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What was he supposed to do for her? He gave her so many opportunities and she kept screwing him over

I agree with you whole heartedly that's why I was displeased with this season. I hated the way she kept going at him.

Still he owed it to her, considering she looked to him as a father figure after he indirectly/directly (sorry I can't remember) got hers killed, to handle her better when the shit with frank Jr happened. Marty was supposed to hold her down better and protect her even if he was out of his element cause that was the word he gave.
 
They should have went Marty',s way imo..,

Backed Navarro.....


I hate that they backed the sister......
I dug it cuz it just further underscores how criminal enterprises (including the govt) are just revolving doors. You may stop the players, but the game will never end. Feds made deals with like a dozen ppl this season. Didn't matter who long as they got what they wanted.
 
I think that was the whole point tho honestly... folks were hoping for a good ending and for the shitty people to pay for all the shitty things theyve done... lol that aint how America works

I don't see it that way, because realistically Marty should've died in Season 1, but they need a story.

There's a difference in storytelling between what should happen and what has to happen to advance a story and what writers want happen.

By the end of Season 4, the Byrds should've gotten the axe.

It's like in the Sopranos, when Tony dies off screen.

After all the shit Tony did, and all the enemies he made, what else is supposed to happen? Is he gonna live happily ever after, no. He did too much shit. Has too many loose ends throughout the story, all of that is going to fall back on him because there is no other way to end the story in a satisfying manner.

In Ozarks, given what we know about the Byrds, there's no other way the story can end.

And Ozarks says, "Hold up, let's not get rid of the Byrds because we don't want to, even though this is how the story should end."

If the Byrds were smart and capable, I could understand the ending. If the Byrds were exceptionally shrewd and were able to tie up loose ends cleanly, then I could understand the ending. If the Byrds were whisked away from danger, I could understand the ending.

But the Ozark writers basically were like, everyone gets what coming to them except the Byrds because we like them. I really think the writers just love the Byrds so much so they couldn't bare anything bad happening to them. Marty being emasculated and constantly compromising is okay and has no consequences. Wendy being bat shit crazy is okay and has no consequences. Marty's kids are making college plans. Everything is fine...yet we spend 4 seasons with everything not being fine, with their family falling apart and them being in mortal danger. So I am like, what the fuck was the point of the story?

What kind of story are you trying to tell? That incompetent criminals can get away with extraordinary crimes?
Here's some average ass White people violating the RICO act and getting away with it because y'all (meaning the writers) wanted them to?

Marty has similar characteristics to Jon Snow in regards of how he is treated within the story and his relationship with others. I hated Jon Snow. One of the worst heroes I ever seen.

Jon Snow in Game of Thrones simply exists to move plot. He has no real objections to anything going on in the story. or anything happening to him. He just deals with it. He is resigned to his fate. He doesn't learn anything, he doesn't change in regards to how he deals with the shit that is happening to him, he's just like, "Fuck it, this is my life. I am Jon Snow, and I don't know what the fuck is going on, I'm just trying to make it to another day and hopefully get out of this." While everyone else around him is learning, has ambitions and doing shit and changing and yet he wants nothing to do with it. He does what people tell him to do, reluctantly.
 
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I don't see it that way, because realistically Marty should've died in Season 1, but they need a story.

There's a difference in storytelling between what should happen and what has to happen to advance a story and what writers want happen.

By the end of Season 4, the Byrds should've gotten the axe.

It's like in the Sopranos, when Tony dies off screen.

After all the shit Tony did, and all the enemies he made, what else is supposed to happen? Is he gonna live happily ever after, no. He did too much shit. Has too many loose ends throughout the story, all of that is going to fall back on him because there is no other way to end the story in a satisfying manner.

In Ozarks, given what we know about the Byrds, there's no other way the story can end.
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And Ozarks says, "Hold up, let's not get rid of the Byrds because we don't want to, even though this is how the story should end."

If the Byrds were smart and capable, I could understand the ending. If the Byrds were exceptionally shrewd and were able to tie up loose ends cleanly, then I could understand the ending. If the Byrds were whisked away from danger, I could understand the ending.

But the Ozark writers basically were like, everyone gets what coming to them except the Byrds because we like them. I really think the writers just love the Byrds so much so they couldn't bare anything bad happening to them. Marty being emasculated and constantly compromising is okay and has no consequences. Wendy being bat shit crazy is okay and has no consequences. Marty's kids are making college plans. Everything is fine...yet we spend 4 seasons with everything not being fine, with their family falling apart and them being in mortal danger. So I am like, what the fuck was the point of the story?

What kind of story are you trying to tell? That incompetent criminals can get away with extraordinary crimes?
Here's some average ass White people violating the RICO act and getting away with it because y'all (meaning the writers) wanted them to?

Marty has similar characteristics to Jon Snow in regards of how he is treated within the story and his relationship with others. I hated Jon Snow. One of the worst heroes I ever seen.

Jon Snow in Game of Thrones simply exists to move plot. He has no real objections to anything going on in the story. or anything happening to him. He just deals with it. He is resigned to his fate. He doesn't learn anything, he doesn't change in regards to how he deals with the shit that is happening to him, he's just like, "Fuck it, this is my life. I am Jon Snow, and I don't know what the fuck is going on, I'm just trying to make it to another day and hopefully get out of this." While everyone else around him is learning, has ambitions and doing shit and changing and yet he just reacts.

seems like they spelled it out pretty clear to me in the last scene.. retired cop says to them straight... after all the shit yall did.. you dont get to win.. you dont get to have a happy ending..the world doesnt work like that.

Wendy: "Since when?"

then you hear the gun cock and know that yep... theyre gonna win even if they dont deserve to

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The Byrds aint shit... but most folks in positions of power aint shit and have done fucked up shit to secure their positions
 
seems like they spelled it out pretty clear to me in the last scene.. retired cop says to them straight... after all the shit yall did.. you dont get to win.. you dont get to have a happy ending..the world doesnt work like that.

Wendy: "Since when?"

then you hear the gun cock and know that yep... theyre gonna win even if they dont deserve to

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The Byrds aint shit... but most folks in positions of power aint shit and have done fucked up shit to secure their positions
Bro the one thing we know will for sure get rich cacs locked is ironically money laundering and financial crimes
 
Ruth low-key gave up the Byrd's...

By asking who gave her up, she implied more people than Claire knew
 
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The more I think about the ending, the more I like it. Whole show is basically the Byrde empire origin story. Where the series ends isn't the end. It's a turning point. Wendy and Marty are gonna do what they do so they can hand the keys over to Jonah and Charlotte. Who will marry some politician's kid and keep expanding their reach that way.
 
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