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Chick alleged drug raped in the middle of an ATL club...wtf

Nobody is asking for a perfect world yall but saying we can do better about this shit. I really think overall its much more we can do for male and femake victims. Its plenty women who think a man cant be raped by a woman. And plenty niggas act like dude in the video.

Nobody is against being aware of your surroundings but telling a rape victim after the fact what they did wrong aint helping or teaching
 
Fact it, attempting to discuss whether or not the woman holds any fault for another mother fuckers actions is the text book definition of victim blaming.

Attempting to discuss what she could have done better is victim blaming.

The fact that a female cant set her drink down to buckle her shoe for fear of being drugged is some ol bullshit, it is an unfair standard to place on an entire gender when we do not put the same level of effort into males to curtail date raping.

Think back to when you was in school....

Did boys get called out for staring or did the girls get drug to the office and forced to cover up? WHERE WOULD WE BE AS A SOCIETY IF THAT HAD CHANGED TEN YEARS AGO? That aint teaching kids stop, no and dont. Aint even the slightest bit of re-enforcment. Schools dont do it, and for the most part, anerican society as a whole doesnt do it, due to how females are perceived. That aint equality, that is superiority.

Aint hard to psychoanalyse you mother fuckers, we've spent considerable amounts of time talking about ourselves and reacting to current and past events. Yall aint that complicated you just think yall are.
konceptjones said:
You're smarter than this fam.

Nobody is taking the side of rapists. Re-Read the thread, slowly if necessary. I want you to quote where ANYONE sided with these "degenerates and deviants". I already know you can't because the shit never fuckin happened.

We don't have to teach boys the meaning of "stop, no, and don't" because we're already doing that in the same way we're teaching them everything else. If you or your people ain't doin' it, or if you weren't taught yourself then that's y'alls failures as parents but don't put that bullshit on the rest of us.

Ain't nobody looking to punish all women. That's some fuck shit you pulled out of your ass and, truthfully, it needs to stop. You ain't being real about this shit right now dawg and you know it. The only reason niggas believe that some woman hurt them is because they, themselves, were hurt: You're projecting your own troubled, checkered past on other niggas. Cut that shit out.

Nobody is tellin' chicks to cover up or any of that other bullshit. If someone said that in this thread, please point it out 'cause I must have missed it.

All anyone is saying is be aware and diligent about protecting yourself. There are steps you can take so you don't wind up in situations like this.
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Fact is, last thing we should be talking about is her and her actions.

Thread should be about Doxxing the dude.
 
Hellczar said:
Nobody is asking for a perfect world yall but saying we can do better about this shit. I really think overall its much more we can do for male and femake victims. Its plenty women who think a man cant be raped by a woman. And plenty niggas act like dude in the video.

Nobody is against being aware of your surroundings but telling a rape victim after the fact what they did wrong aint helping or teaching
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but it can be a teachable moment.

im not saying rub their faces in it because they dealt with enough trauma.
 
Chi-town B said:
Stop this, people are responsible for themselves not to get blackout drunk at clubs, the way you going is they have no responsibility and should be treated like children.
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Bullshit.

People should be safe to move thru life unmolested.

Security is just that.

You pay 20 bucks to enter a facility the last thing you shoulf have to worry about is getting shot, drugged or diddled.

This is like getting mad at the victims of the vegas shooting for being at that damn concert.

Them folks had the right to let their got damn guard down and relax, just as she did too.

Society sucks.

I'm moving to the mountains.
 
Black_Samson said:
Bullshit.

People should be safe to move thru life unmolested.

Security is just that.

You pay 20 bucks to enter a facility the last thing you shoulf have to worry about is getting shot, drugged or diddled.

This is like getting mad at the victims of the vegas shooting for being at that damn concert.

Them folks had the right to let their got damn guard down and relax, just as she did too.

Society sucks.

