Don Dada
Active Member
Lmao i always thought that about odb. Ghostface said he was mostly high and drunk in bad moments
Some of the wu niggas didnt want to hang around him during that periods. He never changed sadly
Public Enemy Have Fired Flavor Flav
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Some of the wu niggas didnt want to hang around him during that periods. He never changed sadly
CeLLar-DooR
OG
Take this socialism thing the news section.
Lol @ socialism helps the white man more than captialism
Lol @ socialism helps the white man more than captialism
Fatdre
Basically, you cant fuck wit me ššæ
Thats what I was thinking. This ain't his first time being "fired"
SeaSnake
OG
dont we get the worst now lol capitalism aināt our friend
SeaSnake
OG
Like niggas forgot the whole Western Hemisphere was a capitalist experiment. Worked natives to death and import slaves and ruin cultures. Where are niggas reasoning
KNiGHTS
Active Member
How? He been side by side with Chuck for 30+ years and because he don't want to be associated with Bernie Sanders it's suddenly NOW time to kick Flav out? Nah, this ain't it.
DMorgan
You niggas is EXCOMMUNICADO!!!
LLS not even close to being that
Norrin_Radd
I'm Low-key/Loki even more-so than Thor's bro...
Yāall niggas clearly donāt be reading. He clearly stated that Flav been basically out for awhile now because he doesnāt show up for performances and practices. And wonāt attend fundraisers. Heās only in it for the ābagā this was just the straw that broke the camels back.
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CeLLar-DooR
OG
Lol read the ting na
ThaManMythLegnd
Active Member
LOL, I didn't mean to derail this threead about Chuck turning his back on a friend for 30 years over his own ego(I'm a longtime Chuck D fan, but it's clear that's what's happening). Imma try to make this my last post.
But if you don't understand that the originators of socilaism were some of the most racist MFers out there, good luck. Go read karl Marx's "Das Kapital" and how he talks about anyone who's non-white. 100 years ago you had two evil powers changing the World. Karl Marx in Russia godfathering communism & socialism. And Woodrow Wilson godfatering progressivism & globlaism. As a people we were starting to thrive(60 black owned banks opened post Civil War), but Wilson really amped anti-black sentiment during his term, and progressives again tried to make us "other than" in society. A few years later you had the Tulsa massacre, and the rebrith of the KKK(thanks to Wilson). All while the Fed was created, and central banks were setup around the world. We strayed from the mindset of Marcus Garvey over to Dubois....and that did lasting damage. We praise things like Planned Parenthood created by that racist pshychopath Margaret Sanger, all while lowering our percentage of the populaiton...which was the whole goal of the eugenics progressive sect. Around the world you see socialsim implanted on nations of color, while white nations thrive with captilism. The one period where socialism crept up into North Scandanavia, ended in shambles, and they swtiched back to capiltalism by the 90s. All those programs Bernie likes to praise were going bankrupt until they switched back.
I never said the US government was socialist, I pointed to Latina America and South Africa specifically. My whole point from the jump is that America is capitalistic, which is why our community is now the #7 economic power in the World. I wouldn't have the success I worked for, without it. Neither would people like Oprah, MJ, Robert SMith, or David Steward. Nor our middle class that grew out of capitalism.
As for subsidizing corporations, I'm 100% with you on stopping that. That's not capiitalism though, that's corporatism. Taxpayer money should go back to helping taxpayers, not corps lobbying these clowns in Congress. Or better yet, just give us back more of it
The Western Hemishpere was a imperialism experiment. America wasn't even capitalist until the late 1800s. http://www.allshookdown.com/newhistory/CH01.htm
CeLLar-DooR
OG
Marx or whoever else you got beef with doesn't own socialism.
It's impossible for black people to find equivalence without white people choosin' to give up some of their wealth. It's a matter of maths.
Their countries are powerful because of us. Our countries are weak because of the same thing. Captialism is the very reason we are in the position we in since it dictates that money > life.
No country on earth is fully capitalist, like no one is askin' for countries to become entirely socialist. There's always a bit of both but it's skewed far too strongly in favour of the rich.
SneakDZA
High Brow Negro
Ignoring all the derail stuff it's clear you either didn't read the details of what happened here (even Flav's account supports what Chuck D said about the situation) or you have some kind of cognitive issue going on.
Stomp Johnson
Smooth.
I'm more surprised that it's just now happening in 2020.
