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HipHop Hasn't Done Anything Good For Black People

Dwayne said:
Saying shit it’s just a job
Or bringing up other forms of music which are irrelevant because rap is black culture in a lot of people eyes
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That's the nuance you refuse to acknowledge. And the other genres were brought up when a question was asked referencing other genres.
 
Dwayne said:
No nuance is needed

Rap, while it has positivity, majority of it is negative

That’s it. Nothing else, no comparison, no nuance is needed.

Shit is simple
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if nuance wasn't needed then you wouldn't enjoy the rap you do nor associate yourself with anything hip hop related. Meaning if you really feel the way you do you'd leave abw. Because in your view it's based around something that's majority negative and why would you wanna support or be associated with that?

You may want to view things as black and white but it's not. Life don't work that way.
 
BlackRain said:
if nuance wasn't needed then you wouldn't enjoy the rap you do nor associate yourself with anything hip hop related. Meaning if you really feel the way you do you'd leave abw. Because in your view it's based around something that's majority negative and why would you wanna support or be associated with that?

You may want to view things as black and white but it's not. Life don't work that way.
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Somebody can know alcohol is bad and still drink from time to time.

Y’all are tryna make the argument that liquor is not harmful because it doesn’t ruin EVERYBODY’s life.
 
Inori said:
:niggaa:

the statement dude just made is nuanced tho 🤣
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The nuance that y’all tryna add is misdirection lol.

Alcohol is actually the perfect analogy. If we say alcohol is harmful for society and kids need to be kept away from it. You can say oh well I drink regularly and I’m fine, I’m not an alcoholic and haven’t killed anybody drunk driving. Also, did you know children’s cough syrup contains alcohol? I rubbed whiskey on my babies gums when he was teething to sooth his pain. Alcohol can’t be all bad!

All of that’s cool. However the NET affect of alcohol is negative.

Hip Hop culture is the liquor of our psyche. Nobody is growing because of hip hop. If you’re growing it’s in spite of it.
 
Stiff said:
The nuance that y’all tryna add is misdirection lol.

Alcohol is actually the perfect analogy. If we say alcohol is harmful for society and kids need to be kept away from it. You can say oh well I drink regularly and I’m fine, I’m not an alcoholic and haven’t killed anybody drunk driving. Also, did you know children’s cough syrup contains alcohol? I rubbed whiskey on my babies gums when he was teething to sooth his pain. Alcohol can’t be all bad!

All of that’s cool. However the NET affect of alcohol is negative.

Hip Hop culture is the liquor of our psyche. Nobody is growing because of hip hop. If you’re growing it’s in spite of it.
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no matter how you try to spin it... there are those that will use and participate with alcohol, food, film, adult entertaiment hip hop responsibly... and those who will abuse it and use it irresponsibly to their own detriment.. which can be applied to any and every fuckin thing on the planet
 
Inori said:
no matter how you try to spin it... there are those that will use and participate with alcohol, food, film, adult entertaiment hip hop responsibly... and those who will abuse it and use it irresponsibly to their own detriment.. which can be applied to any and every fuckin thing on the planet
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You're missing "those who will abuse it and use it irresponsibly to their benefit and to the black communities detriment"

But that's peace.
 
Inori said:
no matter how you try to spin it... there are those that will use and participate with alcohol, food, film, adult entertaiment hip hop responsibly... and those who will abuse it and use it irresponsibly to their own detriment.. which can be applied to any and every fuckin thing on the planet
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So in your mind NOTHING is bad for society because NOTHING ruins everybody in society that encounters it.

Gangbanging
Crack
Porn

There’s always gonna be somebody who it didn’t overtly ruin so it’s all fair game.
 
What was so bad about the crack epidemic?

There were some people who were able to do crack responsibly and still go to work every day.
It created a ton of opportunities for people to make money.
People could choose whether or not they did crack.
Not EVERY part of the crack game was violent
Bad logic
 
Stiff said:
So in your mind NOTHING is bad for society because NOTHING ruins everybody in society that encounters it.

Gangbanging
Crack
Porn

There’s always gonna be somebody who it didn’t overtly ruin so it’s all fair game.
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never said that. Never insinuated it either
 
TTBF said:
You're missing "those who will abuse it and use it irresponsibly to their benefit and to the black communities detriment"

But that's peace.
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I didnt miss it. I feel like i've said that before and it still falls in line with my statement about whats being pushed to the mainstream is detrimental overall.

I guess where we part ways is the tossing the baby out with the bathwater type thinking you seemingly have about it. On some "these folks abusing it so fuck ALL of it"

If that aint how you feel then maybe im misinterpreting what im reading
 
Inori said:
I didnt miss it. I feel like i've said that before and it still falls in line with my statement about whats being pushed to the mainstream is detrimental overall.

I guess where we part ways is the tossing the baby out with the bathwater type thinking you seemingly have about it. On some "these folks abusing it so fuck ALL of it"

If that aint how you feel then maybe im misinterpreting what im reading
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Stop at the bolded. That's all I've been saying.
 
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