Where they considered a stretch 4 at the time? Fuck no that term came with KG and dirk. Mentioning guys 6’6 and under that barely shot 3’s ain’t moving meWhat does height have to do with it? Did those niggas play the 4 or not?
Not 100% but I’m saying guys between 6’10+ where were they placed before KG came through?
Did the term stretch 4 exist before KG and Dirk yes or no? Mentioning 5 niggaz that weren’t technically a stretch 4’s cuz they shot a few jumpers is some bullshitThis looking like one of those convos where a person is proven wrong multiple times but have chosen this the hill their willing to die on even though they wrong.
I’m no signing the fact that you said they didn’t pioneer anything when I’m giving you my reason why. How many 7 footers were playing on the perimeter before KG and Dirk
Did the term stretch 4 exist before KG and Dirk yes or no? Mentioning 5 niggaz that weren’t technically a stretch 4’s cuz they shot a few jumpers is some bullshit
No YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. I didn’t say everyone big played in the paint I’ve listed the players KG influenced and who created the term stretch 4. We’re not talking about centers that can pass, KG PIONEERED THE STRETCH 4 nobody called themselves that no matter who front court player you bring upSabonis, Divac off the top of my head but lemme guess you gonna move the goal posts back in the other direction now and tell me they centers so they don't qualify.
Shut the fuck up man.
No YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP. I didn’t say everyone big played in the paint I’ve listed the players KG influenced and who created the term stretch 4. We’re not talking about centers that can pass, KG PIONEERED THE STRETCH 4 nobody called themselves that no matter who front court player you bring up
So who was consistent a stretch 4 outside of cliff Robinson? Niggaz mentioning Barkley like he didn’t have a 5 second back to the basket rule named after himDid America exist before Columbus "discovered" it?
Think about what you saying for real. Just cause the term "stretch 4" wasn't used doesn't mean that type of player didn't exist already.
They could shoot but why bring centers into a stretch 4 convo?You think sabonis and Divac were just centers who could pass well?
Say less man.
They could shoot but why bring centers into a stretch 4 convo?
It’s not moving goal post it’s a genuine question, YOU couldn’t think of any power forwards that’s legit stretch 4’s so you had to bring up 2 foreign big men because you KNOW there weren’t a lot of big men shooting jumpersYou brought up 7footers trying to move the goal post and now you're proceeding to try and move them back like I said you would.
You should just stop replying at this point.
Not at all I disagree with y’all but I don’t need to get disrespectful like u doUnbelievable.
You're probably at home yelling at the screen too.
Lmao y’all can think Barkley was a stretch 4 all u want man he wouldn’t even call himself that , it started and thrived with KG I have u a list of guys he influencedDuring the 1995 Western Conference semifinals, Houston Rockets Coach Rudy Tomjanovich had never heard the term “stretch-4,” because it had not entered the basketball vernacular. The phrase “pace and space” did not exist. Tomjanovich only sought a means to guard Phoenix Suns forward Charles Barkley without double-teaming him, to prevent passes to open three-point shooters. And so Tomjanovich tried something new. He played usual small forward Robert Horry at power forward.
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Yeah y’all were calling em that back then u got itRockets Legends Matt Bullard and Robert Horry were essentially stretch 4s for us