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Trump & The Baby Snatchers

atribecalledGabi said:
So you wrote a titangraph focusing on me giving an arbitrary age when all you had to say is a simple yes or no to a young kid being kept in an enclosure without them knowing where their parents are. Idgaf about none of this gotcha shit you keep pulling with everybody else. Either answer my basic ass question or stop replying to me.
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He wack lol
 
Like i always say some niggas want to be the new white people..


People are hyper hypocritical about shit too but i wont even dive in that one..

dehumanization is real .. im talking about it in the context of people having basic empathy for the plight of the sufferers as a black man/woman any minority ... hell as a human those things shouldnt be far from your consciousness.

its a lotta of broad stroking.. and thats where the hyper...critical shit comes in..there is no such thing as 100 percent so cut that bullshit out.. even intra racially.
 
Hellczar said:
You dont think there are any black immigrants that this can happen too? Would you really care?
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You know good and well those people on the border aren't black. Has there ever been this much concern over the problems black immigrants have? Ask the Haitians how welcomed they feel. Well ask the ones that didn't get turned away. Turned away with their kids.
 
Babelipsss said:
You know good and well those people on the border aren't black. Has there ever been this much concern over the problems black immigrants have? Ask the Haitians how welcomed they feel. Well ask the ones that didn't get turned away. Turned away with their kids.
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Exactly but yall didnt care about Haitians did you? But im supposed to think your anti latin shit is cool.
 
Hellczar said:
Exactly but yall didnt care about Haitians did you? But im supposed to think your anti latin shit is cool.
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I don't know about y'all but I cared. Still do. That's why I'm not jumping on the Mexican bandwagon. Those people don't care about us or our causes. Google their newspaper cartoons or their presidents opinion of us. Stop getting all excited about everything the media tells you.
 
CeLLar-DooR said:
Words like 'illegal' and 'crime' are loaded, which is why conservatives love them so much.

Anyway, I'd suggest that if you believe illegally enterin' a different country will greatly benefit the lives of your children, perhaps even save them, and you DON'T do it, you're a bad parent.

How they even supposed to kno' their children will be taken away?
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They're not loaded, they're factually correct. It accurately describes the status of these people and their actions.

The end doesn't justify the means. It's no different that people here selling drugs, pussy, or committing mortgage fraud, bank fraud, SSI/SSDI fraud, welfare fraud, or any other crime in the name of benefiting the lives of their children. Yes, it DOES make you a shitty ass parent because you're NOT really thinking about your kids, your thinking about yourself. I've been in situations very recently, as in the last three years, where we were piss poor and barely surviving and the thought of scraping together a few dollars to cop something and go flip it around the way was tempting, but the greater thought was for my kids. They need me with them, not in prison. They don't need me getting killed over some drug shit, they don't need to be put in harm's way because of it either.

Doing something illegal in the name of your children makes you a shitty, fucked up ass parent that really deserves to have your kids taken from you. You aren't thinking of your kids, you're being a selfish piece of shit. What your kids deserve is a parent that will work hard as fuck because you love them and want to provide for them. You do that work, as much as necessary because your kids are worth it. You're useless to your kids dead or in jail so when you create conditions in their lives where this is a possibility, you've failed your kids.
 
konceptjones said:
They're not loaded, they're factually correct. It accurately describes the status of these people and their actions.

The end doesn't justify the means. It's no different that people here selling drugs, pussy, or committing mortgage fraud, bank fraud, SSI/SSDI fraud, welfare fraud, or any other crime in the name of benefiting the lives of their children. Yes, it DOES make you a shitty ass parent because you're NOT really thinking about your kids, your thinking about yourself. I've been in situations very recently, as in the last three years, where we were piss poor and barely surviving and the thought of scraping together a few dollars to cop something and go flip it around the way was tempting, but the greater thought was for my kids. They need me with them, not in prison. They don't need me getting killed over some drug shit, they don't need to be put in harm's way because of it either.

Doing something illegal in the name of your children makes you a shitty, fucked up ass parent that really deserves to have your kids taken from you. You aren't thinking of your kids, you're being a selfish piece of shit. What your kids deserve is a parent that will work hard as fuck because you love them and want to provide for them. You do that work, as much as necessary because your kids are worth it. You're useless to your kids dead or in jail so when you create conditions in their lives where this is a possibility, you've failed your kids.
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Well yeah they're factual, I didn't say otherwise. I said they're loaded. A person caught jumpin' the train is a criminal but you wouldn't tar such a person with the same brush as a rapist. Or, at least, you shouldn't.

As for the rest - you and I just see life differently. 'The ends doesn't justify the means' pfffft my nig you're speakin' like these guys are slaughterin' babies for a few pennies. They're crossin' an imaginary line in search of a better life. That doesn't mean every one of them should be granted entry but it does mean if you're gonna turn them away, you don't need to treat them like they're hardened murderers.

I don't have kids but if I did and we needed the money I personally would have no problem stealin', sellin', or hoppin' a boarder. But then you don't have to agree with that, just understand it
 
CeLLar-DooR said:
Well yeah they're factual, I didn't say otherwise. I said they're loaded. A person caught jumpin' the train is a criminal but you wouldn't tar such a person with the same brush as a rapist. Or, at least, you shouldn't.

As for the rest - you and I just see life differently. 'The ends doesn't justify the means' pfffft my nig you're speakin' like these guys are slaughterin' babies for a few pennies. They're crossin' an imaginary line in search of a better life. That doesn't mean every one of them should be granted entry but it does mean if you're gonna turn them away, you don't need to treat them like they're hardened murderers.

