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Jay-Z Partnering With The NFL For Social Justice

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I am not playing this game. My post are statements.
Its not a game tho....
Who really gentrified that area? Who got the blame?
Why would being apart of the nets blind someone from gentrification?

People said he was only a fraction of percent but he gentrified a whole area? Or didn't stop it or whatever.

How did he distract from it? How's he to blame?
 
This is pretty much what I've been saying from the jump about this situation. I was being cautiously optimistic about everything but I was also very aware that the events that so far has transpired would most likely occur. If Jay-Z wanted to work with the NFL to help his artist who work for his company get more global exposure then he should've just did so without all the other fanfare or press conferences. His company still could've donated money to whatever charity they wanted to and he wouldn't be as ridiculed for belittling the movement and work these players have put in. Instead he piggybacked off what they started and pretty much chastised them publicly.

One thing I keep hearing and seeing people post that just doesn't make a lot of sense to me is the way some are trying to bash the players for continuing to work while still being vocal about these issues. These players who continue to work, protest, and donate their time and money to these causes should be highly commended and not denigrated. Their skill is highly specialized in a sense due to the NFL being the only real league to make a living plying their trade. These players are in a very fickle situation where they could lose employment which will hurt their families and the money to help fund their philanthropic efforts. They also use their status as players to assist in their good deeds by securing funding, advertising, and donations for their off the field endeavors. Not to mention all the backlash and threats they get from the public.

Jay-Z doesn't need the NFL for anything because he has already built up massive connections and wealth through different means. If he and his colleagues wanted to start up different programs he could do it easily. I mean he already has programs up and running.
All true.....
But do you think all Hus business are strictly with black or non racist white people?
He still gives back as well.
Why wouldn't this be different?
The halftime show is I think the worlds most expensive commercial time or whatever.

Does it matter how all the ways he monetizies things as long as he's helping black people?

What's if one of his scholarships helped your child complete college? Does him being from marcy or Beverly hills really matter?

Talk got legit beefs. But don't lose focus
 
the contratcs signed..

the inks dry.

jay working with them.

they both benefiting?

so now what?

what would yall do?

what do yall suggest?

put yourself in his shoes, what would you change?
 
Its not a game tho....
Who really gentrified that area? Who got the blame?
Why would being apart of the nets blind someone from gentrification?

People said he was only a fraction of percent but he gentrified a whole area? Or didn't stop it or whatever.

How did he distract from it? How's he to blame?
I wasn't referring to Brooklyn the city I was referring is the "social justice" spearheaded by response to Kaeps opting out of standing for the flag.. The NFL did that
 
but real question....

do yall have the same energy and anger for niggas who are doing nothing like you do for a man how is doing a little but?
plenty of people with money who said fuck it.....i got mine for me and my family.

yall mad at them the same?

do yall question these rich niggas about what they doing to give back? or is it.....dont count a mans pocket? yet we keep to reffering to jays as having enough to walk away.

and what is considered helping the black community?
cuz anyone can donate money....tax write off. even if the intent is good right?
so is it fuck them because it was only money and not time?

can not we stay surface?
 
Kaep signed a NDA.

I respect the man but that was weak. But nobody say anything bout that but get your money
now why would he have to sign a NDA when he fighting for lost wages while protesting police brutality that made no one want to hire him?

even after he signed it.....they still didnt hire him but they gave him his lost wages.

so what was the point? Just to get his loot he lost? but now he must stay silent about his fight for justice?

so where does that leave the people he was fighting for justice for?
 
When has Kap stopped talking about brutality tho? The nfl shit was about a job treating employees unfairly because of a stance they took. But I mean a concert just changes all that. Progress
 
All true.....
But do you think all Hus business are strictly with black or non racist white people?
He still gives back as well.
Why wouldn't this be different?
The halftime show is I think the worlds most expensive commercial time or whatever.

Does it matter how all the ways he monetizies things as long as he's helping black people?

What's if one of his scholarships helped your child complete college? Does him being from marcy or Beverly hills really matter?

Talk got legit beefs. But don't lose focus

With all due respect........ what does anything you typed have to do with my post you quoted or any of the post I've made in this thread?

I think I've been very consistent and concise with my feelings on this from when I 1st heard of this joint venture with the NFL and Jay-Z. My first and real issue was the optics of the whole situation and how Jay-Z pretty much stated that these athletes haven't been doing anything since the kneeling and the fact that he didn't even talk to any of the players about any of his plans with the league. I could understand him not reaching out to them if he was just straight up doing a business venture but according to him it was about taking over where the players started, which was once again a slap in the face to what these players have been doing in their communities. If he actually talked to the players or did his homework he would know that many off those guys are doing good stuff and using the situation to help get funding for their projects. He belittled these men publicly and made it seem like their kneeling was useless for the world to see.......

I never knocked Jay-Z for his philanthropy or business acumen and I understand that most likely most of the people he is in business with is on some bullshit when it comes to social issues. Most people who have that type of money (unless it's inherited) have definitely got some skeletons in their closet or bodies they've used as steps on their way to the top, it's been like that forever and will most likely continue to be. My thing is this though........once MOST have gained so much money, influence, and power they do and work with who they want unless it's a huge gain in it for them. Then they will play ball or humble themselves for their overall greater good.

Partnership with the NFL to sell merchandise and put on concerts most likely isn't going to change these owners or fans minds on this subject. If it does get some of these owners to use their cache to influence some of their politician friends to try and implement local, state, and countrywide laws that have stricter regulations on these police officers then I would be impressed.
 
Kaep signed a NDA.

I respect the man but that was weak. But nobody say anything bout that but get your money
Why was it weak? Nigga had enough to prove he was being blackballed.

What he need to speak on it more for?p
 
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This didn't really touch on his comments he made on "Speak for Yourself" in my opinion. He basically talked about knowing him a little before he hooked up with his lady and how he wasn't really on this kick then. The funny thing is he also said just like on "Speak for Yourself" that the guy did change once he hooked up with his lady Nessa. So he kinda voided out his comments with that statement, people can and do change over time whi h is what Mr. Wiley alluded to.

Mr. Wiley also pointed out that not everyone who starts a movement is built to lead one, which is very true. I've never heard Kaepernick or people around him say he wanted to lead anything so what is his point?

Mr. Wiley in the "Speak for Yourself " video I seen pretty much drove home what I've been saying from my initial statement that Jay-Z belittled these players efforts publicly and just like Jay-Z, Mr. Wiley is being divisive and doing the NFL's dirty work and Mr. Wiley is doing it for FREE! At least Jay-Z is getting paid from this. Lol
 
I just wish Kaep would make an actual statement at this point. Fuck all these subs... speak on it already bruh
He is smart,.he is playing the chess that everyone is attributing to Jay. Think Jay pulled this off thinking it was gonna go smooth. Think Jay dont got a tiered force of advocates and "influencers" ready for rebuke and rebuttal.

Cant strike you when you stick and move, when you dont show where your protection is, what you are willing to sacrifice. You really think this nigga wanna job? He dont want no job and he knows the nfl ain't gonna sign him. It's to reignite the notion of the denial is based on standing up and not due to his talent level.

As long as Jay doesnt know where to aim, he cant shoot. He can however have niggaz like Wiley try to bait him out the fox hole. Nah, I see now that this man is way more intellectual than I thought he was. Just in how he is handling this make me proud of him.

He understands
 
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