What Requirements Should People Need To Purchase A Gun?

5th Letter said:
Background check, mental health evaluation
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Mad that this even needs mentioning... Background check and a letter from your doctor saying youre of sound mind and not depressed etc

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another obvious requirement... a firearms officer being required to do a home check to make sure your guns and ammo are stored in a gun safe, so that only the license holder has access to the firearms/ammo...
 
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I feel like when tragedies like yesterday's school shooting happens that just makes law abiding citizens go out and get armed to protect their families from these crazies. I'm definitely stocking up on more ammo. It bothers me that racist nut job had more guns and ammo then I do. I watched his vid on Twitter.
 
You should be required to have a license same as a drivers license.

  • Pass a written test.
  • Pass a field test that shows ability to properly load, use, and safely store a firearm.
  • Registration of any owned firearm to mirror the vehicle registration process.
  • Different classes of license for different types of firearms (including hunting licenses), to mirror different classes of DL's used for commercial vehicles.
  • Passing of background check, to include red flag laws.
  • Proof of ability to proper store and secure firearms via proof of safe or other means.
With that established you can move to an assault rifle ban, with mandatory buybacks. For those in need of an exemption (ex. Farmers) they would apply for the appropriate license. For those without a license these guns would still be available to rent at a range but not own. For all other guns you issue a federally funded voluntary buyback program with a no questions asked policy on illegally obtained surrendered weapons.

And then you exponetially increase the penalties for illegally owned firearms to curb that behavior. Buybacks are the carrots, fed time are the sticks. And a reduction in the amount of guns is the objective, especially the amount of illegal guns in circulation.

The end goal is to have a well regulated market where bad actors are forced to interact with multiple entities designed to intercept them before they do harm. For law-abiding gun owners its no more of a hassle than getting your drivers license, with the added benefit of having more adequately trained gun owners, shown to have the means to properly use and secure their weapons.
 
Thinking banning the scary AR is gonna stop this….its not, they will still be available on the streets, criminals will still have them. Only thing your doing is banning law abiding citizens from owning one and doing nothing to the criminals that have them in their possession and use them to commit crimes. A pistol w/ a extended magazine is just as effective… guess we should ban pistols to?
 
Matt123 said:
Thinking banning the scary AR is drugs gonna stop this….its not, they will still be available on the streets, criminals will still have them. Only thing your doing is banning law abiding citizens from owning one and doing nothing to the criminals that have them in their possession and use them to commit crimes. A pistol w/ a extended magazine Opioids is just as effective… guess we should ban pistols prescriptions too?
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Matt123 said:
Thinking banning the scary AR is gonna stop this….its not, they will still be available on the streets, criminals will still have them. Only thing your doing is banning law abiding citizens from owning one and doing nothing to the criminals that have them in their possession and use them to commit crimes. A pistol w/ a extended magazine is just as effective… guess we should ban pistols to?
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AR15's are not assault rifles. They have never seen combat and they're not in use by a single military on earth.

Actual assault rifles (full auto) are extremely hard to get and stupid expensive thanks to the 1986 ban on them, which is still in effect.
 
konceptjones said:
AR15's are not assault rifles. They have never seen combat and they're not in use by a single military on earth.

Actual assault rifles (full auto) are extremely hard to get and stupid expensive thanks to the 1986 ban on them, which is still in effect.
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Yep, I’m saying AR like what the politicians like to scream on the news when something like this happens to further push their dislike for guns and the need for a gun ban. When in reality it’s just another semi automatic weapon.. just like a pistol. Slim number of people have the actual license to legally own a full-auto assault rifle/ or full-auto anything but they continue to push out fear that these semi automatic ar15 are the only reasoning… not someone mentally ill w/ a weapon.
 
MrBeef said:
Don’t want someone who’s planning to do something to be able to act on it quickly

Like if someone was planning to shoot up a Benny the butcher show they got tickets to in Oct

They can’t try and get a gun in June when they decide Benny should get aired out
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So they'll get it from the streets and air it out anyways, what was stopped???
 
