What Requirements Should People Need To Purchase A Gun?

Yep indoor ranges are generally brass only… I really only use outdoor ranges personally.. less bs typically where steel ammo is allowed and shooting unsuppressed SBR isn’t a asshole move. Now shoot that SBR unsuppressed in a indoor range.. you’re a asshole 😂.
 
#1hiphopjunki3 said:
I can understand the price difference, but I’m good on that. 😂

Plus a lot of the indoor ranges I’ve been to in San Antonio and Austin stated brass only. Maybe the outdoor ones out here are different though. Maybe I could find a few if I looked more that wouldn’t mind.
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I haven't been able to find an indoor one that allows steel in my area

There's a free county range in NC that allowed everything and it was indoors. They allowed a lot except for fmj I think
 
Yep the outdoor range I had a membership back home was just no green tips.. last indoor range locally I went to the instructor was all up in your shit… you gotta run your arm through the pistol brace blah blah and can’t shoulder shoot it.. then you have to purchase there overpriced ammo then the jacked up their FFL transfer fees.. I use to buy lowers by the 3 since you could file all 3 on one paper and pay one fee and they was cool with me doing that for awhile (even bought their bs membership to lower it) then suddenly bam.. its per lower. Thats enough for me to not go back lol they don’t do that shit at the outdoor one just occasionally stop by and chat and see what your shooting and that you have your bolt locked back w/o a bullet in the chamber… but it be hot most of the year so you gotta deal with that 🤔.
 
These shootings always lead to overreaction.

This mental health check for example. That sounds cool and all, but let's get into the details.

What mental illnesses get excluded? Like 10% of the country is on antidepressants. What about people with anger issues?

How many mental disorders you testing for? Who has to pay for all these tests, licenses, safes, etc? Should gun ownership laws discriminate against those with less money?

And if someone has sought out help for their mental health you want the government tracking who they live with and sending agents to examine their home?
 
Bow to Royalty said:
These shootings always lead to overreaction.

This mental health check for example. That sounds cool and all, but let's get into the details.

What mental illnesses get excluded? Like 10% of the country is on antidepressants. What about people with anger issues?

How many mental disorders you testing for? Who has to pay for all these tests, licenses, safes, etc? Should gun ownership laws discriminate against those with less money?

And if someone has sought out help for their mental health you want the government tracking who they live with and sending agents to examine their home?
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Mental health also covers so much more

We have a thread with a bunch of good ideas to help improve someones mental health and a lot of suggestions aren't even drug or medical related. Just things that put peoples mind at ease throughout the day
 
I don’t there’s a simple way of fixing it, without evading someones privacy, you give a inch they will take a mile. I do think they need to do better especially when it comes to monitoring threats made via social media. I think of a lot of these would be shooters go to social media to vent and seek attention before they carry out these crimes. I think if local police do better taking these threats seriously maybe some can be avoided.
 
RandomOne said:
Mental health also covers so much more

We have a thread with a bunch of good ideas to help improve someones mental health and a lot of suggestions aren't even drug or medical related. Just things that put peoples mind at ease throughout the day
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I hear you, but with the mental health evaluation what's a disqualifying condition?
 
These disqualify someone from owning or possessing a firearm federally

Felony Conviction: A person convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

Fugitive from Justice: An individual who has fled to avoid prosecution or to give testimony in a criminal proceeding.

Unlawful User or Addicted to a Controlled Substance: This includes individuals who use illegal drugs or are addicted to any controlled substance, including marijuana, even if its use is legal at the state level.

Mentally unfit: Are a danger to themselves or others as a result of a mental condition, illness, or subnormal intelligence. Lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs or contract, Are found to be insane by a court in a criminal case, Are found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility in a criminal case.

Illegal Alien: An alien who is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.

Dishonorable Discharge: A person who has been discharged from the U.S. Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions.

Renounced U.S. Citizenship: A person who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced their citizenship.

Active Domestic Violence Restraining Order: A person who is subject to a court order that restrains them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or their child.

Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence: A person who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

Under Indictment for a Felony: A person who is under indictment or information for a felony (a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year). This is a temporary prohibition, and the person can possess a firearm if the charges are dropped or they are acquitted.
 
Matt123 said:
I don’t there’s a simple way of fixing it, without evading someones privacy, you give a inch they will take a mile. I do think they need to do better especially when it comes to monitoring threats made via social media. I think of a lot of these would be shooters go to social media to vent and seek attention before they carry out these crimes. I think if local police do better taking these threats seriously maybe some can be avoided.
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The FBI and DHS both monitor social media for threats like the one this dude made. How was it that neither one picked up on him is beyond me.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
These shootings always lead to overreaction.

This mental health check for example. That sounds cool and all, but let's get into the details.

What mental illnesses get excluded? Like 10% of the country is on antidepressants. What about people with anger issues?

How many mental disorders you testing for? Who has to pay for all these tests, licenses, safes, etc? Should gun ownership laws discriminate against those with less money?

And if someone has sought out help for their mental health you want the government tracking who they live with and sending agents to examine their home?
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The 10% on anti-depressants should definitely need a hold on buying firearms, imo.

But my bigger issue is the "effectiveness" on those drugs in the first place. We need a good deep dive into whether they truly work.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
The 10% on anti-depressants should definitely need a hold on buying firearms, imo.

But my bigger issue is the "effectiveness" on those drugs in the first place. We need a good deep dive into whether they truly work
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Mask one problem while causing several others… yay modern medicines pill game.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
The 10% on anti-depressants should definitely need a hold on buying firearms, imo.

But my bigger issue is the "effectiveness" on those drugs in the first place. We need a good deep dive into whether they truly work.
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What actually worked was L-Tryptophan, an amino acid. That's what was prescribed for depression for years. "They" got their congressional flunkies to get it banned so Prozac had no competition when it was introduced to the market and we ain't been the same ever since.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
The 10% on anti-depressants should definitely need a hold on buying firearms, imo.

But my bigger issue is the "effectiveness" on those drugs in the first place. We need a good deep dive into whether they truly work.
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Regular ass people be on antidepressants. They don't have to be contemplating suicide or anything. So you'd prefer a setup that will put people in the situation of getting help or keeping what they use for personal/home defense?

I think the system we have is mostly fine. Just gotta buckle down and properly enforce. Bad shit's still gonna happen, but that's just unfortunately how it is.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
Regular ass people be on antidepressants. They don't have to be contemplating suicide or anything. So you'd prefer a setup that will put people in the situation of getting help or keeping what they use for personal/home defense?

I think the system we have is mostly fine. Just gotta buckle down and properly enforce. Bad shit's still gonna happen, but that's just unfortunately how it is.
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One of the side effects of antidepressants is suicidal thoughts. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it definitely can happen. Same for anti-psychotics.
 
People have different reactions to different anti depressants which is probably why there are so many

Like I know people who have taken prozac and it worked for them and I know people who took something else and it worked for them

Some doctors are also too quick to go to prescribing meds and some are just too reluctant
 
konceptjones said:
One of the side effects of antidepressants is suicidal thoughts. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it definitely can happen. Same for anti-psychotics.
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Ya, I understand that. But to ban all people on them from owning a gun because some may have that side effect is unnecessary. And it's not just antidepressants. Birth control and Adderall can lead to depression too. So if that being a potential side effect disqualifies people, then the list is getting longer and longer.
 
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