The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: Joe Biden is the 46th President of the United States
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Rubato
it only matters to us
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
No this is where the he is sowing the division is taking foot the establishment has long been anti progressive... They have been trying to put a damper on progressives hard body for a few years from media to establishment politcians to Nancy Pelsoi
Putin knows that "America" wrings its hands collectively about "socialism" his efforts are two fold to add to the Narrative thats already baked into the cake here and weaken what seem to be the fav in favor of a malleable Donald Trump everyone is going to eat it up and its going to work...
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
They whyis because of the mainstreams vested interest.. or disinterest
anyone can beat Trump thats a fact the beat trump narrative is shortsighted and misguided
Inori
NAWF
I must admit I heard this in passing... and still took away from it my original take about Putin not necessarily supporting Bernie.. but attempting to cause a fuss amongst folks in the US.
Pretty much had the same take that @Playmaker88 and myself stated..
Except.. im just hoping that shit doesn't work this time lol.
Before Bernie was in the lead folks was saying I'd vote for ANYONE that's not Trump... and now that narrative seems to be shifting since Bernie has pulled ahead
25centsandwich
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Bruh its hard to beat an incumbent in a good economy with no major foreign conflicts...
Trump is trump so we gotta great chance but its far from a done deal
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
You know what gets me is the fact that for decades the Dem party as been relatively the same..
minorities say well the democratic party has did this this and this but yet they want to remain status quo now that we hae a couple of candidates who want to grab the third rails.. its about comfortability in the circumstance i dont agree with everything dude says but he is rocking the boat incrementalism just keeps us in the infinite loop....
lets also be honest about those who call themselves/liberal/ progressives when they are establishment aka republican light
From your Bidens/Klouchars/Buttigiegs to you various pundits
noise is news.... and that plays itself out way beyond politics
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
you misunderstood my comments i didnt say they will win they could win if supported thats it..
the economy is a distraction from everything else
Focal Point
Negusa Negast
I don't think you're prepared for the reactions you bout to get
Deontay
WILD IN HER!!
I know what to expect from people who think the Democratic party is "FoR BlAcK PeOpLe"
Focal Point
Negusa Negast
I'm talking about your Bloomberg reference
Playmaker88
G Money is Cash
none from me
Noise.
Noise.
Peace_79
Black Excellence
No one cares about Russia. Especially no one who is voting for Trump.
It is obvious to anyone who cares that Trump is a compromised useful idiot that is doing Putin’s bidding.
Republicans don’t care at all.
Establishment Republicans and sophisticated Republican voters tolerate it in order to get their tax cuts and conservative judges.
Ignorant Trump supporters don’t believe it and/or care more about sticking it to the Libs than Trump selling our country out to the Russians.
This has no bearing on the election
The data disagree with you.
In the state primary that most represents the country thus far, Bernie won by a landslide.
Somewhere between 43% and 50% of the vote.
Let’s look at the Demographics
White
- Bernie 28%
- Mayor Pete 19%
Non white
- Bernie 44%
- Biden 21%
Age 17-44
- Bernie 60%
- Mayor Pete 13%
Age 45+
- Bernie 20%
- Biden 20%
College graduate
- Bernie 27%
- Mayor Pete 17%
Non college graduate
- Bernie 40%
- Mayor Pete 13%
Liberal
- Bernie 40%
- Mayor Pete 12%
Moderate / Conservative
- Bernie 24%
- Biden 24%
Then there is the little fact Bernie is the first candidate in the history of the United States of America, Republican or Democrat, to win the popular vote in EACH of the first three states.
That’s never happened before because Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada are extremely divergent places in terms of their demographic and ideological composition.
But all those different perspectives and backgrounds didn’t seem to diverge in their support for one particular candidate.
Bernie has built a passionate, multi-racial, multi-generational coalition that will guarantee we defeat Trump AND make meaningful change in this country.
Rubato
it only matters to us
Peace_79
Black Excellence
What about Bernie VS Trump?
Let’s take a look
Trump won in 2016 by razor thin margins, less than 80,000 votes across three swing states.
- Pennsylvania
- Wisconsin
- Michigan
Where Hilary didn’t campaign at all.
Where Hilary didn’t campaign at all.
Bernie has an extensive and aggressive grass roots operation that would campaign in all of those places relentlessly.
As of now, Bernie beats every democratic candidate in EACH of these three states.
As of now, Bernie beats every democratic candidate in EACH of these three states.
