in the 80's and 90's, *crickets*
When it's their kids "we gotta do something!"
Inglewood_B
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Most irrelevant question
AZTG
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Nigga, if a kid had a gun, then it's illegal. Full stop, even if it was owned legally by their parents, it being in a kids hands is illegal.
And nobody's talking hypotheticals: I gave you a goddamned NEWS ARTICLE with a map to all these supposed 2024 "school shootings"!!!
Nothing I said was hypothetical, where are you even getting that from?? And you're wrong: In the gun control debate access means access, it doesn't mean "assault rifle" at all.
As for the stats... I did that already:
Breaking News - School Shooting in Nashville
uhhhh wasnt there a shooting in Vegas in like 2017 where 60 people were killed and hundreds were wounded? If he didn't shoot from a window I'm sure he could've knifed his way through the crowd or if he wanted to go ninja mode throw them from that hotel with window and still get the same result
Soon as you said if a kid has a gun it's already illegal I realized we talking about two different things wether you doing it purposefully or not.
I don't think you missing the point instead you choosing to miss it so that means we good fam. Agree to disagree
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