The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
Lol So now, trying to appeal to other demographics is a bad thing? You DC dudes are sad .
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We were talking about the movies though.
A TV show can actually develope characters and world build in a way movies don't often have the luxury to do.
The argument changes in too many ways when you present tv shows, mainly because the TV shows are ideal for building up lesser known characters... So I ain't mad at either brand for taking black leads and really giving us authentic black shows...
I have very little issues with Luke cage or any of the netflix marvel series....I even was a fan of both iron fist seasons.
So that's why I called it moving the goal post.
What they did with BP is completely different than what they did with BL &LC
It's a blatant exploitation of their built fan base.
They literally can throw any crap at y'all and y'all eat it up.
They are telling you that Captain marvel is just to appease feminist movie goers. They'll do some half assed tie ends, but they're basically using the same formula they used to draw in the negroes with BP.... And they're bragging about it...
Yet when I or the growing numbers of fans who catch on point it out... You marvel-tards lose your collective minds..
Cognitive dissonance....
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
It's a blatant exploitation of their built fan base.
They literally can throw any crap at y'all and y'all eat it up.
They are telling you that Captain marvel is just to appease feminist movie goers. They'll do some half assed tie ends, but they're basically using the same formula they used to draw in the negroes with BP.... And they're bragging about it...
Yet when I or the growing numbers of fans who catch on point it out... You marvel-tards lose your collective minds..
Cognitive dissonance....
1) By your dumb logic, Marvel could never make a movie that didn't star a white male without exploiting some group.
2) The people behind BP didn't even know if they movie would do well because traditionally movies with mostly black casts don't do blockbuster numbers. No one expected it to blow the way it did. How could they have possibly made that movie solely to exploit black people if they believed the abundance of black people would be a weakness.
3) They've been trying to make a Black Pantber movie for years, since before Blade came out. Stan Lee was actually one of the people pushing for the MCU BP. So again, how could it be exploitation of the fanbase if man of the people behind the movie wanted to do it since before there was an established MCU fanbase?
They took the hottest black director...
They took every top black actor they could grab.....I mean they even had Angela Bassett and Forrest Whitaker for crying out loud
And they took a gamble that this movie could be genuine enough to resonate with the consumer power of black america at Large...
It was a gamble.... But not a mistake....
There's no such thing as a billion dollar mistake....
They took every top black actor they could grab.....I mean they even had Angela Bassett and Forrest Whitaker for crying out loud
And they took a gamble that this movie could be genuine enough to resonate with the consumer power of black america at Large...
It was a gamble.... But not a mistake....
There's no such thing as a billion dollar mistake....
Reading the comments in this thread like
What in the entire fuck does any of this have to do w/ pandering.
So BL and LC aren't pandering cause they can flesh out storylines and characters more than a movie can?
Building up a lesser known characters through proper development and gaining a dedicated following is much different than just trying to appease an entire demographic just by giving them something generic to cheer for.
But you don't wanna see a difference. You wanna see what you wanna see
But you don't wanna see a difference. You wanna see what you wanna see
The writing, acting, directing, character development, the story arc, the cinematography or whatever else you wanna list. Ain't got nothing to do w/ if a movie or tv show is pandering to a certain demographic.
Coogler did an amazing job because he's an amazing director.
Like I said, I don't wanna hear all that "unexpected" crap... That shit did what it was supposed to do....
Call me crazy.... But I notice shit.
I notice the attention social media brings. If I personally was ever to get my books published, or even got an opportunity to write a movie... You know how I... Me would promote it??
On here. I'd get the funniest people to make memes and then pay them to share and re share them until they go viral. I already told AP and Goldie as much like 2 years. Why?
Cuz it's a genius marketing plan. You make enough viral funny memes the shit could be bullshit, people still gonna support it. Look at birdhouse.
Some people hated it, but the memes impacted the views and even the book sales. It was more of a trendy movie than anything.
And that's what I was calling BP from the jump, trendy. Now the movie wasn't bad at all, but it definitely benefitted and became bigger than what it was because of the how behind it "black Twitter" was....
And that was on purpose.
Marvel got the hottest young black director. Every popular black actor they could grab. And 100% took advantage of black Twitter to guarantee a billion plus from the trendy purchasing nature of black folk.
The spectacle of it all over shadowed the movie.
It wasn't even coogler's best movie. But it was prolly the biggest financial success cuz of allllllllll the reasons I been shoveling down y'all throat for over a year.
Y'all refused to see it cuz y'all black and really bought the hype.
But now that they doing THE EXACT SAME THING with feminist.... People starting to see it.
