Breaking News 7 dead, 41 hospitalized in mass shooting at Highland Park Fourth of July parade, shooter being sought

[konceptjones]

That is pretty much all guns except for revolvers with the modifications that people can do at home on a basic semi-auto.

You ain't even gotta modify them though, just get the extended magazines. A 9mm Glock with a 50 round drum is a rather capable killing machine.

 

[Inori]

bruh

that fuckin lunatic don't gotta wait & can use a 3D printer to make guns




so now what?

if you think a background check will stop that, I got sum beachfront property in Idaho you might be intrested in as well

I'm well aware.

So because it's difficult do nothing at all?

I dont accept that

 

[The Mad Titan]

I’m not even going to front, I am glad you had it in your situation. If I lived in a situation where WS rolled up on my family all willy nilly I’d have one too. I’m tooled up for my situation though.

You only needed it though because they might have had it. If it wasn’t so easy to get them, they wouldn’t have had it and you wouldn’t have needed it. It’s almost like people want to live in a situation where they need it. It doesn’t have to be that way.

And I still don’t think people need 10 guns and 1000’s of rounds of ammo. There is no scenario other than criminal activity or an apocalyptic scenario where you need all of that.

When I went back and looked at the footage and saw how he ran up on my daughter I got pissed off all over again. She was paralyzed with fear. It was a teachable moment for her and I let her know to get away from a situation like that asap.

They have been having theirs, and always will have theirs. Whether they get them legally or not, white ppl, good ones or bad ones are not letting go of their guns. If laws are even tougher, those same laws will hit us as black people harder than them. Just with any other law. When FL enacted their red flag, first person they arrested and confiscated firearms from was a black man. All those crazy ass gun toting white Floridians tho, but the first that got got was a brother

 

[SeaSnake]

I also mentioned those threatening the safety of the ppl who wanted to be free and the weak of heart( who would likely go snitch). A lot of us wouldn't be here if our ancestors and even as recent as our GrandParents had some of yalls stance on guns.

But see I feel like you think the stance of any gun control at all is a negative for black people

 

[TheNightKing]

Let’s get this straight too. Nobody saying don’t be armed at all. At least I’m not.

What does need to happen though is raising the minimum age to purchase any firearm.

Very, very strict background checks at the federal level so that it’s consistent across the country.

Mandatory waiting periods at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

Mandatory red flag laws at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

If not an outright ban on high powered rifles, at least mag capacity limits and limits on ammo purchases. This way someone can’t kill and/or maim dozens of people in minutes. If you want to shoot at a range, have the range supply the ammo for use on site only.

I don’t think none of this would hamper anyone’s ability to protect themselves and their families. But what I always hear from pro 2A people is that you can’t have some or all parts of this.

And remember, the goal isn’t 100% reduction, but less frequency and fewer deaths.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I get ppl being angry, shit I am too. But it's misplaced.

We have a government that would not tolerate this shit from any other demographic. They'd hunt down and terminate any non white threat that was doing this. All kinds of resources and special task forces would be created to monitor and neutralize them. But because it's other whites they do nothing but play on the emotions of the ppl and keep us arguing with each other.

Meanwhile, their kids attend secured school buildings, with well trained and armed men and women and they live in secured communities protected by the same. But when it's us out here, it's, oh we need to pass laws to protect yall. Not one politician will dismiss their armed security or downgrade the safety protocols at their children's school to rely on legislation.

 

[The Mad Titan]

But see I feel like you think the stance of any gun control at all is a negative for black people

It is bro. Anytime they make stuff illegal or crackdowns, they enforce it more on us. Every time

 

[konceptjones]

Whoopty fuckin doo. You gotta go through another step or two or have to wait a little longer to ensure youre not a fuckin lunatic thats gonna kill or maim a bunch of people. You'll still get your guns.. You arent getting fucked over

If you having to wait an extra couple days or get a background check means some loon wont be able to get a gun and kill a bunch of random innocent people.. that aint worth it?

