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I mean, considering how good Hammer is....

And we all have to agree she is a top talent.....


The way Clarissa pushed the tempo was marvelous.

She literally stepped into a furnace and made the bigger chick scared to get close.


Some of the best bully boxing I've ever seen. That shit was hype
 
@Ethos

I was waiting for someone to bring up the loss, that loss means absolutely fck all, thats the Mayweather effect people cling to these days... It was his 2nd fight and for a world title at that, who fights for a world title in their 2nd fight??? And he was getting punched in balls for most that fight too, he had to adjust to the pro game after nearly 400 amateur bouts in that fight so it took him 6 rounds to get used to Salido's dirty tactics, Loma had him worked out by the end of the fight and could of easily got the decision in the end...

And you saying he cant be the best in the game with 14 fights??? The reason its only 14 fights is because he didnt bother fighting 20 journeymen like most other fighters do, if he had then he would prolly be 30-0... He has a better or atleast good as a record as Spence and Crawford imo...

But lets take the P4P argument out the equation for a second, Loma is the best fighter skillwise BY FAR, his footwork and the way he pivots around his opponents, picks angles and then counters or even leads is BEAUTIFUL, its what fighters do when they are shadow boxing but he actually does it during fights, he leaves fighters facing the wrong direction wondering where punches are coming from, not to mention his judging of distance etc what we see with him is something we only see once in a lifetime, skillwise he is like a modern day Pernell Whitaker... The only thing I see beating him is size, if he ends up going up to welter or super welter then size may beat him, but as it is, he is a head and shoulders above everyone with talent and skill... If its not Teofilo Stevenson then Loma is prolly the greatest amateur of all time too...
 
Shields did look impressive, looks like JDJ has worked on her punching technique... Hammer got exposed though, she couldnt handle pressure in the ring, kept her chin way too high, g0t hurt and looked at the ref... Shows the depth I was talking about in the womens division, Shields had so much more variety in her armoury, her amateur pedigree really show, all Hammer had in there was two punches jab and a straight right...

Hopefully we get to see her against Savannah Marshall, that would be two very schooled fighters... Though Marshall has had a very stop/start career so far...
 
Had to come back to talk about Shields.

Such a great performance.

That's how you do it on a big stage.

I was loving how she just shot her way I'm with the jab... Took hammers best shots up close and proceeded to beat the fuck out of her in the inside.

That shit was so fun to watch. Great great performance.
 
Water Ur Seeds said:
@Ethos

I was waiting for someone to bring up the loss, that loss means absolutely fck all, thats the Mayweather effect people cling to these days... It was his 2nd fight and for a world title at that, who fights for a world title in their 2nd fight??? And he was getting punched in balls for most that fight too, he had to adjust to the pro game after nearly 400 amateur bouts in that fight so it took him 6 rounds to get used to Salido's dirty tactics, Loma had him worked out by the end of the fight and could of easily got the decision in the end...

And you saying he cant be the best in the game with 14 fights??? The reason its only 14 fights is because he didnt bother fighting 20 journeymen like most other fighters do, if he had then he would prolly be 30-0... He has a better or atleast good as a record as Spence and Crawford imo...

But lets take the P4P argument out the equation for a second, Loma is the best fighter skillwise BY FAR, his footwork and the way he pivots around his opponents, picks angles and then counters or even leads is BEAUTIFUL, its what fighters do when they are shadow boxing but he actually does it during fights, he leaves fighters facing the wrong direction wondering where punches are coming from, not to mention his judging of distance etc what we see with him is something we only see once in a lifetime, skillwise he is like a modern day Pernell Whitaker... The only thing I see beating him is size, if he ends up going up to welter or super welter then size may beat him, but as it is, he is a head and shoulders above everyone with talent and skill... If its not Teofilo Stevenson then Loma is prolly the greatest amateur of all time too...
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You were waiting but didnt comprehende what I said. I said the loss doesn't matter BUT he hasn't fought a pressure type fighter since. I agree on his footwork but he looked ordinary against linares imo. Hopefully mikey can make weight cause he destroys him. Lomo cool but not p4p #1 imho.
 
Ethos said:
You were waiting but didnt comprehende what I said. I said the loss doesn't matter BUT he hasn't fought a pressure type fighter since. I agree on his footwork but he looked ordinary against linares imo. Hopefully mikey can make weight cause he destroys him. Lomo cool but not p4p #1 imho.
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People said that about Mayweather because Castillo gave him a rough night, it never happened... The only reason Loma lost to Saildo was because he was simply not used to the pro ranks and the dirty tactics that come with it but like I said he had him worked out by the end of the fight anyways... IMO any pressure fighter in and around lightweight would get seriously lit up by Loma now, he would pivot and counter all night long... But boxing is all about opinions...
 
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https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-soon-i-highest-paid-athlete-world--137963

Wilder: Soon I Will Be The Highest Paid Athlete in The World!

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder expects to eventually become the highest paid athlete in the world.

Last fall, Wilder was offered a $15 million flat fee to face IBF, WBA, WBO, IBO world champion Anthony Joshua in a high profile unification.

Only a few months later, he was offered well over $100 million for a multi-fight deal by DAZN, with $40 million for a Joshua fight.

Wilder will return to the ring on May 18th, when he faces mandatory challenger Dominic Breazeale at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York City.

