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Parkland, FL High School Shooting/The March For Our Lives Thread

My uncle told me earlier that the FBI hemmed up over 9 white students in 3 different schools in Meigs County & two other counties for attempting to shoot up their school. Again, all of this happens in their schools. F that, if I have kids & that's a big if, my kid/kids will stay in inner city schools amongst his/her own people where it's safe

We almost had a school shooting at my HS, but luckily shit was squashed before he could pull it off. Strangely it was all taken care of inhouse... no authorities were involved.

The guy in question was given an expulsion... that's it.
 
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livew...rvivors-announce-national-march-for-our-lives

Parkland School Shooting Survivors Announce National ‘March For Our Lives’

A group survivors of Wednesday’s mass shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida appeared on several nationally-broadcast talk shows Sunday with a message for lawmakers: “You’re either with us or against us.”

Those were the words of Cameron Kasky, a junior at Stoneman Douglas who told CNN’s Dana Bash (and several other anchors) that students nationwide would participant in a “March For Our Lives” on March 24th, with a goal of preventing mass shootings and placing a “badge of shame” on lawmakers who accept money from the National Rifle Association.

“We are losing our lives while the adults are playing around,” Kasky said, adding: “On March 24th, you are going to be seeing students in every single major city marching, and we have our lives on the line here. And at the end of the day that is going to be what’s bringing us to victory, and to making some sort of right out of this tragedy.”

“This is about us begging for our lives,” he continued. “This isn’t about the GOP. This isn’t about the Democrats. This is about us creating a badge of shame for any politicians who are accepting money from the NRA and using us as collateral.”

“This is a student-led grassroots movement,” Stoneman Douglas senior David Hogg told Fox News’ Chris Wallace. “This is not a debate, this is a discussion between Americans, because we’ve had too many debates before and we’ve gotten nowhere. We need a discussion where we hear both sides.”

“From the Republicans, they can talk about mental healthcare,” he continued. “And from the Democrats, they can talk about gun control.”

“But what we need to do here is come together not as Democrats or Republicans but as Americans, and work together to solve this issue through love and compassion, because this event occurred on Valentine’s Day, sadly, and sadly 17 people had to take a bullet to the heart and so did our community. This is a time for change and we can’t let this ever happen again.”

Asked why this school shooting would lead to a different result than others have in recent years — namely, an unchanged status quo — Hogg responded in part: “I think this time is different because immediately — the same day as the shooting — I immediately went on Fox News, in fact, and talked about how this needed to be different, how this could not be just another mass shooting.”

CBS’ Nancy Cordes asked him to respond to a tweet from President Donald Trump blaming Democrats — inaccurately — for failing to pass legislation to prevent gun massacres.

“President Trump, you control the House of Representatives, you control the Senate, and you control the executive,” Hogg said. “You haven’t taken a single bill for mental health care or gun control and passed it, and that’s pathetic. We’ve seen a government shut down. We’ve seen tax reform. But nothing to save our children’s lives. Are you kidding me? You think now is the time to focus on the past and not the future to prevent the deaths of thousands of other children? You sicken me.”

A website for the march reads in part: “March For Our Lives is created by, inspired by, and led by students across the country who will no longer risk their lives waiting for someone else to take action to stop the epidemic of mass school shootings that has become all too familiar.”

“This is a case of simple– Please stop!” Emma Gonzalez, a senior at Stoneman who delivered a powerful speech on the politics of gun legislation Saturday, said. “Please stop allowing us to be gunned down in our hallways.”

“People are telling us that we should run for president. We want an education. At this point we are trying so desperately hard to communicate what we are feeling and so many people are listening to us.”

She told ABC’s Martha Raddatz: “The people who are out there, the kids who need to take part in this, are everyday kids just like us. They are students who need to understand that this can very quickly happen to them, and we’re doing everything within our power to prevent it from happening to them, but they need to join us and they need to help us get our message across.”

“We want to give them the opportunity to be on the right side of this,” she said of politicians currently accepting donations from the National Rifle Association, including President Donald Trump and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL).
 
Trump is guilty as fuck. his actions say it all and are those of a guilty man. reminds me of that dude from power. I think his name was Mike. cac was crooked and had the WOAT poker face

we all know something’s up. i just hope there’s enough evidence to prove it
 
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livew...-ties-says-genies-out-of-the-bottle-on-ar-15s

Rubio Defends NRA Ties, Says ‘Genie’s Out Of The Bottle’ On AR-15s

During a tense interview aired Sunday, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) again rejected many Floridians’ criticism that certain gun control laws would have prevented Wednesday’s mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

He also defended his ties to the National Rifle Association, and blamed congressional inaction regarding such mass shootings on “people just mov[ing] on.”