I'm moving to the mountains.
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ok.....she not claiming to be a victim...so we can stop bringing up victim blaming.
and you are right...people should be able to put drinks down without having a fuck nigga drug them.

but guess what....as black men....we know what aint fair and what action or preventative action we need to do in order to make it home every night.

the world aint fair.
niggas aint shit.
we cant trust people...anyone.
and in these times....its just that.

shit the moment her tits came out and looked loopy....people shoulda stepped in.
but they didnt.
dude aint shit and the people watching aint shit. thats not saying we still cant warn the ladies to watch these aint shit niggas without someone thinking we places all responsibility on the ladies.
 
Black_Samson said:
Bullshit.

People should be safe to move thru life unmolested.

Security is just that.

You pay 20 bucks to enter a facility the last thing you shoulf have to worry about is getting shot, drugged or diddled.

This is like getting mad at the victims of the vegas shooting for being at that damn concert.

Them folks had the right to let their got damn guard down and relax, just as she did too.

Society sucks.

I'm moving to the mountains.
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They should but we both know it's not like that, it's some sick individuals just waiting to pounce on an intoxicated women. I don't see nothing wrong with a female not getting to fucked up where she becomes a victim. Don't get me wrong, I'm never condoning a dude for taking advantage of the situation, they need a bullet to the back of the head but women gotta be careful in bars and clubs is all we're saying
 
DOS_patos said:
ok.....she not claiming to be a victim...so we can stop bringing up victim blaming.
and you are right...people should be able to put drinks down without having a fuck nigga drug them.

but guess what....as black men....we know what aint fair and what action or preventative action we need to do in order to make it home every night.

the world aint fair.
niggas aint shit.
we cant trust people...anyone.
and in these times....its just that.

shit the moment her tits came out and looked loopy....people shoulda stepped in.
but they didnt.
dude aint shit and the people watching aint shit. thats not saying we still cant warn the ladies to watch these aint shit niggas without someone thinking we places all responsibility on the ladies.
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Thats another thing....


WHERE THE FUCK WAS SECURITY?!?!

That entire club needs to be shut down, and Head of Security needs to ve brought in for questioning, as an inconvenience.
 
BlackRain said:
Folks say those things like it's a certainty to prevent rape though. Like somebody said women need to watch their drinks in the club and don't take drinks from people they don't know. The majority of rapes happen by a person the woman already knows...so what's the solution there? Just don't get to know anybody to prevent the possibility of ever being raped?
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This is a silly line of thinking. No one ever claims that there is some perfect way to avoid all rapes or other bad acts. However, there is a common thread among a lot of these cases that if acknowledged could lead to some escaping the trauma. Me saying that women shouldn't take drinks from men they don't know is not supposed to be some cure for rape. However, it is a good rule of thumb that could counter certain types of attempts. It's like when someone tells you to wash your hands before eating so you don't get sick. Doing that won't stop you from getting cancer, but is that really a good argument for not washing your hands? Is it? Really?

Hellczar said:
Not saying that at all. But if somebody a victim and the first thing you say is "what was you doing to be a victim?" You aint helping shit.
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Who really does that though? People need to understand the difference between internet discussion and what is actually done in response to situations like this. I'm pretty sure no one went up to that chick and said "you should have had panties on" when she said she got raped. I'm pretty sure that never happens in these situations. However, it's completely fair for people reflecting on the situation as a whole to point out what the chick could have done to protect herself just like it's fair for everyone to comment on how the rapist is a piece of shit.

People like you always come along and bash those who point out the lessons learned from the situation. You claim it doesn't help shit. But guess what people still do the shit that gets them in trouble, so maybe if people were allowed to point out those lessons, some of those people that actually listen would avoid making the same mistakes.
 
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It's wild that the "opposing viewpoints" in every damn rape related thread is the same cast of characters.

Actually no it isn't.

Looking forward to the upcoming antics in the Chris Brown rape thread.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Who really does that though? People need to understand the difference between internet discussion and what is actually done in response to situations like this. I'm pretty sure no one went up to that chick and said "you should have had panties on" when she said she got raped. I'm pretty sure that never happens in these situations. However, it's completely fair for people reflecting on the situation as a whole to point out what the chick could have done to protect herself just like it's fair for everyone to comment on how the rapist is a piece of shit.

