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The suspicious part of my mind wonders if it was leaked accidently on purpose to spur the trial and use of the new type of vaccine on a massive scale. Idk, I like ALL the cards laid out but it's like pulling teeth from these assholes
The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona
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Long but good read:
jamiemetzl.com
Dude is legit btw. WHO advisor thats been calling for lab leak investigation from the very beginning. He's got a lot more info/articles on his Twitter.
It's possible we don't ever get the answer to this especially with how China is treating it. The wild shit to me is scientists alleging the lab leak have been there from the start but for whatever reason the zoonotic infection was getting all the support and regurgitated by US media & Fauci
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Y'all probably think I'm nuts how I go hard on the media but if they stopped being so got damn political and turning every story into some hyper partisan tug of war they might actually start doing their jobs more sufficiently.
Origins of SARS-CoV-2 | Jamie Metzl
NOTE: This post was originally published on April 16, 2020 and has been updated regularly. Many people have reached out to me questioning the assertion I ha ...
jamiemetzl.com
Dude is legit btw. WHO advisor thats been calling for lab leak investigation from the very beginning. He's got a lot more info/articles on his Twitter.
It's possible we don't ever get the answer to this especially with how China is treating it. The wild shit to me is scientists alleging the lab leak have been there from the start but for whatever reason the zoonotic infection was getting all the support and regurgitated by US media & Fauci
Ex-New York Times health reporter: 'Lab leak' coronavirus theory looking stronger
Former New York Times health reporter Donald McNeil became the latest prominent voice to argue there is strong evidence that the coronavirus pandemic resulted from a leak from a Chinese lab, a theory dismissed last year as fringe nonsense by numerous media outlets.
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Y'all probably think I'm nuts how I go hard on the media but if they stopped being so got damn political and turning every story into some hyper partisan tug of war they might actually start doing their jobs more sufficiently.
My guy Saagar Enjetti said hes pulling receipts on the show tomorrow
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My guy Saagar Enjetti said hes pulling receipts on the show tomorrow
Post up.
CeLLar-DooR
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Long but good read:
Origins of SARS-CoV-2 | Jamie Metzl
NOTE: This post was originally published on April 16, 2020 and has been updated regularly. Many people have reached out to me questioning the assertion I ha ...
Dude is legit btw. WHO advisor thats been calling for lab leak investigation from the very beginning. He's got a lot more info/articles on his Twitter.
It's possible we don't ever get the answer to this especially with how China is treating it. The wild shit to me is scientists alleging the lab leak have been there from the start but for whatever reason the zoonotic infection was getting all the support and regurgitated by US media & Fauci
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Ex-New York Times health reporter: 'Lab leak' coronavirus theory looking stronger
Former New York Times health reporter Donald McNeil became the latest prominent voice to argue there is strong evidence that the coronavirus pandemic resulted from a leak from a Chinese lab, a theory dismissed last year as fringe nonsense by numerous media outlets.
Y'all probably think I'm nuts how I go hard on the media but if they stopped being so got damn political and turning every story into some hyper partisan tug of war they might actually start doing their jobs more sufficiently.
The reason the zoonatic hypothesis is gettin' most of the attention is because its most likely. There are many zoonatic diseases all over the place and it makes the most sense.
The article says that the virus would have come from bats even if it was leaked from a lab anyway (a feasible claim, though one for which he provided no evidence at all) so lab or no the virus is zoonatic
Either way, this virus came from bats. Did a Chinese lab accidentally leak it? Very possible. Does that change anything? Not really
It's impossible to say it changes nothing til we get all the details. If lab leak occurred could it have been an accident? Sure.
But there's a diff between "zoonotic is most likely" vs push back on investigating another likely hypothesis. We can find out if it leaked, why it leaked, and why there was so much resistance to even investigating that hypothesis.
CeLLar-DooR
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No, if it was leaked from a lab yours and my day to day lives are not impacted at all, neither would the roll out of the vaccine nor would the need for the vaccine change.
*yaaaaaaawn* more talk of the scary media pushin' agendas.
There is no resistance to investigation except from China.
