The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona
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TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
I've never agreed with vaccine mandates so I feel Kyrie on that point in general. There should be ways to allow people to work where they'd like without getting the vaccine. Regular testing, masking, distancing, etc. At least until the vaccine has been out for a few years and more is knowm about it and Covid.
That being said, basketball does not allow for those restrictions. It's a physical game with close contact. So vaccines should be required. I feel the same about mandates for healthcare workers. You can't allow the people who are supposed to treat people get them sick.
That being said, basketball does not allow for those restrictions. It's a physical game with close contact. So vaccines should be required. I feel the same about mandates for healthcare workers. You can't allow the people who are supposed to treat people get them sick.
Kyrie is more then entitled to do what's he thinks is best for him. What him and others don't seem to get is that same mentality also extends to the Nets and they also need to do what's best for that team overall. And if he's taking a stance that doesn't allow for him to be a full member of the team then they also have to do what's best for the team and that would be him sitting out because thinking he can just pop up and play only away games without any real practice is foolish idc how talented he is. That's just gonna fuck up team chemistry and how they play.
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
Your first paragraph is all me and a few been saying.
Your second......nah we adults. If it doesn’t stop it or stop the spread, what’s the point? The vaxx may not allow them to get as sick but that doesn’t translate into when spreading it, making it less strong or infectious.
If they worried about the persons personal health (which I doubt) they couldve done a lot more with affordable healthcare waaaaaay before this pandemic.
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
So are they trying to protect their investment by not letting him play to not allow him to get sick?
Do they think their investment will infect the other investments?
So if the vaxx can’t fully stop the above, why force it?
We just had a whole thread on bullying.
This is exactly what’s happening but then people use, “they don’t want granny or the kids “ to get sick.
But if you can still f’ing spread it, is that person moving careful to not get the kids and granny sick too?
It’s like people not understanding this like I said from the get go.
A lot of elitist shit going on with all this.
From the Nets perspective it's most likely a out not paying someone to willingly miss more than half the season over something they have actual control over. We not talking about an injury or something out of Kyrie's control. He has full control over whether or not he gets vaccinated and the company he works for also has the right to decide whether or not they want to pay somebody who can't show up to work full time on their own accord. Given that Kyrie played last year before the NY vaxx mandates and the Nets gave no fucks it's pretty clear this is being done because of that and not some moral stance on the vaccine itself.
You're a business owner. Would you pay somebody their full salary for only showing up less than half the time by choice?
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
Their choice based on a new rule?
I can’t be mad at a person for bucking a new rule that they feel strongly against. We would need to see how we can work it out.
This is a matter of ethics and morals.
I can not and will never impose my beliefs on my employees.
I can’t stop Muslim bruh from fucking up his numbers because he needs to pray. His numbers may be down but I pay him the same. Sounds unfair to the others but that’s his faith. Same with sick family members or health issues.
But this ......this needs compromise.
It’s bigger than a person being entertainment
You having someone who needs to take time to pray still isn't the same. Them praying is an obligation to their religious beliefs. Kyrie not getting the vaccine is a personal choice. There's no obligation there just a decision he is making.
When you're talking about working somewhere where your success depends on chemistry and being a cohesive unit then having somebody who, due to their own decision, can only show up less than half the time hurts everybody. You think the NBA don't want one of its most high profile players on the court? They been talking about a Lakers/Nets Finals for 3 years now. You think the NBA and Nets are willingly just walking away from the money that could possibly generate? Hell no.
If there was a way Kyrie could play then he would which is why I said he played last year unvaccinated and nobody on the Nets gave 1 fuck because there was no mandate thus his status didn't matter. There is no room for compromise because the restriction isn't something imposed by the Nets but by the city/state they're playing in and the rules they are mandating. The Nets are responding in kind by doing what's in the overall best interest of their team chemistry and long term. Neither is really wrong in their stance but those stances also come with consequences and Kyrie is facing his just as the Nets consequences is being without one of their best players.
I also feel like the moment Kyrie pulled that shit he did last season about "We don't need a head coach" and then randomly bouncing for 2 weeks mid season I feel like the front office was already unsure about where to head with him and KD was the reason he already hadn't been traded. Now he's literally given them the perfect reason to not only sit him but not resign him and the majority of the public be on their side.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
It's not exactly about stopping the spread, but moreso about protecting their money makers. Say you allow people to choose to be vaxxed or not and half choose to not be vaxxed. And say a few of those unvaxxed are the best players in the league and they have to be hospitalized for covid or worse because of some underlying condition of which they were unaware.
Surely you can see the risk/reward equation here from the team and league perspective.
Hundredeyes
Active Member
Ironically this isn’t an issue in (European) Football cause there are no mandates…
and y’all that wanna hear but money, wealth and overal scale of European Football dwarves even the NBA. How come none of this is an issue in Europe where the big money and investments are at?
I get that for some folk, ‘The law is the law‘ and that one should follow it but the mandates are complete and utter nonsense
and y’all that wanna hear but money, wealth and overal scale of European Football dwarves even the NBA. How come none of this is an issue in Europe where the big money and investments are at?
I get that for some folk, ‘The law is the law‘ and that one should follow it but the mandates are complete and utter nonsense
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
I’m not that familiar with the European soccer approach to this, but I know you’re right about the money side. If it’s not an issue there maybe it shouldn’t be one here, idk. America is just different though and it’s hard to change that.
