That was not ignored. It's been discussed. Nice attempt at a deflection instead of addressing what was said in the post
RIP Kevin Samuels
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That was not ignored. It's been discussed. Nice attempt at a deflection instead of addressing what was said in the post
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
That is what's being discussed. What you're focusing on is clear as day and you're ignoring the other side of that coin intentionally.
It only seems to matter to y'all that he said some shit to women, not to men.
Society tells women who aren't traditionally considered beautiful how worthless they are every day. Society tells broke men how worthless they are everyday. KS didn't discover anything new or break the mold with his content. He was the equivalent of a shock jock just on youtube instead of on the radio. So yeah him telling people they ain't worth shit is gonna strike a nerve. Thats a normal human reaction.
The main thing with KS was not only his disrespectful delivery or him just being flat out wrong about some shit...but his fan base taking the things he said and using that to further punch down on Black women. Yall keep saying "he talked about men too" and "he didn't get famous until he talked about women". Yet cant handle simple jokes being made about him even before he passed away...who been running around getting chains and tattoos calling this man their daddy and "Godfather". So yeah when someone has a group of people who use their words and content to continue to insult them and call them foul names then it only makes sense they'd respond back in kind. That's not outrage that's simply returning the energy they're being given
No it doesn't only matter if it's only women. I've also said in this thread that it's sad that instead of other men responding to him in a way that showed they don't want to be talked down to is a sign that people tend to not give a fuck about men and their emotional well being. The problem is instead of standing up for that point a large portion of his male fan base looked at him as some sort of long lost father figure who could give them the discipline they needed. So they decided to bow down instead of actually being a man and standing on their own two.
BRIAN B.
Shittypoobutt
my homie went to the 85 South show in Nashville few wks ago
he said at one point a big lady stood up & I think it was Chico who said she looked like Squidward eatin them crabby patties
SeaSnake
OG
He ain’t get famous for talking about men it’s irrelevant
Dwayne
Laissez le bon temps rouler
You know what’s funny about the entire KS show.
Women call in “looking down” on certain men and he “look down” on them but he gets all the hate.
Vagrant-718
Active Member
This.
The reason why he didn’t get famous for shitting on men cause that’s normal everyday shit. There’s plenty of spaces for women to say men ain’t shit and nobody never call them out on delivery but have a man reciprocate it and he “punching down” on women. The same women that called in and said an average man was beneath her
Tayboo
There she go🥰
The women who called in got just as much hate in the comment section from other men and women in support of whatever KS was saying. Not to mention the comments folks made about those women when clips of his videos were reposted on social media....
ajackson17
Active Member
I'm an adult never talk to me like I'm your child. I cut off a parent so who you are. If we can't speak like adults respectful and with tact we have nothing to say. Try empathy I bet you'll reach more people than cruel rhetoric
Exactly. As adults with life experience, we can handle somebody being mean and disrespectful on the internet. Im more concerned with the effect the rhetoric has on those of us with less experience and nuance. Like it's ppl quoting this shit that have never been in a relationship and are having their ideas about the opposite sex being informed by the internet. How is that gon translate into real life.
Take porn for example. Porn is for ppl that already have a sex life or had one. Not for kids and teens who are just learning about sex. Yet here we are. A generation of ppl that are isolated and not learning about sex and pleasure through actually having sex.
It ain't about KS, the delivery or the message. It's the effect the content has on younger and dumber ppl.
Dwayne
Laissez le bon temps rouler
That’s how I feel about rap.
Preciate you being consistent on it
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
Exactly. Some women call in and think a guy working and making $60k a year is below them. He basically holds a mirror up to them and explains a regular guy isn't below you because you're a regular woman.
The delusion of the women was one thing that interested me about his show.[/QUOTE]
Loch121
OG
I never saw him wishing death or being happy somebody died though.
I'm on the fence with KS.
I'm not a stan nor a hater.
Compared to other manosphere creators,he actually is more gentle and kind.
Plenty of women are online calling men everything but a child of god and if they died I still wouldn't be happy they died or think it was some type of karma.
Shiiiit Snoop said Bitches ain't Shit ,but hoes and tricks and if Snoop died the world would cry collectively.
Snoop was barely in his 20s when he was making those songs. If Snoop came out now in his 50s saying the same stuff then you know people would react negatively too. Hell people reacted negatively in the 90s. Don't forget they literally were steam rolling rap cds in protest or how vulgar and misogynistic alot of 90s rap was. And has been said people werent as mad at the music itself as they were about the effect it had on younger listeners who then also went around screaming bitches aint shit...much the way alot of Kevin Samuels fans felt they could now go around calling women all sorts of fat bitches as has been done in this very thread. That's not a good comparison at all.
Loch121
OG
Snoop will tell you a bitch still ain't shit today
SeaSnake
OG
Niggas forget that shit everytime
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That's one thing that also confuses many others about people who liked his show. This weird kick people get out of seeing those women be "humbled". Like what do you get out of that personally? I've said before on here that I find it stupid when women get upset about men whose preferences or standards aren't them...and I think it's just as stupid when men get upset when women express preferences in a man they don't fit either. A woman who already aint like you because you weren't some 6 figure earner ain't all of a sudden gonna be a good match to you after being cussed out over twitter or a youtube live stream and told her standards aren't realistic.
People like who they like and if you ain't it then ain't no amount of humbling that person really gonna change that. But it seems like alot of people, both men and women, somehow think they can bring someone down to their level enough to the point that they can get somebody who ain't their type to begin with.
Bow to Royalty
Just facts
It's not confusing. People just act like it is. Simon Cowell was extremely popular for humbling people on American Idol. Diddy's having Da Band walk for his cheesecake was joked about for a long time. "That's a one hot album every 10 year average, and that's so lame", "That's why I fucked your bitch you fat mother fucker", the whole Story of Adidon. Corey Holcomb's comments on Lizzo.
Everyone gets the entertainment aspect all those times. Then KS comes up, and people can't understand.