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toheeb27 said:
LOL, i dont know about u, but i actually like the way Trae Young played today. I am not a Sooner, so i dont care if they win or lose. Trae Young with teammates who could finish would have had 20 assists in this game.
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He was solid. Passed the ball really well but didn't "light up" shit. He looked a little hesitant to shoot. Almost like he knew how bad his percentages were looking and instead elected to hold back for the sake of his stat line/efficiency. They can't win with him being this passive.
 
A.F.R.I.C.A said:
He was solid. Passed the ball really well but didn't "light up" shit. He looked a little hesitant to shoot. Almost like he knew how bad his percentages were looking and instead elected to hold back for the sake of his stat line/efficiency. They can't win with him being this passive.
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Holding back for the sake of Stat line/efficiency, passive???? WTF are u talking about????

Based on the way he was defended, i would rather he found the open teammate instead of jacking up tough shot after tough shot. He could have been a little more aggressive, but with time he will learn how to modulate his offense. We forget, he is a 19 year old freshman.
 
With all that said, i becoming clearer to me that Trae Young will be more of a passer in the NBA. Any team drafting him for his scoring in the NBA with be very disappointed. I would not touch him in the top 10.
 
He's not playing as loose since he started slumping. He's not shooting off the dribble as much haven't seen the floater get much use. He's had opportunities in one on one's and looks hesitant to find his own shot where as earlier in the year he was just letting it fly.

These teams are daring him to give it up and make his teammates beat them. They can't win unless Trae has it going as both a passer and a scorer. He's being asked to do too much against the best competition in college basketball. I think when he gets to the pros he will feel more comfortable with a wider court and a much more reliable supporting cast.
 
Yeah,I knew they was abt to lose they Championship banner after paying for prostitutes. Then the F.B.I came and found money being exchanged,that was just icing on the cake.prostities
 
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By the time punishments and probations are handed out Cleveland State may end up being ranked #1.......on the real....I wonder how severe some of the punishment will be.

The link is below because the article exceeds 1000 characters, so the key points are posted below

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclus...g-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

Exclusive: Federal documents detail sweeping potential NCAA violations involving high-profile players, schools

Documents and bank records obtained in discovery during the federal investigation into the underbelly of college basketball detail in meticulous fashion the expenditures of prominent former NBA agent Andy Miller, his former associate Christian Dawkins and his agency, ASM Sports. They include expense reports and balance sheets that list cash advances, as well as entertainment and travel expenses for high school and college prospects and their families.

While three criminal cases tied to the investigation may take years to play out, the documents viewed by Yahoo revealed the extent of the potential NCAA ramifications from the case. The documents show an underground recruiting operation that could create NCAA rules issues – both current and retroactive – for at least 20 Division I basketball programs and more than 25 players.

The documents tie some of the biggest names and programs in the sport to activity that appears to violate the NCAA’s amateurism rules. This could end up casting a pall over the NCAA tournament because of eligibility issues. (NCAA officials declined a request for comment.) There’s potential impermissible benefits and preferential treatment for players and families of players at Duke, North Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Michigan State, USC, Alabama and a host of other schools. The documents link some of the sport’s biggest current stars – Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, Alabama’s Collin Sexton and Duke’s Wendell Carter – to specific potential extra benefits for either the athletes or their family members. The amounts tied to all of the players in the case range from basic meals to tens of thousands of dollars.

An ASM balance sheet in the hands of federal investigators shows accounts through Dec. 31, 2015, with the subheading, “Loan to Players.” It listed several who were in high school or college as receiving four-figure and five-figure payments from ASM Sports. Among the largest listed loans:
  • Dennis Smith, who would go on to play at North Carolina State in 2016-17, received $43,500 according to the documents. Another document headed “Pina,” for ASM agent Stephen Pina, says Smith received a total of $73,500 in loans, and includes notes about “options to recoup the money” when Smith did not sign with ASM.
  • Isaiah Whitehead, at the time a freshman at Seton Hall, received $26,136 according to the documents. The “Pina” document says Whitehead received $37,657 and was “setting up payment plan.” Whitehead signed with ASM but later left the agency for Roc Nation.
  • Tim Quarterman, at the time a junior at LSU, received at least $16,000, according to the balance sheet.
  • Diamond Stone, at the time a freshman at Maryland, received $14,303 according to the documents.
  • A listing that refers to “BAM” for $12,000 is later identified in the documents as Edrice “Bam” Adebayo, who would go on to play at Kentucky in 2016-17. He did not sign with ASM. There’s a later reference to Adebayo that says he received $36,500. “Bad loan,” reads the document.
  • Markelle Fultz, who would go on to play at Washington and become the No. 1 pick in the 2017 draft, received $10,000 according to the documents. He did not sign with ASM.
Yahoo Sports reached out to officials at N.C. State, Seton Hall, Maryland, Kentucky and Washington. They all declined comment or did not return correspondence.

