The Official MCU Thread

[Revolver Ocelot]

lol, how you come in and defend @Revolver Ocelot but confused me with him. Lay off the weed man.

Fuck your bitchass bringing me up for, yet again.

Ain't nobody defending shit.

Folks just see the bitchass nigga that you are.

 

[God_Body]

 

[Shenco]

Bruh, just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean we don't understand. Some of ya'll trip me out with how you just assume everyone gives a shit about the shit you and some of these butthurt industry folks bitch about.

If you understood, you wouldn’t be asking what a movie star is. If you understood, you would have seen Tarantino, Coppola, and Scorsese’s points. Instead it gets boiled down to “ oh them old ninjas just hating.”

You don’t gotta agree to recognize a valid point. You just have to understand the point being made

 

[The Lonious Monk]

If you understood, you wouldn’t be asking what a movie star is. If you understood, you would have seen Tarantino, Coppola, and Scorsese’s points. Instead it gets boiled down to “ oh them old ninjas just hating.”

You don’t gotta agree to recognize a valid point. You just have to understand the point being made

Whether a point is valid or not is subjective. I can understand a point being made and still think its stupid or wrong.

Here's basically everything Tarantino said.

“Part of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood is…you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say that. I think that’s been said a zillion times…but it’s like, you know, it’s these franchise characters that become a star.”

“Look, I used to collect Marvel comics like crazy when I was a kid,” Tarantino said. “There’s an aspect that if these movies were coming out when I was in my twenties, I would totally be fucking happy and totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies being made. They would be those movies amongst other movies. But, you know, I’m almost 60, so yeah. No, I’m not quite as excited about them.”

“My only axe to grind against them is they’re the only things that seem to be made,” he added. “And they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement amongst a fan base or even for the studio making them. That’s what they’re excited about. And so it’s just the fact that they are the entire representation of this era of movies right now. There’s not really much room for anything else. That’s my problem.”

First, he didn't give some deep definition of what a movie star is. He just declares that the characters are the stars not the actors. That's his opinion. It's not a very good one IMO given that there are MCU fans that are very much invested in the actors playing the characters (e.g., Chadwick as T'chala). He basically ends it by saying the quiet part out loud, which is the same shit that all these people are mad about - "Those Marvel movies are more popular and get more excitement than my movies, and I don't like that." You might not like the term, but it's just hating plain and simple. Three MCU movies came theatres this year - THREE - and not a single one of them was the only movie in the theatre at the time it was out, so unless I'm wrong there was a lot of room for other movies to be released and get some shine. So what are we talking about here?

 

[Shenco]

Whether a point is valid or not is subjective. I can understand a point being made and still think its stupid or wrong.

Here's basically everything Tarantino said.



First, he didn't give some deep definition of what a movie star is. He just declares that the characters are the stars not the actors. That's his opinion. It's not a very good one IMO given that there are MCU fans that are very much invested in the actors playing the characters (e.g., Chadwick as T'chala). He basically ends it by saying the quiet part out loud, which is the same shit that all these people are mad about - "Those Marvel movies are more popular and get more excitement than my movies, and I don't like that." You might not like the term, but it's just hating plain and simple. Three MCU movies came theatres this year - THREE - and not a single one of them was the only movie in the theatre at the time it was out, so unless I'm wrong there was a lot of room for other movies to be released and get some shine. So what are we talking about here?

Okay, let's try it like this.

Do you watch wrestling?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Okay, let's try it like this.

Do you watch wrestling?

Not anymore, but I used to so

 

[Shenco]

Not anymore, but I used to so

What made you stop?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

What made you stop?

It just didn't interest anymore. I mostly watched it as a child when it was campy and goofy. As I grew up and they tried to change it to attract a more mature audience, I lost interest.

 

[Shenco]

It just didn't interest anymore. I mostly watched it as a child when it was campy and goofy. As I grew up and they tried to change it to attract a more mature audience, I lost interest.

So there was nothing there that made you want to watch it anymore?

