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The Lonious Monk said:
That's what makes them ducking these big fights even worse. Like Crawford didn't even need to promote the Spence fight. Everyone in the boxing world was doing that for him.
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Boxing is down bad in terms of getting fights in a good timely manner. Spence, Crawford, Charlo, Loma, Teo, Ryan Garica, Haymon, Arum, GPB, Hearn, HBO, ESPN, Fox Sports, Showtime, CBS, etc all plays a huge part in boxing being fucked up.

If fights were made when they are supposed to shit like those Paul bros spectacles wouldn't even be getting any money or shine.

Think about it if they fight Spence will be 33 and Crawford 35 when they fight the biggest of their careers. Ray Leonard was 24 when he fought Duran and 25 against Hearns and Hearns was 23. Shit like that really shows how much bullshit boxing is on right now.

There is no valid reason for fighters to be fighting their biggest fights outside of their primes.

I respect the business of boxing but all those involved can't forget that it is a competitive sport as well.
 
DMorgan said:
Boxing is down bad in terms of getting fights in a good timely manner. Spence, Crawford, Charlo, Loma, Teo, Ryan Garica, Haymon, Arum, GPB, Hearn, HBO, ESPN, Fox Sports, Showtime, CBS, etc all plays a huge part in boxing being fucked up.

If fights were made when they are supposed to shit like those Paul bros spectacles wouldn't even be getting any money or shine.

Think about it if they fight Spence will be 33 and Crawford 35 when they fight the biggest of their careers. Ray Leonard was 24 when he fought Duran and 25 against Hearns and Hearns was 23. Shit like that really shows how much bullshit boxing is on right now.

There is no valid reason for fighters to be fighting their biggest fights outside of their primes.

I respect the business of boxing but all those involved can't forget that it is a competitive sport as well.
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That’s the same issue I have. Fight when both of you are at your peak.
 
Nov 1, 2022
Terence Crawford finally breaks his silence on why the errol spence jr fight fell thru. As Crawford calls Spence Jr a liar about what happened and says that PBC and Spence were trying to screw him over with no guarantees in the proposed Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford fight. As Crawford says he called Spence personally to try to make the fight with two other business entities for 20 million guaranteed in which he was told by Al Haymon that they wouldn't let that happen.
 
This nigga bud a free agent so he tried to get the mob to fund the fight instead of going thru the contracted promotion company Spence helped build 🤦🏿‍♂️

Like Spence and PBC already got money invested into these future fights... Bud is acting like booster money is the same as invested money in your own brand.

When Floyd contacted Manny, he was paying him money out his own pocket to get out the 1 fight contract with top rank. Bud is literally asking Spence to violate his contract with a company that has done right by him, and he's invested to, and he helped build, for one fight with money coming from hedge fund boosters....

But niggaz still think Bud the business man knows what he is doing.

Like others said... He's not even promoting the fight he does have. Dude is great in the ring... But outside. That ain't it.

He talking about no guaranteed money in the biggest fight if the year. Even though he claims he accepted the terms. So if you accepted it, how is that the reason the fight fell apart?
 
Duwop said:
This nigga bud a free agent so he tried to get the mob to fund the fight instead of going thru the contracted promotion company Spence helped build 🤦🏿‍♂️

Like Spence and PBC already got money invested into these future fights... Bud is acting like booster money is the same as invested money in your own brand.

When Floyd contacted Manny, he was paying him money out his own pocket to get out the 1 fight contract with top rank. Bud is literally asking Spence to violate his contract with a company that has done right by him, and he's invested to, and he helped build, for one fight with money coming from hedge fund boosters....

But niggaz still think Bud the business man knows what he is doing.

Like others said... He's not even promoting the fight he does have. Dude is great in the ring... But outside. That ain't it.

He talking about no guaranteed money in the biggest fight if the year. Even though he claims he accepted the terms. So if you accepted it, how is that the reason the fight fell apart?
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Duwop said:
This nigga bud a free agent so he tried to get the mob to fund the fight instead of going thru the contracted promotion company Spence helped build 🤦🏿‍♂️

Like Spence and PBC already got money invested into these future fights... Bud is acting like booster money is the same as invested money in your own brand.

When Floyd contacted Manny, he was paying him money out his own pocket to get out the 1 fight contract with top rank. Bud is literally asking Spence to violate his contract with a company that has done right by him, and he's invested to, and he helped build, for one fight with money coming from hedge fund boosters....

But niggaz still think Bud the business man knows what he is doing.

Like others said... He's not even promoting the fight he does have. Dude is great in the ring... But outside. That ain't it.

He talking about no guaranteed money in the biggest fight if the year. Even though he claims he accepted the terms. So if you accepted it, how is that the reason the fight fell apart?
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Got some more info on the bold? First time seeing this.
 
Like Bud completely disregarding EVERYTHING that comes with the fight with Spence.

Spence got contracts with Showtime PPV.

MOTHER FUCKING SHOWTIME!!!

1. OUTSIDE of the actual fight money, we KNOW showtime gonna drop an Emmy quality docu-series highlighting both guys in the biggest fight of the year. That's extra money in your fucking pocket bud. That's more high level exposure Bud. You doing ig live....we talking interviews building the fight up on showtime 🤦🏿‍♂️


2. Where the fuck these mysterious investors putting the fight at? What ppv service they using? What platforms they using to promote the fight? What's their cut on those things? Bud so worried about up front money, he completely neglected all the money that come afterwards.

3. Bob was right. In the ring he a beast. Outside the ring, Bud don't understand good business. I don't even think he scared to fight the man.. He just ain't got the mind for making a fight like this. And he clearly got bad people around him.
DMorgan said:
Got some more info on the bold? First time seeing this.
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Honestly I don't got the energy to Google the articles...

But Floyd and Manny were trying forever to get the fight going. But it was Bob blocking it, cuz he wanted solo promotion rights.... Or at the least a crazy buy out.... But he never said it... It's evident by what it took to make the fight. It's very close to this... But it's was much more official.

Where Bud saying he got investors....

Floyd and Haymon actually got Showtime and HBO to guarantee the up front purses and co-promote t fight.

HBO agreed to take care of Bob.

But before that happened, Floyd offered Manny like 300m of his own money. 150 up front, 150 at the end too do the fight and let Floyd 100% promote the fight.

Manny was still under contract from Bob, but legally Bob could only sue him for his remaining contract amount.... Which was no where near 300m. In fact Manny would have made more if he took Floyd route... But when Bob caught wind he convinced Manny that the deal was bullshit.

You gotta understand this was pieced together thru like 10-12 articles over mad years....

My whole introduction to online forums like this was through doing our own investigative research on boxing and discussing these articles. That Floyd/Bob beef was CRAZY
 
Damn so Bud Crawford homie Bernie the Boxer did a live where says he Al Haymon is a fairy and Spence been taking it up the ass from Haymon.

SMH if I was Bud I'd slap the shit out that nigga.
 
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