Rubio hasn’t personally attempted to address mass shootings through legislation, he said, because “we don’t fully understand everything that could’ve been done to prevent this.”

Much of the mourning following the shooting at Stoneman Douglas, which left 17 dead and more injured, transformed with surprising speed into passionate political advocacy. And, perhaps aside from President Donald Trump, more of that passion has been directed at Rubio, a large beneficiary of the gun lobby’s support, than anyone else.

“I see this reported, it’s unfair, I’ve never said we can’t do anything,” Rubio said, repeating a point he made on the Senate floor Thursday. He added: “What I have said is that the proposals out there would not have prevented it, and that’s a fact.”

WFOR’s Jim DeFede asked Rubio about his vote against legislation to ban magazines that hold 10 or more rounds of ammunition.

Rubio said there wasn’t any evidence the ban would prevent mass shootings, and added that “there are legitimate reasons why people want those–”

“What is a legitimate reason for an AR-15 to be able to have 30 or 50 rounds in a clip,” DeFede interjected.

“Well, first of all, they don’t have 50. The second reason is people that are in– whether it’s sport shooting, or, for example they are used in hunting, I heard somebody say yesterday that they’re not.”

“And so the rationale is that they use those, and if you have to reload every time, it would affect either the sport shooting aspect or the hunting aspect,” he continued. “Now, the details of that bill had other things in it that were beyond the magazine capacity.”


The senator pointed, as he did several times, to a 2015 Washington Post fact check that concluded: “It is possible that some gun-control proposals, such as a ban on large-capacity magazines, would reduce the number of dead in a future shooting, though the evidence for that is heavily disputed. But Rubio was speaking in the past, about specific incidents. He earns a rare Geppetto Checkmark.”

Asked about a ban on guns like the AR-15, the semi-automatic assault rifle alleged to have been used in Parkland, Rubio said: “Number one, the law would not prevent these mass shootings. Number two, there are millions of them in the street already. They’re here to stay. The genie’s out of the bottle.”

He added: “That said, do I believe it should be harder to get one? Do I believe it should be impossible for someone to get one if they are under the condition that the shooter was in Parkland? Absolutely. And one of the problems we have there is we don’t have the complete mental health picture in the background check system.”

Rubio brought up that same point later in the interview: “I don’t think people like this guy or people like him should have any gun. Not an AR-15, any gun. We need to create a system that keeps them from getting it. We don’t have one now that does that. That’s what I’m in favor of.”

“So who’s going to take the lead on that?” DeFede pressed. “Are you?

“I’m prepared to take the lead, and others are–” Rubio began.

DeFede tried again: “Am I going to see a Rubio bill about this?”

“You should,” Rubio said. “You should.”

“But will I?”

“What I’m trying to tell you is that I don’t have that bill yet. Because we don’t fully understand everything that could’ve been done to prevent this,” he said, adding that it was “not a simple thing like there’s one idea and if you do this one thing, this’ll never happen again.”

“We need to take the time — and not forever — but we need to take time to understand what that is,” he said.

Rubio said later that Congress needed to “come up with ideas — not just one, but many, that solve this,” noting that the Senate had tried to address gun control in 2013 and failed.

“Okay, that’s five years ago, and how many mass shootings have we had since then?” DeFede asked.

“Several,” Rubio said. “And why hasn’t it? I don’t know the answer. Part of it, I think, is people just move on. The news moves on, society moves on, and politicians move on.”


Multiple times in the interview, DeFede Brought up the NRA, at one point saying Rubio’s continents believed he wouldn’t make progress on gun legislation “in part because you don’t want to anger the NRA.”

“First of all, they support my agenda, I don’t support theirs,” he replied. “These are the things I stand for and I always have. So it is logical in American politics that if you believe in a certain set of ideas, the people who support the ideas will advocate on your behalf, and by the way, the people that are against it would advocate against you.”

There is one gun control measure Rubio told DeFede he supports, one he wouldn’t have to vote on it either way: a state level proposal to allow police, with a judge’s order, to remove guns from the homes of individuals suspected of being mentally unfit to handle them.

“That is an example of a state law, that in this case, if it has been used could have prevented this,” the senator said.
 


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/parklan...-best-way-to-deal-with-this-is-to-ignore-him/

Parkland Student Emma Gonzalez on Trump’s FBI Tweet: ‘Best Way to Deal With This Is to Ignore Him’

Parkland student Emma Gonzalez––who delivered that impassioned speech yesterday calling out President Trump and the NRA––talked on MSNBC this afternoon about young people taking action in lieu of elected officials actually doing anything.

Gonzalez and Sofie Whitney talked to Alex Witt about the March for Our Lives being set up for next month pressuring lawmakers to actually take action on guns.