 

[King Freeman]

Where does this thread rank as far as toxic behavior goes?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

So there was nothing there that made you want to watch it anymore?

Not really. I just lost interest.

 

[Iceberg_Taylor]

Where does this thread rank as far as toxic behavior goes?

bruh I don’t even kno what’s goin on here anymore. And just an FYI Shanko thinks he’s gods gift to wrestling fans so this whole shit is gonna take an even further left turn. Like we need MCU news or theories up in here to smooth this shit out

 

[King Freeman]

It was all so simple when we used to just jump @Duwop whenever he'd post one of those dumbass YouTube vids. We'd pack that nigga and go about our day. Now it's just nasty in here. No soul in it. Just hate.

I'm tired of y'all.

 

[Shenco]

Not really. I just lost interest.

You just proved my point, but let's dig a little deeper.

Ok now what’s your favorite movie and who’s your least favorite actor? Also what’s your least favorite movie and who is your favorite actor?

 

[Mister]

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You just proved my point, but let's dig a little deeper.

Ok now what’s your favorite movie and who’s your least favorite actor? Also what’s your least favorite movie and who is your favorite actor?

I'm not a big movie buff man so I don't really have a favorite actor or movie really. If I had to pick for the latter, I'd probably say Infinity War, but that's not saying much.

If you got a point, just make it because I'm not seeing it. If you're trying to say that people's tastes change as they age, that's true, but what does that have to do with what's being discussed? Nobody is criticizing Tarantino saying that he would have liked the movies when he was in his 20s but doesn't care as much now that he's in his 60s.

 

[Shenco]

I'm not a big movie buff man so I don't really have a favorite actor or movie really. If I had to pick for the latter, I'd probably say Infinity War, but that's not saying much.

If you got a point, just make it because I'm not seeing it. If you're trying to say that people's tastes change as they age, that's true, but what does that have to do with what's being discussed? Nobody is criticizing Tarantino saying that he would have liked the movies when he was in his 20s but doesn't care as much now that he's in his 60s.

How you got that 2nd paragraph from anything that was said or asked, I'm not entirely sure brother Monk.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How you got that 2nd paragraph from anything that was said or asked, I'm not entirely sure brother Monk.

Like I said bruh, I don't know where you were going with your line of questioning. You claimed my answer about losing interest in wrestling as I became an adult somehow proved your point, so I assumed that your point had something to do with people's tastes changing as they grow. That doesn't seem like a crazy reach to me since part of Tarantino's comments were related to that too.

 

[Shenco]

Like I said bruh, I don't know where you were going with your line of questioning. You claimed my answer about losing interest in wrestling as I became an adult somehow proved your point, so I assumed that your point had something to do with people's tastes changing as they grow. That doesn't seem like a crazy reach to me since part of Tarantino's comments were related to that too.

Think about what I just asked you and your answers. You stopped watching wrestling because you lost interest in it. Why would you lose interest in something? There's no attachment. There's no connection. There's nothing interesting. There's no....

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Think about what I just asked you and your answers. You stopped watching wrestling because you lost interest in it. Why would you lose interest in something? There's no attachment. There's no connection. There's nothing interesting. There's no....

Sometimes you lose interest in things because your tastes change. I was an Undertaker fan. He was still there when I stopped watching, so that connection hadn't completely disappeared. If nothing else, I still liked his gimmick. Wrestling just wasn't entertaining to me anymore. The UFC had come along, so I could watch real fighting instead of the fake stuff. I was older so the childish and goofy parts didn't appeal to me and the "mature" parts were just dumb IMO.

All that's beside the point. I still don't get what that has to do with our discussion. People have a connection to MCU movies. It's fair to say that most of that connection is to the characters and the franchises, but I'd argue that after seeing the same actor play a character 3 times, most fans also develop a vested interest in that actor. That's why I think Tarantino is wrong. Just look at how happy a lot of Daredevil fans are to see that Marvel is using basically the same cast from the Netflix series. If Tarantino was right, no one would give a shit who the actors were in the new series.