In addition, Dawkins filed expense reports seeking reimbursement for thousands of dollars that he reported as being paid to college and high school players and their families. Several players, families of players or handlers received more than $1,000 in payments from ASM Sports before turning professional:
  • Current USC player Bennie Boatwright and/or his father, Bennie Sr. (According to documents, they received at least $2,000.)
  • Current USC player Chimezie Metu and/or adviser, Johnnie Parker. (According to documents, they received $2,000.)
  • Current Texas player Eric Davis. (According to documents, he received $1,500.)
  • Current South Carolina player Brian Bowen, who was ensnared in the initial federal investigation and started his career at Louisville last fall until the school withheld him from competition. His father, Brian Sr., also received money, according to the documents. (Dawkins’ expense reports also list more than $1,500 in plane tickets for Bowen, his father and his mother. He and his family received at least $7,000 in benefits, according to the documents.)
  • Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.
  • Former South Carolina player P.J. Dozier received at least $6,115 while in school, according to the documents.
  • Former Xavier player Edmond Sumner and/or his father, Ernest. Documents show they received at least $7,000 in advances while Edmond was in school.
  • Former Wichita State player Fred VanVleet. Documents show he received at least $1,000.
  • Former Clemson player Jaron Blossomgame received a payment by Venmo while in school for $1,100 according to the documents.
  • Apples Jones, the mother of former Kansas player Josh Jackson, received $2,700 according to documents.
Among those receiving hundreds of dollars in advances, according to Dawkins’ expense reports:
  • The mother of current Michigan State player Miles Bridges
Among the players and/or families who are listed as meeting with or having meals with Dawkins:
  • Current Alabama player Collin Sexton.
  • Current Duke player Wendell Carter.
  • Current Kentucky player Kevin Knox.
  • Former North Carolina player Tony Bradley.
  • Former Creighton player Justin Patton.
  • Former Texas player Prince Ibeh.
  • Former Notre Dame player Demetrius Jackson.
  • Former Vanderbilt player Wade Baldwin.
  • Former Virginia player Malcolm Brogdon.
  • Former Iowa State player Monte Morris.
The breadth of names, schools and current players could offer a vexing test for both university compliance offices and the NCAA’s enforcement division. The sheer number of potential cases and varying degrees of potential violations are vast. There’s also an overriding factor of the ongoing criminal investigations. A complicating facet to this will be the NCAA’s potential inability to view key documents related to this case, because those details not in the criminal complaints are sealed under protective order. In terms of eligibility, the NCAA and the institution may be prohibited from interviewing people associated with the case because of the parallel criminal cases. (The initial onus to decide is almost always on the school in an eligibility case).

Yahoo did not view all of the documents in the three criminal cases tied to the investigation, but the records show an uncommon amount of detail for activities that have come under federal scrutiny.

For example, the expense reports have hundreds of lines like:
Feb. 10, 2016: “Flight for Brian Bowen mom. Flight for Brian Bowen. Flight for Brian Bowen dad.” They totaled more than $1,500.
Feb. 1, 2016: “Advance to Apples Jones (Josh Jackson) $1,700.”
Jan. 13, 2016: “ATM withdrawl: Advance to Fred Van Vleet $483.”
May 3, 2016: “Redwood Lodge. Lunch w/Miles Bridges Parents. $70.05.”
May 3, 2016: “ATM Withdrawl: Miles Bridges mom advance. $400”

According to the documents, Dawkins has dinners listed with plenty of boldface names in the sport – Tom Izzo, “Villanova coaches,” Fultz and the family of wayward five-star prospect Mitchell Robinson.

Along the way, a portrait emerges of the inner-workings of the office of Miller, who relinquished his NBA Players Association agent certification in the wake of the probe. Miller has yet to be charged in the case, and it’s widely believed he’s cooperating with the government. Dawkins’ lawyer, Steve Haney, told Yahoo Sports earlier in the week it was “utter hypocrisy” that an underling like Dawkins and the four assistant coaches were charged in the case and their superiors have gone unscathed. Haney added on Thursday night in an email statement: “These are college eligibility issues and agent licensing issues, not matters of national security that deserve this level of FBI involvement and taxpayer resources…..it has reached a degree of being ridiculous.”

Dawkins, the 24-year-old former business associate, was arrested on Sept. 26 and faces felony charges of wire fraud and bribery in two of the three criminal cases tied to the investigation. He ended up on federal wiretaps and, soon after the case broke in late September, his rise became a cautionary tale for how vulnerable top coaches and programs are to the agent world.



 
Damn....on the cool as much as I don't like his delivery, Lavar Ball might be able to get college recruits to play for his league in lieu of going to college
 
southsil4lil said:
Eric Davis and Prince Ibeh smh
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Eh, it was just related to that agency idk that the schools necessarily did anything wrong.

Davis got $1500 (chump change compared to others) and there’s no evidence Ibeh got anything. And both of those guys were Barnes recruits.
 
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