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Is the conscious community frauds?

LOL just because you say something doesn't make it true. If you're really serious about understanding the nature of an issue you can't go into it with manufactured data.

I don't agree that black people are more susceptible to being exploited by con artists who manipulate fear, ignorance, uncertainty and insecurity for money. I don't think there's any evidence to even remotely suggest that being true.

Sure the angle may be different when targeting black people specifically but it's all still the same game: There's a sucker born every minute.
im serious and thats why i am asking.
black people have been sold lies and red lined and placed in debt after being sold a dream, sold flooded cars as new and a whole buncha other shit.
i never said we are more susceptible i said we seem to be taken advantage of more.
while i am sure others have too....its not like we are.

that dont bother you a bit?

and before anyone says it...i am asking info, having a conversation, not shitting on anyone
 
im serious and thats why i am asking.
black people have been sold lies and red lined and placed in debt after being sold a dream, sold flooded cars as new and a whole buncha other shit.
i never said we are more susceptible i said we seem to be taken advantage of more.
while i am sure others have too....its not like we are.

that dont bother you a bit?

and before anyone says it...i am asking info, having a conversation, not shitting on anyone

What you're talking about now and what the subject of the thread is about are two whoooole different topics.
 
You already know the answer to that. lol


That's silly, and I'm glad you're not in charge of making any decisions that matter.
i was kidding, i know cancer doesn't discriminate but speaking in general, there's no combination of words you can string together that would make me "care" about any group other than black people, because that "care" is not reciprocal.
 
i was kidding, i know cancer doesn't discriminate but speaking in general, there's no combination of words you can string together that would make me "care" about any group other than black people, because that "care" is not reciprocal.

Are you saying that you believe that there are no non-blacks that care about the welfare of black people?

I mean no non-black group cares about blacks as a group, but unless they are special interest groups, you'd be hard pressed to find any group that cared about something in particular.
 
i got a question for you.

i see and understand what you guys are saying about all these guys and them milking folk....

but why do you think it is easy for them?

im not gonna front and act like i wasnt riding for umar.....i was drinking the koolaid but never sent loot.

is it that we as a group look for hope and/or happiness by any means?

It's easy for these guys because of this country's historic shitty treatment of black people. Which leads to a serious lack of discernment and objectivity

Even simpler answer.... capitalism
There's a "market" out there for it exploiting the (RIGHTEOUS) anger,frustration,paranoia and hatred of a oppressed people
There's a "market" in manipulating the (GENUINE) desire for knowledge,unity,equality and justice of a repressed people

Emotionalism can take you a long way in capitalism

You can keep your "target market" in a perpetual state of outrage by exploiting their anger & frustration.
For ex. go to Professor Black Truth's YouTube channel.
It's a cesspool of negativity and hopelessness all presented as "pro-blackness" and "taking it to the man!"
 
Disagree. The word fraud is strong and inaccurate. Again, this heightened level of pushback is whats suspect and it seems only @Kzzl recognizes that in this thread.

Furthermore i don't even care about Tariq the person enough to dismiss the message. Yall fish for reasons to discredit instead of recieving the message. Like even if Tariq murdered his own wife it doesn't negate the fact he dropped a jewel and put me on to OJ being innocent.
Message >>> messenger

But if he murdered his wife but trys to tell you how to treat women you gonna believe it?
 
i got a question for you.

i see and understand what you guys are saying about all these guys and them milking folk....

but why do you think it is easy for them?

im not gonna front and act like i wasnt riding for umar.....i was drinking the koolaid but never sent loot.

is it that we as a group look for hope and/or happiness by any means?

Religion. Conscious niggas just a new non white religion. Black people are very religious
 
I wouldn't even have a problem with these people or any movement of any perspective (liberal, conservative, pro black, etc) if their followers were capable of critical thinking. The reason all these armchair philosophers pop up with millions of viewers is because ppl dont wana do their own research. They want others to have done the work, get on YouTube, Twitter, IG Live, Facebook etc and tell them what they're supposed to think and/or be mad about. It's why all these ppl use the same terminology that always gets repeated. For example, if you talk to somebody that says "bedwench" you know they one of Tariq's sheep.

All these mfs do is insulate themselves with the same information that affirms their confirmation bias and rewards their unwillingness to step off the ledge and have an original thought. Being apart of the group is more important.
 
I wouldn't even have a problem with these people or any movement of any perspective (liberal, conservative, pro black, etc) if their followers were capable of critical thinking. The reason all these armchair philosophers pop up with millions of viewers is because ppl dont wana do their own research. They want others to have done the work, get on YouTube, Twitter, IG Live, Facebook etc and tell them what they're supposed to think and/or be mad about. It's why all these ppl use the same terminology that always gets repeated. For example, if you talk to somebody that says "bedwench" you know they one of Tariq's sheep.

All these mfs do is insulate themselves with the same information that affirms their confirmation bias and rewards their unwillingness to step off the ledge and have an original thought. Being apart of the group is more important.


For one, damn near everyone on social media qualifies as an "armchair" philosopher now. Including you, me, and most on social media.

Second, the word "wench" is as old as the English language itself.