In the immediate future, he would like to secure a rematch with Tyson Fury, and also the unification with Joshua.

"It won't be difficult for me to make those fights with Fury and Joshua. I'm betting on myself. I move as I please. Those guys, they have to do as they are told. I make commands and demands. They take them. That's the difference between me and them. I'm like the wild card in all this. I move where I want. I can move freely. Soon I will be the highest paid athlete in the world. If no one believes it, just watch. You'll see. The DAZN deal wasn't right. You can't do a deal if you don't know the other parts of the deal. If information is withheld from you, how can you proceed further?," Wilder said to Daily Mail.

'I am not in the business of just trying to take some money because you see a number. That's not me. That's never been me. I look at the bigger picture. You sell me a number and I know there's going to be a bigger number than that. They saw a guy they thought they could throw some money at and that would be it but they found out the hard way. We came in serious and we were looking for serious answers and we didn't get them and for that reason we had to leave until a further time."

Making those fights are easier said than done.

Fury is aligned with ESPN, as part of his exclusive co-promotional deal with Top Rank. And Joshua is linked to DAZN, while Wilder is under the Premier Boxing Champions banner - who work with Showtime and Fox Sports.

"Boxing's like the weather: it can change instantly. Although everybody is split up going different ways, the greatest thing about this situation with all three of us is that the doors are still open. Talks are still being talked. Negotiations are still in session. After the three of us fight these fights, it's time for real serious negotiations. Real serious talks. No playing around. I don't have time to play around. I have got a lot of things going on in my life, the correct way. What's owed to me will come to me," Wilder said.

"I want to fight those guys. I want to see one champion, one face, one name. I want to see it done the right way, the fair way. We can go away and say we did it, we can hug it out, and we can go back and support our families.'
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Water Ur Seeds said:
People said that about Mayweather because Castillo gave him a rough night, it never happened... The only reason Loma lost to Saildo was because he was simply not used to the pro ranks and the dirty tactics that come with it but like I said he had him worked out by the end of the fight anyways... IMO any pressure fighter in and around lightweight would get seriously lit up by Loma now, he would pivot and counter all night long... But boxing is all about opinions...
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So he didnt have enough fights as a pro or he had a lot at amateur? Make up your mind. Not making sense. We will see, but a fighter like porter or Madiana style will eat him that is decent. Salcido not even on their level. Once again he hasn't fought anyone like that since for a reason. Matchmaking is real my friend.. dont even talk about Mayweather Castillo. Nigga had a torm rotator in his shoulder and made him look foolish 2nd time. Stop it
 
Ethos said:
So he didnt have enough fights as a pro or he had a lot at amateur? Make up your mind. Not making sense.
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Bro are you serious??? Both... The pro ranks and the amateur ranks are like two completely different sports, especially when you getting punched in the balls for 12 rounds... He had hadnt had enough pro experience to deal with Salido's roughhouse tactics (though like i said he had him worked out by the end) DUE to him having spent so many years and in the amateur code and crazy amounts of amateur fights (something crazy like 400-1)...

The fact is Saildo could of been DQ'd but regardless Loma could of still got the decision and would had prolly done a UD had fight gone another 2 rounds and Saildo refused to give him rematch straight after if memory serves me correct...
 
Loma gets no passes for that loss.


He lost. Plain and simple
 
Duwop said:
Loma gets no passes for that loss.


He lost. Plain and simple
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Who asking for a pass??? Its simply reasoning... You do realise Salido was like 20ibs heavier too right??? He should have also been DQ'd, plus it was Loma's second fight so it took him 5 rounds or so to figure out veteran tactics...
 
And Porter is prolly about 15ibs heavyweight then Loma but the fact you think he would he would 'eat' Loma shows your off your meds, Loma would school him... Maidana is about 300ibs these days so maybe he already has eaten Loma...
 
Bro I said style of fighting not fighting them per se. I think we done with this convo. You the one brought up his amateur fighting. Re read what you said. Even quoted it for you below.
 
Water Ur Seeds said:
@Ethos

I was waiting for someone to bring up the loss, that loss means absolutely fck all, thats the Mayweather effect people cling to these days... It was his 2nd fight and for a world title at that, who fights for a world title in their 2nd fight??? And he was getting punched in balls for most that fight too, he had to adjust to the pro game after nearly 400 amateur bouts in that fight so it took him 6 rounds to get used to Salido's dirty tactics, Loma had him worked out by the end of the fight and could of easily got the decision in the end...

And you saying he cant be the best in the game with 14 fights??? The reason its only 14 fights is because he didnt bother fighting 20 journeymen like most other fighters do, if he had then he would prolly be 30-0... He has a better or atleast good as a record as Spence and Crawford imo...

But lets take the P4P argument out the equation for a second, Loma is the best fighter skillwise BY FAR, his footwork and the way he pivots around his opponents, picks angles and then counters or even leads is BEAUTIFUL, its what fighters do when they are shadow boxing but he actually does it during fights, he leaves fighters facing the wrong direction wondering where punches are coming from, not to mention his judging of distance etc what we see with him is something we only see once in a lifetime, skillwise he is like a modern day Pernell Whitaker... The only thing I see beating him is size, if he ends up going up to welter or super welter then size may beat him, but as it is, he is a head and shoulders above everyone with talent and skill... If its not Teofilo Stevenson then Loma is prolly the greatest amateur of all time too...
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