Requirement: American citizen. That's it. Its my constitutional right. Don't blame my rights for the failures of a community. On average, parents fail their children. Parents are ALWAYS the reason these kids snap. Even adults that snap like this, it started at home long ago.

Yet you never ever see a bunch of news specials on the ways parents are failing their children. As a parent, we have to recognize the excuses we make for the reasons our children have certain issues. For the most part, we allow our children to be raised by various media and their peers. This is what you get when parents think that parenting only consists of feeding, housing, and teaching kids to be consumers. Parents provide little to no guidance these days. Its risky having children these days because your children have to be around misguided or worse, youth with no guidance.

This is why I'm glad they passed a law that the parents of school shooters will also share the responsibility. I don't think that is nationwide though.
 
Since we're having this discussion, and I've seen it mentioned that we should limit ammo purchases, there's one question I gotta ask:

Why is a person having a lot of ammo cause for concern?

I took inventory last night and I have:

1100 rounds of .22LR boxed + 20rds in 2 magazines
1600 rounds of .22WMR boxed + 210rds in 7 magazines
~900 rounds of 9mm boxed + 401rds across 18 magazines (approx 800 'cause one is a jar that I have no intentions of pouring out and counting by hand)
210 rounds of .223 and .556 boxed + 430rds across 13 magazines (4 are 40rd joints).
Also 20rds of 10mm I saw on sale while I was waiting for the Glock 20 I bought to clear a background check (which expired so I never got the gun).

I'm a responsible owner. My guns are in locked cases except for one pistol that I keep in a locked desk drawer during the day and my 9mm carbine which sits under the edge of my bed at night. The majority of the boxed ammo is also in combination lock boxes. The stuff that's not locked up is sitting out because I need to buy another lock box.

To many folks that own guns, I barely have any ammo, but the average person hears "1100 rounds of ammunition" and they shit their pants, panic as if you're about to blam up Target or some shit. What about any of that is cause for alarm? Seriously: You can go to WalMart right now and buy a bucket of 1400 rounds of .22LR right now for something like $80, and if you're a heavy shooter, that's a great deal so you would want to stock up.

Why is that an issue?
 
konceptjones said:
Since we're having this discussion, and I've seen it mentioned that we should limit ammo purchases, there's one question I gotta ask:

Why is a person having a lot of ammo cause for concern?

I took inventory last night and I have:

1100 rounds of .22LR boxed + 20rds in 2 magazines
1600 rounds of .22WMR boxed + 210rds in 7 magazines
~900 rounds of 9mm boxed + 401rds across 18 magazines (approx 800 'cause one is a jar that I have no intentions of pouring out and counting by hand)
210 rounds of .223 and .556 boxed + 430rds across 13 magazines (4 are 40rd joints).
Also 20rds of 10mm I saw on sale while I was waiting for the Glock 20 I bought to clear a background check (which expired so I never got the gun).

I'm a responsible owner. My guns are in locked cases except for one pistol that I keep in a locked desk drawer during the day and my 9mm carbine which sits under the edge of my bed at night. The majority of the boxed ammo is also in combination lock boxes. The stuff that's not locked up is sitting out because I need to buy another lock box.

To many folks that own guns, I barely have any ammo, but the average person hears "1100 rounds of ammunition" and they shit their pants, panic as if you're about to blam up Target or some shit. What about any of that is cause for alarm? Seriously: You can go to WalMart right now and buy a bucket of 1400 rounds of .22LR right now for something like $80, and if you're a heavy shooter, that's a great deal so you would want to stock up.

Why is that an issue?
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Surprised no 308
 
konceptjones said:
Since we're having this discussion, and I've seen it mentioned that we should limit ammo purchases, there's one question I gotta ask:

Why is a person having a lot of ammo cause for concern?