SneakDZA
High Brow Negro
It's not really though. PE has been touring since forever and Flav is only ever there for big public events which is lame but not surprising. No other group would have put up with Flav for so long. The closest I can think of is the Happy Mondays with Bez.
Mister B. M. Ed.
The Devilās Greatest Advocateā¦..
Flav been on some Stephin Fetchit shit for years, going all the way back to those Flava of Love shows.
That being said, it's hard to imagine Public Enemy without him. I seen them perform some years ago. They booed Flav when he tried to promote that vh1 shit. I'm sure Chuck felt a way about Flav's coonery fucking up their image.
Bottom Line, if Flav was fucking up beforehand (and he was), then I ain't mad at Chuck for kicking him out.
That being said, it's hard to imagine Public Enemy without him. I seen them perform some years ago. They booed Flav when he tried to promote that vh1 shit. I'm sure Chuck felt a way about Flav's coonery fucking up their image.
Bottom Line, if Flav was fucking up beforehand (and he was), then I ain't mad at Chuck for kicking him out.
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My $0.02
1. America is both Capitalist and Socialist. If you do well in high school you can go to college and graduate school. You might owe some student loans, but your earning power will be 5-10X higher than somebody that didn't go to college. All that is to say if you work hard and bust your ass in school, you can rise up the corporate ladder, that's capitalism.
2. But if you don't do well in school, don't go to college, and don't learn a trade the government with give you section 8 housing, food stamps and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). That's socialism.
Going back to the first example, once you finish grad school and get a good paying job ($75,000+/per year) you can move your family out into the suburbs where you children can get a better education than kids in the inner city because the schools in the suburbs are better than the schools in the inner city. The reason the schools in the suburbs are better is because the residents of that town pay more money in taxes so those schools have bigger budgets. That's capitalism.
Going back to the second example, you're on welfare and food stamps, and you live in the ghetto. You can send your kids to a public school where they will get a basic education. The schools in the inner city have smaller budgets because the residents of the community don't pay much in taxes. That's socialism.
1. America is both Capitalist and Socialist. If you do well in high school you can go to college and graduate school. You might owe some student loans, but your earning power will be 5-10X higher than somebody that didn't go to college. All that is to say if you work hard and bust your ass in school, you can rise up the corporate ladder, that's capitalism.
2. But if you don't do well in school, don't go to college, and don't learn a trade the government with give you section 8 housing, food stamps and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). That's socialism.
Going back to the first example, once you finish grad school and get a good paying job ($75,000+/per year) you can move your family out into the suburbs where you children can get a better education than kids in the inner city because the schools in the suburbs are better than the schools in the inner city. The reason the schools in the suburbs are better is because the residents of that town pay more money in taxes so those schools have bigger budgets. That's capitalism.
Going back to the second example, you're on welfare and food stamps, and you live in the ghetto. You can send your kids to a public school where they will get a basic education. The schools in the inner city have smaller budgets because the residents of the community don't pay much in taxes. That's socialism.
SneakDZA
High Brow Negro
You can't be serious.
Why do you guys keep describing socialism by pointing out the flaws and failures of capitalism?
ThaManMythLegnd
Active Member
White people will NEVER "choose" to give up their wealth. The rise our wealth in our communties was a direct result of us being by far the most innovative, and using capitalism to profit. None of this happens under socialism, you're instead forced to hope.....that white people will give us shit. SPOILER: They won't, and never have.
Case in point, Jews make up a tiny percentage of the poulaiton, but own a ton of shit. Bernie himself is a millionaire. But they tell black & brown that it's not the way through the media, and to instead hope white people will give us min wage jobs.
American median household income is $59k
Jewish median household income is $158k
Whole thing is ironic for those of us old enough to remember the early 90s, and the push for self-reliance, supporting black owned enterprises, and the importance of education. Chuck knows this, but now caping for $15/hr min jobs, as if that will support a family.
Again, we're the #7 economy in the world. WE DICTATE who the Democrats nominate.....but don't use that power. Biden gets all this support after years of hurting our people, and we don't demand any promises. Nothing on fixing our schools, roads. Nothing on expanding justice reform. Nothing on the drug war, or poor infrastruce in our communties. Socialism isn't the way, it's garbage everywhewre its been. And kissing white ass is garbage and never done a damn thing. Which is my main beef with Chuck. We should be demanding capitalist investments in our communnites, it's been the main problem for like 40+ years.
@SneakDZA I don't understand what you mean. How am I, "describing socialism by pointing out the flaws and failures of capitalism"?