Why do y'all just love ignoring the fact that federal background checks been in place for over 20 years? On top of that, the new gun law adds more scrutiny of juvenile records for buyers from 18-21 years old. If there's something on your juvenile record, the process can take up to 7 days before you can even touch a gun if your juvie record doesn't disqualify you. Add to this they're forcing more sellers to get an FFL (which means more background checks) and cracking down on straw buyers and the process is simply more difficult than it already was.

 

[BRIAN B.]

I'm well aware.

So because it's difficult do nothing at all?

I dont accept that

no

but the shit yall want to be done relies on them crackas playin fair


& they've been at the helm of this country for a few centuries

when have they ever played fair?

 

[Eyerone]

I’m not even going to front, I am glad you had it in your situation. If I lived in a situation where WS rolled up on my family all willy nilly I’d have one too. I’m tooled up for my situation though.

You only needed it though because they might have had it. If it wasn’t so easy to get them, they wouldn’t have had it and you wouldn’t have needed it. It’s almost like people want to live in a situation where they need it. It doesn’t have to be that way.

And I still don’t think people need 10 guns and 1000’s of rounds of ammo. There is no scenario other than criminal activity or an apocalyptic scenario where you need all of that.

I don’t think car companies should make cars that go over 80mph but here we are. I mean there’s no where you can drive over 80 but there’s cars that are made with crazy horsepower and can top out over 120 mph. There is no scenario other than criminal activity where you need all of that.

 

[BRIAN B.]

Let’s get this straight too. Nobody saying don’t be armed at all. At least I’m not.

What does need to happen though is raising the minimum age to purchase any firearm.

Very, very strict background checks at the federal level so that it’s consistent across the country.

Mandatory waiting periods at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

Mandatory red flag laws at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

If not an outright ban on high powered rifles, at least mag capacity limits and limits on ammo purchases. This way someone can’t kill and/or maim dozens of people in minutes. If you want to shoot at a range, have the range supply the ammo for use on site only.

I don’t think none of this would hamper anyone’s ability to protect themselves and their families. But what I always hear from pro 2A people is that you can’t have some or all parts of this.

And remember, the goal isn’t 100% reduction, but less frequency and fewer deaths.

ok

& who's the majority in the positions of power to get these things done?



better hope they play fair




yall actin like if niggas (en masse) went out & protested to change gun laws them crackas gon be like


"you know what? those nig-nogs are right, let's make a change!!"

 

[BlackRain]

Yup and there's always a bunch of ppl who knew this person was potentially deadly yet nobody said anything because these are whites doing this. If black ppl were posting anything about even thinking of committing shit like said black person would get a nice visit from them boys.

That's the real issue. The failure of this country to admit we have a crime that is overwhelmingly committed by a certain profile and we need to focus on the people and places where those ideologies are fostered, instead we blame the guns.

They could EASILY shutdown all of these WS, hate spewing sites or arrest these dangerous individuals because they know damn well what they are posting. I mean shit they go hit them rappers and anybody else dumb enough to self snitch on the net, long as they black. But because they are white, they let it happen. The anger should be at them allowing white supremacy

I agree that certain forms of speech shouldn't be allowed in the public sphere...but you're always gonna have folks who are 100% free speech all or nothing and don't see any nuance or middle ground. And those are the people who will be against shutting down those types of sights under the guise of "if they can tell then what not to say then what's stopping them from limiting your speech"

 

[konceptjones]

I’m only as armed as I need to be. Scared is having a ton of weapons and ammo that you won’t ever practically use.

I have a 9mm and I’m about to get a shotgun. I don’t need anything more than that to protect my family. I guess if you got bloods and crips outside your door every night you might need a bit more, but even if AR’s were illegal I’d venture to say you’d get some illegal shit. Not everybody’s situation is as extreme as yours though.

If AR's were illegal I'd still have my 9mm and .22 magnum carbines, both of which I'm crazy accurate with. I have an assortment of mags for the 9mm from the standard 17 round joint up to a 50 round drum. The standard magazine for the 22 mag is 30 rounds, same as an AR, and I have 6 of them at the moment.