Pennsylvania
- Bernie 25%
- Biden 20%
Wisconsin
- Bernie 30%
- Biden 13%
Michigan
- Bernie 25%
- Biden 16%
What about head to head?
Sanders beats Trump in each of these states by MORE than any other candidate. Most other candidates lose in a head to head with Trump.
Does that look like a tighter race than you would like? I would agree.
And It looks worse with every other candidate.
You know what the insurance policy is?
Electing a candidate that ENERGIZES the Democratic Base and wins over Independents.
That candidate is Bernard Sanders.
That candidate is Bernard Sanders.
Energizing the base means more than just insurance for those swing states.
It means turning red states blue by exciting and activating voters that have been under represented in the past.
You don’t do that by telling people we can’t do anything for them. You do it with a populist message.
Trump dominated all of the following states in 2016
But in 2020, they are all in play - if we pick the right candidate.
Sanders is leading against Trump in
- FL (29)
- TX (38)
- NC (15)
- SC (9)
- OK (7)
- MO (10)
- OH (18)
- ID (4)
Sanders is down 1 pt to Trump in
- GA (16)
- GA (16)
That’s an additional 146 Electoral votes in play.
He is leading or tied in all of those states BEFORE he is able to leverage the momentum of crushing everyone else in the primaries and putting the millions of volunteers in his organization to work in each of those states.
Compare that to a stale, status quo politician with a stale status quo message that Trump can smear with corruption, racist policies and unpopular positions throughout their career.
Be honest. Ask yourself who will INSPIRE more people to vote.
We tried a corporate status quo politician in 2016.
This time that status quo politician can barely place 4th in a Primary.
The myths about Bernie are just that.
Look at our recent political history. The candidate with the most energy and the best message wins the Presidency.
- Obama
- Trump
- Bernie
A moderate candidate would suppress the democratic vote.
That’s what happened in 2016.
Let’s take a look
Trump won in 2016 by razor thin margins, less than 80,000 votes across three swing states.
- Pennsylvania
- Wisconsin
- Michigan
Where Hilary didn’t campaign at all.
Where Hilary didn’t campaign at all.
Bernie has an extensive and aggressive grass roots operation that would campaign in all of those places relentlessly.
As of now, Bernie beats every democratic candidate in EACH of these three states.
As of now, Bernie beats every democratic candidate in EACH of these three states.
Pennsylvania
- Bernie 25%
- Biden 20%
Wisconsin
- Bernie 30%
- Biden 13%
Michigan
- Bernie 25%
- Biden 16%
What about head to head?
Sanders beats Trump in each of these states by MORE than any other candidate. Most other candidates lose in a head to head with Trump.
- Pennsylvania - 47% to 45%
- Wisconsin - 46% to 44%
- Michigan - 48% to 41%
Does that look like a tighter race than you would like? I would agree.
And It looks worse with every other candidate.
You know what the insurance policy is?
Electing a candidate that ENERGIZES the Democratic Base and wins over Independents.
That candidate is Bernard Sanders.
That candidate is Bernard Sanders.
Energizing the base means more than just insurance for those swing states.
It means turning red states blue by exciting and activating voters that have been under represented in the past.
You don’t do that by telling people we can’t do anything for them. You do it with a populist message.
Trump dominated all of the following states in 2016
But in 2020, they are all in play - if we pick the right candidate.
Sanders is leading against Trump in
- FL (29)
- TX (38)
- NC (15)
- SC (9)
- OK (7)
- MO (10)
- OH (18)
- ID (4)
Sanders is down 1 pt to Trump in
- GA (16)
- GA (16)
That’s an additional 146 Electoral votes in play.
He is leading or tied in all of those states BEFORE he is able to leverage the momentum of crushing everyone else in the primaries and putting the millions of volunteers in his organization to work in each of those states.
Compare that to a stale, status quo politician with a stale status quo message that Trump can smear with corruption, racist policies and unpopular positions throughout their career.
Be honest. Ask yourself who will INSPIRE more people to vote.
We tried a corporate status quo politician in 2016.
This time that status quo politician can barely place 4th in a Primary.
The myths about Bernie are just that.
Look at our recent political history. The candidate with the most energy and the best message wins the Presidency.
- Obama
- Trump
- Bernie
A moderate candidate would suppress the democratic vote.
That’s what happened in 2016.
Peace_79
Black Excellence
Bernie is not good enough for Black folks but you support Michale Bloomberg?
Log off and KYS bro.
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