Joe Rogan does damage control over his racist comments. Spotify deletes episodes of his podcast w/ racist comments & racist guests

Earth 2 Superman said:
believing in Bigfoot isnt gonna get you or vulnerable ppl around you killed or sick.

Its not censorship like the tipper gore shit. Its more complicated than that. You ask the question, should someone with influence and a considerable audience be allowed to spread wrong information to the masses?

i think this discussion is fine. if you argue that Rogan should stay on, then you should have no problem with a musician saying he wants his shit off Spotify. That musician has just as many right as Rogan does. Doesnt matter if Neil yuong or Joni mitchell listened to Rogan or not. Saying "I dont like his stupid face and I want my music off the same service as him" should be acceptable.
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You're calling for someone to be silenced because they have a different opinion on an issue. And YES people with influence can have different viewpoints than you. Cable news spews bullshit 24/7, so what are we going on about?

The term "misinformation" is very subjective. I would be suspended on Twitter last year for saying that covid likely came from a lab. See how that works? Fact checkers are just political operatives.

And if artists want their music off then that's fine. The problem is when they become hypocrites and demand another personality get pulled.
 
Allah_U_Akbar said:
That boggles my mind.

Him comparing a black neighborhood to planet of the apes is 10 times worse than him having a goofy conversation about black people‘s skin not literally being the color black and white people‘s skin not literally being the color white.

But, people in here seem to be more upset about the latter.
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Nigga please niggas on abw were disgusted by Joe Rohan when he said that. Nobody was being selective
 
BlackRain said:
Regardless of how you feel about the shit Rodgers has said...going on a weekly radio show that is one of the most popular in the country definitely qualifies as advocating your message to the masses.
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What's wrong with Rodgers going on a radio show to express his reasonings for not getting vaccinated? What's wrong with Kyrie giving his reasons?

Better yet, who decided only one view point is allowed? The same people who laughed at covid in the beginning, then yelled at anyone who said it came from a lab, are now puffing their chests out about misinformation
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
What's wrong with Rodgers going on a radio show to express his reasonings for not getting vaccinated? What's wrong with Kyrie giving his reasons?

Better yet, who decided only one view point is allowed? The same people who laughed at covid in the beginning, then yelled at anyone who said it came from a lab, are now puffing their chests out about misinformation
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Who is saying any of that is wrong? Just as they're allowed to say their opinions people are also allowed to voice theirs that disagree with them. As much as you seem to be bothered at this idea of censorship of people who somehow have the ability to speak to an audience of millions every week, you also are being critical of those who voice their opinions that differ from them. That doesn't make sense.
 
BlackRain said:
There's alot of people who do actually listen to Rogan and others for advice on how they should approach certain life decisions, what views to take on etc. That's not even specific to covid. There's a reason some of these podcasters make so much money. People legit look to them as guides on what to do
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I know he's pretty heavy on promoting a healthy and productive lifestyle as well. So if said viewers are following him like Jesus then covid probably isn't even high risk for them.

And the rest just don't have to listen.

I mean there's more than one way to look at it.
 
You know the craziest part of all of this. That he has a large audience that maybe believes in this shit and he gets paid alotta money for saying this
 
ChicagoFigure said:
I know he's pretty heavy on promoting a healthy and productive lifestyle as well. So if said viewers are following him like Jesus then covid probably isn't even high risk for them.

And the rest just don't have to listen.

I mean there's more than one way to look at it.
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You're right...for me I take the "anyone who listens to this racist for any type of advice is someone I probably shouldn't consider smart" way of looking at Rogan and those who defend him.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
My issue is who cares what your issues are? If you don't want to hear it, don't listen.

But more than that, when did Rodgers advocate to the masses? People right now want ti impose their views on others, fuck that. I'm not vaxxed, had covid, and I'm fine. If I was old I would have probably got it, but I don't need that shit, and it's my own business.

When did we become pro censorship, and about telling others what to put in their bodies? Meanwhile obesity is going crazy and this country and the same people get upset if you call out fat people.
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I agree with the contradiction going on.

But I also feel ppl who saying that those ppl that are antivaxx or whatever aren't only harming themselves but potentially harming others.

How can u really argue that?
 
BlackRain said:
Who is saying any of that is wrong? Just as they're allowed to say their opinions people are also allowed to voice theirs that disagree with them. As much as you seem to be bothered at this idea of censorship of people who somehow have the ability to speak to an audience of millions every week, you also are being critical of those who voice their opinions that differ from them. That doesn't make sense.
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I have no problem with people pulling their music. I have a problem when they demand other things be pulled "or else"
 
BlackRain said:
You're right...for me I take the "anyone who listens to this racist for any type of advice is someone I probably shouldn't consider smart" way of looking at Rogan and those who defend him.
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And that's completely your right to hold that view and no one should try n stop u cuz it don't make them feel good
 
ChicagoFigure said:
I agree with the contradiction going on.

