SeaSnake
OG
I feel like niggas would go full gladiator out here. Like fuck it duel
Active shooter at Texas Robb Elementary school with 19 kids and 2 Adults dead, 18 year old shooter killed
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I feel like niggas would go full gladiator out here. Like fuck it duel
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Bruh, why ask the question if you’re just going to bash everybody’s answers? Just tell us what you think so we can also have the pleasure of bashing your theories, lol.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Phone was in his grandma’s name. She had control of the account.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
It makes a difference; know what you're talking about to have an intelligent discussion about the topic. Otherwise you're just regurgitating talking points you saw somewhere but have no clue what any of it means and you'll never get anywhere.
A couple of things:
#1 - The federal assault rifle ban that lasted 10 years (1994 to 2004) was an outright failure. The general consensus is that is simply didn't stop gun violence using the very weapons it called out. Hell, the Tec9 is specifically called out by name and was the very gun wielded by Dylan Klebold in the Columbine shooting
AK47's are also called out by name, and yet that was every Cali gang bangers favorite rifle in the 90's.
#2 - Do you have any idea where the .223/.556 sits on the totem pole with regards to power/accuracy??? There are rounds FAR more powerful and accurate well beyond what the .556 is capable of and those are typically used for hunting AND are just as readily available. 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 30-06, 204 Ruger, 22-250... the list goes on and on. Lemme show you just one: .556 from an AR-15 vs 45-70 Auto (same thing as a 45-70 Government but specifically for semi-auto rifles). Videos are bookmarked at the relevant parts:
.556 versus a 50lb salt block.
45-70 auto versus a 50lb salt block
So when you're having a discussion about guns and ammo, it helps to be even semi-knowledgeable in order to have a meaningful dialogue.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
It makes a difference; know what you're talking about to have an intelligent discussion about the topic. Otherwise you're just regurgitating talking points you saw somewhere but have no clue what any of it means and you'll never get anywhere.
A couple of things:
#1 - The federal assault rifle ban that lasted 10 years (1994 to 2004) was an outright failure. The general consensus is that is simply didn't stop gun violence using the very weapons it called out. Hell, the Tec9 is specifically called out by name and was the very gun wielded by Dylan Klebold in the Columbine shooting
AK47's are also called out by name, and yet that was every Cali gang bangers favorite rifle in the 90's.
#2 - Do you have any idea where the .223/.556 sits on the totem pole with regards to power/accuracy??? There are rounds FAR more powerful and accurate well beyond what the .556 is capable of and those are typically used for hunting AND are just as readily available. 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 30-06, 204 Ruger, 22-250... the list goes on and on. Lemme show you just one: .556 from an AR-15 vs 45-70 Auto (same thing as a 45-70 Government but specifically for semi-auto rifles). Videos are bookmarked at the relevant parts:
.556 versus a 50lb salt block.
45-70 auto versus a 50lb salt block
So when you're having a discussion about guns and ammo, it helps to be even semi-knowledgeable in order to have a meaningful dialogue.
Nobody is having a discussion about guns and ammo though, we’re having a gun control discussion. You don’t have to know the intricate details about firearms to know what results they bring.
And the ban did work, but you’re looking for a 100% success rate to claim it didn’t work. If it didn’t work, why did mass shootings triple after it was lifted? That’s an actual fact that’s not disputed by many by the way.
So let’s not ban assault weapons because there will still be 1 mass shooting instead of 10? That math doesn’t math.
Marc123
You got it dude!
cac worked at wendys too. Bitch shoulda jus got himself a half priced baconater, bought sum pussy n took a nap.
foh w this bull shit
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Because it’s nightly unlikely. But you said that more than likely happen
I don’t see it at all. Not even a little bit
Eyerone
(i·ro·ny)
you make an interesting point lol
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
The ban didn't lower gun violence overall from the very guns it banned.
The country wasn't inundated with mass shootings before the ban took place; it wasn't really a "thing, if you will. We had some, but not like we've had in recent years. On top of that, there's a mix of handguns and rifles used in mass shootings but the only focus as of late has been AR-15's. In fact, when the data is compiled and analyzed, more handguns are used in mass shootings than rifles of any type and shotguns combined.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Bruh, how do you think he got the money? Lol.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
It wasn’t inundated before, but it damn sure has been since.