Additionally, if AR's were illegal, I'd probably have something shooting 308 Winchester/7.62x51mm; a real rifle caliber.

 

[konceptjones]

Let’s get this straight too. Nobody saying don’t be armed at all. At least I’m not.

What does need to happen though is raising the minimum age to purchase any firearm.

Very, very strict background checks at the federal level so that it’s consistent across the country.

Mandatory waiting periods at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

Mandatory red flag laws at the federal level so it’s consistent across the board.

If not an outright ban on high powered rifles, at least mag capacity limits and limits on ammo purchases. This way someone can’t kill and/or maim dozens of people in minutes. If you want to shoot at a range, have the range supply the ammo for use on site only.

I don’t think none of this would hamper anyone’s ability to protect themselves and their families. But what I always hear from pro 2A people is that you can’t have some or all parts of this.

And remember, the goal isn’t 100% reduction, but less frequency and fewer deaths.

Jesus El Slavadore Christos!!!!

WE ALREADY HAVE STRICT FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECKS!!!!!

 

[The Mad Titan]

I agree that certain forms of speech shouldn't be allowed in the public sphere...but you're always gonna have folks who are 100% free speech all or nothing and don't see any nuance or middle ground. And those are the people who will be against shutting down those types of sights under the guise of "if they can tell then what not to say then what's stopping them from limiting your speech"

Yeah there's always people who have a misunderstanding of "free speech". I'm all for free speech up until the point where it could reasonably encourage hurt or harm, i.e. not being able to falsely scream fire in a crowded movie theatre.

There needs to be resources that actually take action on those sites. They're for sure being monitored, whole net is. But they don't act on certain groups and sectors.

 

[TheNightKing]

If AR's were illegal I'd still have my 9mm and .22 magnum carbines, both of which I'm crazy accurate with. I have an assortment of mags for the 9mm from the standard 17 round joint up to a 50 round drum. The standard magazine for the 22 mag is 30 rounds, same as an AR, and I have 6 of them at the moment.

Additionally, if AR's were illegal, I'd probably have something shooting 308 Winchester/7.62x51mm; a real rifle caliber.

So you’d be cool without the AR’s then. Cool.

 

[TheNightKing]

Jesus El Slavadore Christos!!!!

WE ALREADY HAVE STRICT FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECKS!!!!!

Are there still private sale and gun show loopholes? Then the checks aren’t strict enough.

 

[konceptjones]

I don’t think car companies should make cars that go over 80mph but here we are. I mean there’s no where you can drive over 80 but there’s cars that are made with crazy horsepower and can top out over 200 mph. There is no scenario other than criminal activity where you need all of that.

Fixed that for you.

Even the basic Charger GT and RT can hit a buck fiddy. The absolute fastest Charger you can walk into a dealership and buy will hit 203 mph straight off the showroom floor.

 

[TheNightKing]

Yeah there's always people who have a misunderstanding of "free speech". I'm all for free speech up until the point where it could reasonably encourage hurt or harm, i.e. not being able to falsely scream fire in a crowded movie theatre.

There needs to be resources that actually take action on those sites. They're for sure being monitored, whole net is. But they don't act on certain groups and sectors.

Agree. I feel like no right is absolute. If any part of a right impedes on a person’s life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, there must be a limit placed on that right.

 

[BlackRain]

Yeah there's always people who have a misunderstanding of "free speech". I'm all for free speech up until the point where it could reasonably encourage hurt or harm, i.e. not being able to falsely scream fire in a crowded movie theatre.

There needs to be resources that actually take action on those sites. They're for sure being monitored, whole net is. But they don't act on certain groups and sectors.

That's how I view it too. I just know that's going to he a rebuttal from those that either don't want those sites monitored like that or those who don't see the middle ground between a free for all vs not allowing shit that van and has been proven to lead to harm