But I also feel ppl who saying that those ppl that are antivaxx or whatever aren't only harming themselves but potentially harming others.

How can u really argue that?
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I think anyone who gets all their information from a podcast, news show, social media platform, is potentially harming themselves. But this is a free country, so I'm not sure why others feel they can dictate what's consumed. I eman obese people are harming themselves. Trannies harm themselves with their issues. Smokers harm themselves.

I brought up the Tipper Gore analogy earlier because those of us old enough to remember, know the argument was that rap music is harmful, therefore should be banned. Same argument against Chappelle at Netflix with trans people. I can turn on the news and see War being pushed hard right now, but that's ok. Bill Mahr's first show got canned largely because of his opposition to the Iraq War, think about that. And that war had 70%+ public support due to the coverage it got, and the ways those who question WMDs in Iraq were considered "spreading misinformation".

I don't even listen to Rogan's podcast, I'm just bothered that people are quick to give up their freedom of speech, and medical rights on a dime these days.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
I think anyone who gets all their information from a podcast, news show, social media platform, is potentially harming themselves. But this is a free country, so I'm not sure why others feel they can dictate what's consumed. I eman obese people are harming themselves. Trannies harm themselves with their issues. Smokers harm themselves.

I brought up the Tipper Gore analogy earlier because those of us old enough to remember, know the argument was that rap music is harmful, therefore should be banned. Same argument against Chappelle at Netflix with trans people. I can turn on the news and see War being pushed hard right now, but that's ok. Bill Mahr's first show got canned largely because of his opposition to the Iraq War, think about that. And that war had 70%+ public support due to the coverage it got, and the ways those who question WMDs in Iraq were considered "spreading misinformation".

I don't even listen to Rogan's podcast, I'm just bothered that people are quick to give up their freedom of speech, and medical rights on a dime these days.
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Cosign except no one is willing to give up their own freedom of speech. Just the freedom of speech to those they disagree with. Besides that they 100% pro speech.

There should ALWAYS be more discussion and debate not less.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
Cosign except no one is willing to give up their own freedom of speech. Just the freedom of speech to those they disagree with. Besides that they 100% pro speech.

There should ALWAYS be more discussion and debate not less.
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People want freedom of speech without consequences or reactions they don't like. That's the main problem. Also not everything needs more discussion. Some shit really is just cut and dry and doesn't exist in a gray area of "well maybe it could be right under this scenario"
 
BlackRain said:
People want freedom of speech without consequences or reactions they don't like. That's the main problem. Also not everything needs more discussion. Some shit really is just cut and dry and doesn't exist in a gray area of "well maybe it could be right under this scenario"
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U have to have a subscription to Rogan and willingly listen to his 3+ hr pods to get the message. It takes much less work from mainstream news to force their agendas down your throat.

Most ppl here say they wouldn't even know what's going on w Rogan if not for this thread.

Fake outrage imo
 
ChicagoFigure said:
U have to have a subscription to Rogan and willingly listen to his 3+ hr pods to get the message. It takes much less work from mainstream news to force their agendas down your throat.

Most ppl here say they wouldn't even know what's going on w Rogan if not for this thread.

Fake outrage imo
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The outrage isn't fake because to say that people are faking outrage or disinterested in a show by a guy with his history and some of the shit he's said is to say that theres nothing wrong with what hes said and thats just flat out wrong. If you wanna take the being mad about his comments about Black people over the years is "fake outrage" route that's a big hill to die on just to try and push that idea.
 
BlackRain said:
The outrage isn't fake because to say that people are faking outrage or disinterested in a show by a guy with his history and some of the shit he's said is to say that theres nothing wrong with what hes said and thats just flat out wrong. If you wanna take the being mad about his comments about Black people over the years is "fake outrage" route that's a big hill to die on just to try and push that idea.
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Lol u tryna flip this shit into something else I see. Not what I was saying at all. I can think what someone is saying is wrong and not be outraged by it. I'm sure you're capable of the same.

If we have it your way the lab leak hypothesis is still a conspiracy theory that all who push it must be silenced.

And bc they didn't shut up and bc trump left office it's now "plausible and considering circumstancial evidence more likely" it's now okay and no one is being asked to be deplatformed or demonetized. And the science regarding that theory has never changed, just peoples attitudes toward it, and the politics.

There's plenty of gray area. There's more gray area than not.
 
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