Monk, what is civilization Schools, universities, running water, tamed their animals, literacy, established lights, doctors, etc, All this was going on with the Romans?
If everything existed, why not bring those things to the other parts where they didn't exist, why allow the Moors to take over these areas? The Romans loved invading and conquering land and expanding, that was what their "empire" built upon. So why not take over these parts?
But I ask the questions, where did the Romans get this knowledge to establish a well sound civilization? Who taught them these things? Everybody knows the knowledge lies in Africa, and before the Moors, Romans seem to have the knowledge?? Broke cold, dirty ass Europe had all the knowledge?
I'm trying to follow Monk's imaginary time-line. I tried to tell dude, he needs to do more reading and less projecting with bad context. It's so many holes in what he's saying, using common sense debunks what he's saying.
Romans had this and that before the Moors came into play...Monks, come on man.. you are a better debater than this, make us work