Though again, as the article you posted points out, the virus transferred from bats to humans. The lab would be a middle man, if it did indeed come from a lab.
Ur pointing out the most basic part.
Ofc it came from a bat no one is refuting that. How did it get to humans though?
If it's from gain of function research that changes the focus of the convo. None of the 'lab leak' scientists are assuming ill intent besides Chinese government resistance.
Fact is there are established scientists that pushed for this investigation from the start. They aren't conspiracy theorists. Yet media referred it as such before it was even ruled out.
Mr.LV
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Some Chinese people lack spatial awareness for some reason, so this hypothesis of the virus leaking out of lab in Wuhan isn't farfetched. They been talking about a worker at the virology lab could have been infected and went to the wet market in Wuhan and spread it since the beginning of the pandemic.
CeLLar-DooR
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Mate they should investigate the origins of the virus even if they were 99.999999999999999% sure they knew what happened.
Just because people think it didn't come from a lab and they happen to be on TV it doesn't mean that same person doesn't want an investigation.
If you need a lil catch up on animal to human viruses I recommend this video
Lol apparently this dude doesn't even know why he's arguing w me.
Trust the science dawg
Another very long, but good read. Goes into the technical shit too:
www.google.com
Basically gets into the how and why some virologists knew from the get go that Covid 19 didn't jump straight from bat to human bc there is timely process that would have to naturally occur. That process seemed to have completely skipped and got straight to human infection potency (as would occur with gain of function).
In that bill Maher interview I posted a lil earlier that dude Bret Weinstein is explaining that technical process that happens in the lab.
Also the beginning of the article references the Lancet letter organized and drafted by Peter Dazsak strongly condemning lab leak hypothesis. Turns out that guy was actually funding research at Wuhan Institute of Virology. Conflict of interest much?? That statement had a huge influence on media "debunking" lab leak.
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This isn't just "so what it came from a lab" there's huge implications that would suggest certain scientists are either extremely incompetent or complicit.
The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?
If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As is now obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it.
www.google.com
Basically gets into the how and why some virologists knew from the get go that Covid 19 didn't jump straight from bat to human bc there is timely process that would have to naturally occur. That process seemed to have completely skipped and got straight to human infection potency (as would occur with gain of function).
In that bill Maher interview I posted a lil earlier that dude Bret Weinstein is explaining that technical process that happens in the lab.
Also the beginning of the article references the Lancet letter organized and drafted by Peter Dazsak strongly condemning lab leak hypothesis. Turns out that guy was actually funding research at Wuhan Institute of Virology. Conflict of interest much?? That statement had a huge influence on media "debunking" lab leak.
:clawd3:
This isn't just "so what it came from a lab" there's huge implications that would suggest certain scientists are either extremely incompetent or complicit.
B_A
I was here
This was on television in 1976. More relevant today than ever because things didn't get better, they got worse.
B_A
I was here
Easier to swallow bullshit than chew the truth I've noticed with people. Very frustrating cuz its in every facet of life.
Hundredeyes
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Brilliant market penetrating strategy from Moderna, they’re not legally liable for shit now so - just like Pfizer/BioNtech - can claim ridiculous 100% effectiveness after their self regulated study without getting sued ... Callow and naive people will read these headlines and take shit at face value not realizing these are multinational companies that literally spent - and profit - billions on marketing and are represented by powerful industry lobby groups from The Hague to Washington.
Moderna doesn’t care about your children nore the pandemic, theyre currently fighting your national government cause they don’t wanna give up the vaccine patents eventhough they received goverment/taxpayer subsidies from countries worldwide to develop said vaccine lol.
They’re setting up and securing government and private contracts/orders consisting of 100s of millions of doses of vaccine for 2022,23 etc.
^^^^^ this shit briefly summarized in this vid:Another very long, but good read. Goes into the technical shit too:
The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?
If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As is now obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it.
Basically gets into the how and why some virologists knew from the get go that Covid 19 didn't jump straight from bat to human bc there is timely process that would have to naturally occur. That process seemed to have completely skipped and got straight to human infection potency (as would occur with gain of function).