So far, Gonzalez said, she has not yet heard from government officials about their plans to deal with this issue. Whitney said they’re going to Tallahassee with many of their classmates to talk to their state representatives in a few days.

During the interview, Witt brought up the President’s tweet attacking the FBI in the Russia probe by invoking the shooting

Gonzalez said this in response:

I think the best way to deal with this is to ignore him. He’s not… he’s not being, um––I think we can all agree that the things that President Trump tweets is… nothing really has a lasting impact, unless it’s a negative lasting impact, on the people around us. At this point especially, the things that he mentions when he brings up talk of the FBI––he’s trying to blame somebody and we can’t let him do that. So the best thing for us to do is to ignore him and to continue fighting our fight, the fight that he refuses to acknowledge. The fact that he refused to even tweet the word ‘gun’ in any of his tweets, and yet he insists on tweeting. And he insists on blaming the Democrats for something that he did wrong.”
 


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rush-li...ors-bashing-the-nra-doesnt-solve-the-problem/

Rush Limbaugh: Student Survivors ‘Bashing the NRA’ Doesn’t Solve the Problem

Rush Limbaugh spoke with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday today in a rare TV interview reacting to the Parkland school shooting.

Limbaugh spoke with Wallace immediately following Wallace’s interview with student survivors of the shooting, who are calling for marches next month to call on legislators to take serious action on gun control.

One of those students, Cameron Kasky, directly told Wallace, “This isn’t about the red and blue, the GOP and the Democrats, this is about adults and kids. At this point, you are either with us or against us… In the next election we are saying if you are accepting money from the NRA, there is a badge of shame on you because you are enabling things like this to happen.”

Limbaugh started by saying, “You have to feel for them. This has wrecked their lives.”

But he took issue with the overall focus on guns here, saying, “I couldn’t care less about the gun angle of this.”

“Prayers and condolences don’t solve it,” Limbaugh said, “and marches aren’t going to solve it. Chris, the next shooter is out there. The next shooter probably has the gun that he’s going to use… How is anything that we’re talking about going to stop that?”

He continued:

“These students think they’re taking politics out of this. The minute they bash the NRA, it’s politics… This is an event that advances a political agenda for the American left and the Democrat party. Bash the NRA.”
 
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/7-year-olds-are-selling-ar-15-raffle-tickets-for-their-baseball-team/

7-Year-Olds Are Selling AR-15 Raffle Tickets for Their Baseball Team

Elementary school students are still selling raffle tickets for a AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, just days after the same weapon was used to kill 17 people at a Florida high school. The boys, ages 7 to 9, were raising money for their baseball team in Missouri, according to a new St. Louis Post-Dispatch report.

Team coach Levi Patterson told the outlet the raffle was designed before Wednesday’s mass shooting. A father of one of the kids co-founded a firearm company, and provided the weapon for the team’s use. Patterson said he wasn’t trying to make a political statement by offering the AR-15. He was just offering what had been provided..

At first, he thought about getting a new item for the raffle, but choose to “turn it into a positive thing” after receiving “hate” online.

“One of the people from the hate group turned in [a Facebook post about the raffle] for I don’t know what,” Patterson said. This post depicted a weapon next to a school logo, and Facebook took it down after criticism, Patterson said. He clarified after initial publication of that article that he didn’t mean to say the critics were part of a “hate group.” They were just people were different opinions.

“I applaud them for standing up for what they believe in,” he said. “I just think they have feelings to this specific type of gun different than people around here do.” In a reported Facebook message on Wednesday, Patterson insisted that they would not force any of the boys to sell raffle tickets if the kids “are uncomfortable doing so.” He said all his players are selling.

Only in America...
 


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CNN Contributor on ‘Cultural Shift’ Surrounding School Shootings: Look at Movies and ‘Rap Industry’

While talking about the horrific Parkland school shooting, CNN contributor Andre Bauer looked at the “cultural” angle:

We have a culture thing here that we’re not discussing. I mean, when I grew up it was Andy Griffith and you never had school shootings and we still had prayer in school and we drove to school with guns in the car… Today, we are in a different time when the movie industry, the rap industry, radio in general talks about these things that are common now and we have almost desensitized it. Now we have to worry about kids eating Tide Pods instead of discipline. We go after parents who discipline their children. When I was in school, the principal had a paddle. It was called the Board of Education, and he used it on all the students. We have changed the mindset today and so it’s scary now that students would even contemplate this type of behavior. We have a cultural shift.

Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin recently made similar comments about the culture, invoking violent video games.

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I wish those kids the best n i hope they do make change. Those deep red states dont give af tho. Hopefully this will swing all the swing states blue n the dems can make real change to the gun laws. Doubt it tho
 
There's people already claiming these kids are coached to push a leftist agenda. Shit makes you pessimistic about the future cause there's so many dumb fucks in this country
 
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