I don't have kids but if I did and we needed the money I personally would have no problem stealin', sellin', or hoppin' a boarder. But then you don't have to agree with that, just understand it
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Yeah, you don't need to speak on this shit then... Ever.

In the last 18 years I've had to make some hard decisions about gettin money for my family. We've been on food stamps, drove around Phoenix going from one food bank to the next to get food for the kids. My wife brings this up a lot when she talks about how we used to struggle, but in order to make sure my wife and kids had enough food at the house, I used to take two pieces of fruit for lunch just to make sure what I was eating didn't really impact the little bit of food we had at the crib. I would leave the one car we had with my wife in case she needed it and walk 2-3 miles to get to the bus stop in 100+ degree heat to catch the bus to work. We've filed for bankruptcy three times (ch7 twice, and ch13 once), the last ch7 was discharged just last year. Nigga we've been broke as fuck, especially since coming out here to Vegas, but the one thing I've NEVER done in all these years was run out and do something illegal in order to put food on the table. No, I worked harder. I'd do lil side jobs for money, I've sold off my recording equipment several times so we could eat. Sold my computers and laptops to pay rent. I sold my DJ rig so we could pay a bill, I did what I could to make sure my kids were tight LEGALLY. So I have quite a different perspective on this than someone like you with nothing but hypotheticals; I've had to live this shit. Yes there were stretches when I had money, had a fat crib with a few cars out front, those were some good ass times too. But there's been some really fucked up low points and I STILL never once resorted to illegal activity to put food on the table.

I don't have to understand that shit. I will never understand it. There's always another way you just have to be willing to take the time to find it.
 
Babelipsss said:
Putting a child under a year old in a cage is wrong. Question answered. Now show me where this actually happened. It's CNN propaganda.
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She'll never answer you. I gave her ample opportunity to prove it happened and she danced around it. She made that shit up.

I've said it time and time again, when people like her, HellCzar, and Race are pressed for factual information they can never produce any.
 
konceptjones said:
Yeah, you don't need to speak on this shit then... Ever.

In the last 18 years I've had to make some hard decisions about gettin money for my family. We've been on food stamps, drove around Phoenix going from one food bank to the next to get food for the kids. My wife brings this up a lot when she talks about how we used to struggle, but in order to make sure my wife and kids had enough food at the house, I used to take two pieces of fruit for lunch just to make sure what I was eating didn't really impact the little bit of food we had at the crib. I would leave the one car we had with my wife in case she needed it and walk 2-3 miles to get to the bus stop in 100+ degree heat to catch the bus to work. We've filed for bankruptcy three times (ch7 twice, and ch13 once), the last ch7 was discharged just last year. Nigga we've been broke as fuck, especially since coming out here to Vegas, but the one thing I've NEVER done in all these years was run out and do something illegal in order to put food on the table. No, I worked harder. I'd do lil side jobs for money, I've sold off my recording equipment several times so we could eat. Sold my computers and laptops to pay rent. I sold my DJ rig so we could pay a bill, I did what I could to make sure my kids were tight LEGALLY. So I have quite a different perspective on this than someone like you with nothing but hypotheticals; I've had to live this shit. Yes there were stretches when I had money, had a fat crib with a few cars out front, those were some good ass times too. But there's been some really fucked up low points and I STILL never once resorted to illegal activity to put food on the table.

I don't have to understand that shit. I will never understand it. There's always another way you just have to be willing to take the time to find it.
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Come on man lets not do that

Bro you and I have a fundamental disagreement here I don't have respect for the law at all. I follow it because of my own morals and coz its inconvenient not to. If the choice is break the laws of a tyrannical country that I'm not even from or keep livin' in constant danger, I probably wouldn't even think twice about it
 
Playmaker88 said:
Like i always say some niggas want to be the new white people..


People are hyper hypocritical about shit too but i wont even dive in that one..

dehumanization is real .. im talking about it in the context of people having basic empathy for the plight of the sufferers as a black man/woman any minority ... hell as a human those things shouldnt be far from your consciousness.

its a lotta of broad stroking.. and thats where the hyper...critical shit comes in..there is no such thing as 100 percent so cut that bullshit out.. even intra racially.
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If you're suffering by your own hand, what empathy is there to be had?
 
konceptjones said:
Yup. Happened on his watch too.

Doesn't matter if it's a misdemeanor or not. I mean, you can sit in county for 6 months to a year on a bullshit ass misdemeanor depending on where you're at (here it's a max of 6 months). If you're arrested with your child for any crime that can get you in a holding cell overnight will result in your child being sent to foster care if a relative or friend isn't available quick enough. Why do we not expect that people entering the country illegally wouldn't be treated the same way?
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What this comes down to is how it’s being done, my dude. Yeah, they get arrested, but why are the children being put into cages and mistreated? This is the image of America. Trump has changed how we are now viewed.

You accept that by arguing law. From what I see, they’re arguing the inhuman way they’re seperating the families. This is all image for Trump, everything is. He didn’t need to sign an executive order, but he did. Why? It’s all political image and he’s doing this like other dictators have, using political situations and turning them into spectacles.

Trump talking his shit to Dems, even tho he’s doing this.

Melania wearing an “I don’t care do you jacket”

The other day Sessions says they didn’t intend for this to happen, yet just a few weeks ago he was stating that this was their intentions.

^ all for show

This isn’t how America should be perceived. You don’t realize the damage. Every country has an immigration policy. It’s normal. What’s not is what we are seeing and hearing.
 
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