People like you always come along and bash those who point out the lessons learned from the situation. You claim it doesn't help shit. But guess what people still do the shit that gets them in trouble, so maybe if people were allowed to point out those lessons, some of those people that actually listen would avoid making the same mistakes.
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I think that is part of the Donohue Effect.

Yall might be too young to remember his show, but the talking points remained for at least 3 generations.
 
SneakDZA said:
It's wild that the "opposing viewpoints" in every damn rape related thread is the same cast of characters.

Actually no it isn't.

Looking forward to the upcoming antics in the Chris Brown rape thread.
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Lol i mean yall think people just gonna change their opinions so easily as adults
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I remember the show, but don't know what you're referencing. What exactly is the Donohue Effect?
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Well there was a time when he would bring rape victims on to confront their abusers and what not, and audience members would shout them victims down, blame them for their mishap, and use the same points of alcohol, attire and free spirit-ness as excuses for why they got raped.
 
Apparently we don't need to teach men not to be rapists because we already do that but we need to teach women how not to get raped.

If that shit doesn't sound stupid to you I don't know what to say.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
This is a silly line of thinking. No one ever claims that there is some perfect way to avoid all rapes or other bad acts. However, there is a common thread among a lot of these cases that if acknowledged could lead to some escaping the trauma. Me saying that women shouldn't take drinks from men they don't know is not supposed to be some cure for rape. However, it is a good rule of thumb that could counter certain types of attempts. It's like when someone tells you to wash your hands before eating so you don't get sick. Doing that won't stop you from getting cancer, but is that really a good argument for not washing your hands? Is it? Really?



Who really does that though? People need to understand the difference between internet discussion and what is actually done in response to situations like this. I'm pretty sure no one went up to that chick and said "you should have had panties on" when she said she got raped. I'm pretty sure that never happens in these situations. However, it's completely fair for people reflecting on the situation as a whole to point out what the chick could have done to protect herself just like it's fair for everyone to comment on how the rapist is a piece of shit.

People like you always come along and bash those who point out the lessons learned from the situation. You claim it doesn't help shit. But guess what people still do the shit that gets them in trouble, so maybe if people were allowed to point out those lessons, some of those people that actually listen would avoid making the same mistakes.
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Thing is you can point shit out all day and folks will ve aware girls learn these things early but sometimes people slip
 
Black_Samson said:
Well there was a time when he would bring rape victims on to confront their abusers and what not, and audience members would shout them victims down, blame them for their mishap, and use the same points of alcohol, attire and free spirit-ness as excuses for why they got raped.
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Oh yeah, I remember that. I don't think that's right. However, I do believe it's tricky. I believe it absolutely is rape when a guy purposely uses drugs or alcohol to rob a chick of her faculties so he can take advantage of her. I also think it is rape when a guy takes advantage of a chick that is under the influence and unable to resist. So, no, I don't believe it is valid to blame a female when she is raped under those circumstances. All the blame rests with the rapist. He is the bad guy in that scenario and the females shouldn't be shouted down.

That said, I think it's completely valid to look at those scenarios and point out things that could have possibly been done to protect the victim. No one should be going up to women who were traumatized and saying "you wouldn't have been raped if you weren't drinking." That's fucked up. However, no one should have a problem with people promoting responsible behavior either.

The other issue is that there absolutely are instances where chicks aren't victimized. I'm sorry, I don't think a chick gets to call rape when she has a little alcohol or drugs, has her inhibitions lowered, and chooses to have sex in that state. I get that legally that's still rape, but that's unfair. Yes, alcohol and drugs can affect your decision making, but people who choose to partake in those things know that. If you get drunk, get in a car, and cause and accident, you will be held responsible. Why should it be any different for a person when it comes to sex?
 
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