I took inventory last night and I have:

1100 rounds of .22LR boxed + 20rds in 2 magazines
1600 rounds of .22WMR boxed + 210rds in 7 magazines
~900 rounds of 9mm boxed + 401rds across 18 magazines (approx 800 'cause one is a jar that I have no intentions of pouring out and counting by hand)
210 rounds of .223 and .556 boxed + 430rds across 13 magazines (4 are 40rd joints).
Also 20rds of 10mm I saw on sale while I was waiting for the Glock 20 I bought to clear a background check (which expired so I never got the gun).

I'm a responsible owner. My guns are in locked cases except for one pistol that I keep in a locked desk drawer during the day and my 9mm carbine which sits under the edge of my bed at night. The majority of the boxed ammo is also in combination lock boxes. The stuff that's not locked up is sitting out because I need to buy another lock box.

To many folks that own guns, I barely have any ammo, but the average person hears "1100 rounds of ammunition" and they shit their pants, panic as if you're about to blam up Target or some shit. What about any of that is cause for alarm? Seriously: You can go to WalMart right now and buy a bucket of 1400 rounds of .22LR right now for something like $80, and if you're a heavy shooter, that's a great deal so you would want to stock up.

Why is that an issue?
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Let me get some ammo..

It’s not to the average person nothing wrong with having enough ammo or more then one firearm. Especially Covid and election years have taught me anything pick up ammo when you can, when its priced good. Doesn’t take much to skyrocket prices.. let some kind of event or scare tactic come across the news screen and people will panic buy same as the toilet paper crisis. It’s a resellers dream… don’t be that person falling for that bs and watch the prices fall. I never stocked up much on ammo prior to all this because ammo was easily available and priced right then I had to go hunting for that shit and was hard to stock up during that time luckily I did enough jobs out of state I was able to find enough where I worked locally that wasn’t overpriced. Taught me a lesson now I try to keep at least 1k rounds range ammo for each caliper I have for range fun and a few hundred defensive rounds.
 
konceptjones said:
Not yet. I plan on building a .350 Legend pistol and an AR10 in .308 over the next year.
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Cough 458 Socom cough
 
Matt123 said:
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That shit is crazy expensive and hard to get. .350 Legend is available at Walmart. Originally it was gonna be .50 Beowulf, but the ammo is hard to get locally. Then it was 6.5 Grendel but that shit had the same problem. Made a trip to Wallyworld to cop a couple of boxes of .22wmr and saw .350 legend, looked it up and that seems to fit the bill just right. High availability and relatively low cost plus it's legal as a hunting round in this part of the state.
 
Mental health and background check

40 hour course on training.

Must be done every 3 years.
 
konceptjones said:
That shit is crazy expensive and hard to get. .350 Legend is available at Walmart. Originally it was gonna be .50 Beowulf, but the ammo is hard to get locally. Then it was 6.5 Grendel but that shit had the same problem. Made a trip to Wallyworld to cop a couple of boxes of .22wmr and saw .350 legend, looked it up and that seems to fit the bill just right. High availability and relatively low cost plus it's legal as a hunting round in this part of the state.
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😂 yep those ammo prices are no joke for those bigger calipers but it wouldn’t be something I would shoot like that anyways. Kind of like my 6.5CM. I got a wishlist of a few builds Ill eventually do, 350 legend, 458 Socom, and .50 Beowulf is on it. I have spare lowers that need a home. 6.5G would probably be the next.. buddy has one that I shot… incredible besides the ammo cost. Buy ammo online when it doubt.
 
Matt123 said:
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konceptjones said:
That shit is crazy expensive and hard to get. .350 Legend is available at Walmart. Originally it was gonna be .50 Beowulf, but the ammo is hard to get locally. Then it was 6.5 Grendel but that shit had the same problem. Made a trip to Wallyworld to cop a couple of boxes of .22wmr and saw .350 legend, looked it up and that seems to fit the bill just right. High availability and relatively low cost plus it's legal as a hunting round in this part of the state.
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I know someone with the hecate 2 special and uses 416 rounds

Every time he fires a round
 
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