Is a ban or raise in the minimum age not worth a try at least? Then if mass shootings stay at the same rate or higher we can then say, it’s not assault rifles? That’s all I’m saying, but some people are so in love with their weapons they won’t even allow it to be considered.
Black_Samson
OG
All this confusion due to a few pins and springs.
crazy.
crazy.
Allah_U_Akbar
New Member
Yeah, I had to do a double take on that one…
California gun laws are working?????
Riiiiiight.
SeaSnake
OG
It makes a difference; know what you're talking about to have an intelligent discussion about the topic. Otherwise you're just regurgitating talking points you saw somewhere but have no clue what any of it means and you'll never get anywhere.
A couple of things:
#1 - The federal assault rifle ban that lasted 10 years (1994 to 2004) was an outright failure. The general consensus is that is simply didn't stop gun violence using the very weapons it called out. Hell, the Tec9 is specifically called out by name and was the very gun wielded by Dylan Klebold in the Columbine shooting
AK47's are also called out by name, and yet that was every Cali gang bangers favorite rifle in the 90's.
#2 - Do you have any idea where the .223/.556 sits on the totem pole with regards to power/accuracy??? There are rounds FAR more powerful and accurate well beyond what the .556 is capable of and those are typically used for hunting AND are just as readily available. 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 30-06, 204 Ruger, 22-250... the list goes on and on. Lemme show you just one: .556 from an AR-15 vs 45-70 Auto (same thing as a 45-70 Government but specifically for semi-auto rifles). Videos are bookmarked at the relevant parts:
.556 versus a 50lb salt block.
45-70 auto versus a 50lb salt block
So when you're having a discussion about guns and ammo, it helps to be even semi-knowledgeable in order to have a meaningful dialogue.
nobody cares man save it for the gun thread. If we talking about gun control wyf do it matter the caliber or where it’s made etc
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
The average age of mass shooters is 33 so what do you stop when you raise the minimum age to 21? Not much.
Elliott Rodger was 22 when he went on his rampage. His weapon of choice? Aside from the knife he used to kill his first three victims with, a 9mm handgun, legally purchased because he was over 21. Nothing would have been stopped.
Seung-Hui Cho was 23 when he shot up Virginia Tech. His weapons of choice? A .22LR and 9mm handguns. He bought them legally, even passing a background check twice (he bought them on separate occasions). Again, nothing would have been stopped.
Adam Lanza was 20 when he shot up Sandy Hook Elementary. His weapons? An AR-15, 10mm handgun, and a 9mm handgun (this is not including the .22lr rifle he killed his mother with or the 12ga cops found in his car). The only gun he was legally allowed to possess was the rifle, the other two he wasn't because he was underage but that didn't stop anything. The only thing that should have been stopped would have been the killings using those pistols.
The thing that most folks are missing from all of this: Nearly every mass shooter in the last 20-25 years had mental issues and some were even reported to the police on more than one occasion. The Uvalde shooter? He used to cut himself (even slashing his own face) and threatened to rape chicks and kill muhfuckas.
^^^ That's the real problem. Guns don't kill anyone without a person willing to use it in that manner. These crazy ass dudes gettin' guns is the problem, not the guns themselves. Wanna stop mass shootings? Deal with the mental health crisis in this country and I'd put folding money you'll see a drastic reduction in this type of shit. In the meantime, figure out a way to flag dudes like this to keep them from legally buying guns.
Rubato
it only matters to us
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
It matter because of the rhetoric thrown about that is either only partially true our outright false. You can't have meaningful dialogue when your talking points are based in fiction or outright fictitious.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
But it's the only solid way to stop this kind of thing from happening. All these dudes were batshit insane and in most cases people knew about it. The Buffalo shooter was actually-factually referred for psychological treatment by the police 'cause he threatened to commit a murder-suicide and they were made aware of it.
In almost every case there were warning signs that people willfully ignored and them dudes got guns and killed people. THAT, fam, is where we stop this at, not "banning guns". Nah, ban crazy muhfuckas from getting guns.