Like I said, I don't wanna hear all that "unexpected" crap... That shit did what it was supposed to do....
Call me crazy.... But I notice shit.
I notice the attention social media brings. If I personally was ever to get my books published, or even got an opportunity to write a movie... You know how I... Me would promote it??
On here. I'd get the funniest people to make memes and then pay them to share and re share them until they go viral. I already told AP and Goldie as much like 2 years. Why?
Cuz it's a genius marketing plan. You make enough viral funny memes the shit could be bullshit, people still gonna support it. Look at birdhouse.
Some people hated it, but the memes impacted the views and even the book sales. It was more of a trendy movie than anything.
And that's what I was calling BP from the jump, trendy. Now the movie wasn't bad at all, but it definitely benefitted and became bigger than what it was because of the how behind it "black Twitter" was....
And that was on purpose.
Marvel got the hottest young black director. Every popular black actor they could grab. And 100% took advantage of black Twitter to guarantee a billion plus from the trendy purchasing nature of black folk.
The spectacle of it all over shadowed the movie.
It wasn't even coogler's best movie. But it was prolly the biggest financial success cuz of allllllllll the reasons I been shoveling down y'all throat for over a year.
Y'all refused to see it cuz y'all black and really bought the hype.
But now that they doing THE EXACT SAME THING with feminist.... People starting to see it.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Nah, I'm not rolling. Black Panther as a movie was better than most other Marvel movies period. Acting, story, etc. It earned its spot as top 3 or 4 grossing Marvel movies ever.
Saying "black Twitter" pushed it to success is self hate at its finest. Like a black movie can't be that good on its own merit, smh.
You putting your love for DC above black love bruh.
When DC going to put out a majority black movie?
Was it coogler's best movie?
Was it the best marvel movie?
The answer is no to both of those questions.
Was it a good movie?
Yes, absolutely.
But the spectacle over shadowed the actual product.
As Movie Creed is much better than BP. But we know BP made way more money...
And it's because of the spectacle surrounding it.
Was it the best marvel movie?
The answer is no to both of those questions.
Was it a good movie?
Yes, absolutely.
But the spectacle over shadowed the actual product.
As Movie Creed is much better than BP. But we know BP made way more money...
And it's because of the spectacle surrounding it.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
And I'd say Wonder Woman deserved the spot as a top grossing DC movie. It wasn't propagandizing to women or feminists that put it over the top. It was just a damn good movie from a woman director with a woman lead.
This is the problem. If black or female movies do well, it's because they're pandering to a demographic. If a white movie does well, it was just a good movie.
This is the problem. If black or female movies do well, it's because they're pandering to a demographic. If a white movie does well, it was just a good movie.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
It was better than Creed, for sure. I loved Creed, but Black Panther had the spectacle along with great story and acting.
I loved the pro-black themes in the movie. Calling whites colonizers, African traditional clothing, African traditions highlighted, etc.
Why is Creed better? Cause a white man Rocky was his mentor?
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
No, to say it did well because it pandered to "black Twitter" is a testament of self hate.
Creed was a better story because there was more of a journey and character development.
I felt more connected to Adonis, his struggles, his short temper, his determination, his passion. I felt the development of his girl. Her going deaf, yet wanting to be a singer touched me. I used to go to school in Philly and I loved that city as a back drop. And I was legit cheering for homie the end.
BP was cool, but most of the movie took place in like 2 or 3 days there was no real growth.... The whole James Bond scene was great action, and the heist was cool for dialogue. But again... There was no real development Imo. Just a series of events everybody reacted to.
It was definitely entertaining, but I feel Creed took me on a better ride.
I felt more connected to Adonis, his struggles, his short temper, his determination, his passion. I felt the development of his girl. Her going deaf, yet wanting to be a singer touched me. I used to go to school in Philly and I loved that city as a back drop. And I was legit cheering for homie the end.
BP was cool, but most of the movie took place in like 2 or 3 days there was no real growth.... The whole James Bond scene was great action, and the heist was cool for dialogue. But again... There was no real development Imo. Just a series of events everybody reacted to.
It was definitely entertaining, but I feel Creed took me on a better ride.
How so?
Does black Twitter not hype shit up?
Were niggaz not doing the most for laughs and likes last year for this movie?
How many memes and pics and videos about bp did you see and laugh at before the movie even came out. Prolly thousands. Black people already determined that they were going to pack out every theater and were actually throwing parties before the movie even came out.
How is acknowledgement of these things that 100% did transpire self hate?
So I just gotta see shit and not speak on it, or risk being a hater of my race?
Cuz of a movie?
Yea.... Constant confirmation that y'all drank way too much of the Kool-aid