Black Bed Wench is simply a more descriptive label specific to our possible situations and also serves as the female counterpart to Slave Buck, Buck, Bull, and there may be more. The latters being black male descriptions for sex play by white slave masters, cuckold couples, or white women to this day when fetishizing black men. I personally have been referred to as such without knowing the context involved. And Pornhub or Google should also show this. I've not yet seen with certainty "black bed wench" used, but the syntax fits perfectly. Aligning with the sex play of white males that fetishize sex with black females, often to degrading ends that may go both ways. BDSM is weird like that.

Critical thinking is one of the most prominent characteristics the conscious community INSIST you have. And they should stress doing your own research and prefer you disagree with them with facts. But what happens instead is black people look for excuses to deny anything "woke" without doing that research. Insulating themselves with info that reaffirms their own believes and not thinking objectively. Rarely have I seen disagreements with a conscious person be backed by actual facts, but it can/could/does happen. If you, or anyone else, have done or seen so please share this exchange.

Those proven frauds deserve to be canceled, but should not represent the community as a whole. Black people give other groups that much leeway, so should show the same of our own.
 
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For one, damn near everyone on social media qualifies as an "armchair" philosopher now. Including you, me, and most on social media.

Second, the word "wench" is as old as the English language itself.

Black Bed Wench is simply a more descriptive label specific to our possible situations and also serves as the female counterpart to Slave Buck, Buck, Bull, and there may be more. The latters being black male descriptions for sex play by white slave masters, cuckold couples, or white women to this day when fetishizing black men. I personally have been referred to as such without knowing the context involved. And Pornhub or Google should also show this. I've not yet seen with certainty "black bed wench" used, but the syntax fits perfectly. Aligning with the sex play of white males that fetishize sex with black females, often to degrading ends that may go both ways. BDSM is weird like that.

Critical thinking is one of the most prominent characteristics the conscious community INSIST you have. And they should stress doing your own research and prefer you disagree with them with facts. But what happens instead is black people look for excuses to deny anything "woke" without doing that research. Insulating themselves with info that reaffirms their own believes and not thinking objectively. Rarely have I seen disagreements with a conscious person be backed by actual facts, but it can/could/does happen. If you, or anyone else, have done or seen so please share this exchange.

Those proven frauds deserve to be canceled, but should not represent the community as a whole. Black people give other groups that much leeway, so should show the same of our own.
I know what a bed wench is...I'm saying the rise in that word used in casual and internet conversation...I know where it comes from and I can almost always plot your talking points before you even say them. It's not just Tariq it's literally everyone. Insert the name of any pundit with a lot of followers and their followers do the same thing. They use the same buzzwords and talking points cuz they think the proximity to the "smart and logical" person they follow makes them smart and logical also.

My problem ain't with the leaders of these movements. And a lot of them will do that telling their followers to do their own research. The problem is that they dont.
 
They serve a good purpose but they use their viewers for money and that’s what they care about.


Them dudes dont promote anything positive at all. Especially TN.
 
I know what a bed wench is...I'm saying the rise in that word used in casual and internet conversation...I know where it comes from and I can almost always plot your talking points before you even say them. It's not just Tariq it's literally everyone. Insert the name of any pundit with a lot of followers and their followers do the same thing. They use the same buzzwords and talking points cuz they think the proximity to the "smart and logical" person they follow makes them smart and logical also.

My problem ain't with the leaders of these movements. And a lot of them will do that telling their followers to do their own research. The problem is that they dont.

True, that leads to a type of ignorance no one should have to deal with. They don't even need to be a pundit or have a following, just a feeling to wanna be right. So I'd suggest we all at least remain objective when they engage someone that has done the research. Cause I can say a lot of what people perceive to be sheep behavior can apply to people opposing that sheep behavior as well.
 
You see things much more clearer when you unfollow all these so-called black activists on social media (Tariq, Angela Rye, Umar, Shaun king, etc) like I did
 
Are you saying that you believe that there are no non-blacks that care about the welfare of black people?

I mean no non-black group cares about blacks as a group, but unless they are special interest groups, you'd be hard pressed to find any group that cared about something in particular.
I know there's no alliance amongst different groups but black ppl seem to align with different groups in hopes of reciprocation.
What are you actually trying to say? Try using your words.
He's saying a stand up real nigga Nipsey fucked with Tariq
I know what a bed wench is...I'm saying the rise in that word used in casual and internet conversation...I know where it comes from and I can almost always plot your talking points before you even say them. It's not just Tariq it's literally everyone. Insert the name of any pundit with a lot of followers and their followers do the same thing. They use the same buzzwords and talking points cuz they think the proximity to the "smart and logical" person they follow makes them smart and logical also.

My problem ain't with the leaders of these movements. And a lot of them will do that telling their followers to do their own research. The problem is that they dont.
Yea bedwench is Tariqspeak but why would that bother you if you aren't one? Seriously. If i call Kamala Harris a bedwench what's the problem?
 
That bedwench shit and buck shit are weird ass insults to use on each other. Coon works just as fine. But we using sex object insults made specifically from slavery to describe each over political disagreements?
 
That bedwench shit and buck shit are weird ass insults to use on each other. Coon works just as fine. But we using sex object insults made specifically from slavery to describe each over political disagreements?
When you as a black person do dangerous things against black society you deserve to get shunned and if you get called a bed wench or bed buck then it is what it is...
 
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