OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

King Du said:
obama was a cool as president, i enjoyed his 8 years it was inspirational and it showed the countries growth. However shit still shit.......

I was happy when the nigga won, but i ain't cry like it was the begin of new days for black america.....i thought niggaz was overacting then......that's why i lvoed that boondocks episode.. shit stay capturing how i feel about shit.....

i used to clown tyler perry movies... i mean i had a few of them cuz i knew chicks liked to watch them... but i clowned them too...got called a hater.....they made fun of that shit too...on fucking point....


this shit no different....i'm making all these points now, and niggaz acting liek they don't get it...

but wait till a black comedian makes fun of the black folk hype from this movie....

let there been a boondocks episode where niggaz weas beeing super extra and animated about seeing the movie...

everybody would laugh their asses off.....cuz they know it's true...

but when i say it now.....i'm reaching....

niggaz take shit so seriously they dno't even see the humor in the silly shit they doing
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Don’t get me wrong I was happy for Obama. The problem with black people is that they viewed Obama’s presence in the White House as something tangible in itself, so he didn’t have to do anything else but be the black president in the White House. Same with this movie they like the symbolism of a majority black cast and crew but who’s still pulling the strings? Who was really pulling the strings while Obama was in office? My point exactly.
 
AP21 said:
no brah

and like i told you, at this stage in my life, i dont need a month for me to research the contributions made by african americans. For some reason, you are trig.....are annoyed and came to the conclusion that this somehow diminishes the relevancy of BHM like they cant BOTH exist simultaneously.

I asked you did you feel a type of way that Deadpool came out during BHM, although they released it, intentionally to coincide with Vday which is also in the month of February? i didnt see you specifically address that, but if you did and i overlooked it, i apologize.

You are presenting a scenario where its "either or" when it can be both.
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because deadpool was not a black character who the black community overreacted to.....

I strongly feel that BP was strategically being released during black history month to capitalize on the commercial mentality of the black americans.....

And I strongly feel that our folk did not disappoint those marketing minds, cuz they bout to treat this with more significance than bhm as a whole.....
 
AP21 said:
so you answered my question, you will only deem something like this significant if say, TP produced and funded it right?
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I answered your question now answer mine. Owned and funded by who?

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AP21 said:
forgot about meteor man

my bad...i have no issue when admitting im wrong about something that can be factually proven
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of course you did, because you're so romanticized by BP it completely erased an actual applaudable moment in black history...

but i'm making this shit up......
 
The same way people portray the extremes of our community..(or those that participate in those extremes disseminate those extremes or lowest common denominator with furvor)

Your are doing the same thing with some peoples exaggerated jubilation of BP... these people are on in the same with Trekkies/StarWars extremist but with a layer of social significance you are doing the same thing and that in no way is representative of the vast majority.... the same same can be said for the negative right.... right
 
IF you expeced 8 years to change conditions that have been placed/created/perfected for 100s of years then i dont know what to tell you..

Martin Luther King had a DREAM.....Dream
 
King Du said:
of course you did, because you're so romanticized by BP it completely erased an actual applaudable moment in black history...

but i'm making this shit up......
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nah b/c meteor man just wasn't that memorable

shrugs
 
Judge Dread said:
With this logic your traditions started when we were brought here. Instead of the ones that started over 2000 years ago.
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Oh, best believe we kept some of our traditions intact.

Why do you think Black churches worship vastly different from white churches? Africans that were brought over as slaves kept some of their old traditions and religious practices intact by mixing them with Christianity.
 
Playmaker88 said:
The same way people portray the extremes of our community..(or those that participate in those extremes disseminate those extremes or lowest common denominator with furvor)

Your are doing the same thing with some peoples exaggerated jubilation of BP... these people are on in the same with Trekkies/StarWars extremist but with a layer of social significance you are doing the same thing and that in no way is representative of the vast majority.... the same same can be said for the negative right.... right
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a lot of it is fake as fuck tho...

like i totally understand comic book heads who been dedicated to BP as a character for 10+ or even 5+ years......that's cool... but the trendy folk who really don't give a fuck about comics or marvel, never watched one MCU movie....who are just going out here to see black people doing cool shit are largely just representing a issue that I feel i've been overly adressing in ths thread, but niggaz seem to be completely obliviosu of it
 
King Du said:
a lot of it is fake as fuck tho...

like i totally understand comic book heads who been dedicated to BP as a character for 10+ or even 5+ years......that's cool... but the trendy folk who really don't give a fuck about comics or marvel, never watched one MCU movie....who are just going out here to see black people doing cool shit are largely just representing a issue that I feel i've been overly adressing in ths thread, but niggaz seem to be completely obliviosu of it
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WHO CARES if they never saw a MCU flick before

1) they gon be lost af if they dont understand how this film affects the rest of the MCU

2) what if this gets them more interested in BP the character and want to read up on him and buy the comics and whatnot

but i guess point no. 2 really dont matter since BP wasnt created by a black person
 
AP21 said:
nah b/c meteor man just wasn't that memorable

shrugs
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you really telling on yourself now.....


shit was damn good movie, and memorable for all the reasons you attaching to am movie that didn't even come out..

but because it didn't have the trendy hype wagon of a marvel production.... it wasn't memorable,,



but it was written and directed by black man, and a character he created.....with an all black cast....i remember the shit outta it....loved it.....


but we can easily shrug it off???
 
AP21 said:
WHO CARES if they never saw a MCU flick before

1) they gon be lost af if they dont understand how this film affects the rest of the MCU

2) what if this gets them more interested in BP the character and want to read up on him and buy the comics and whatnot

but i guess point no. 2 really dont matter since BP wasnt created by a black person
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like i said, they're making too big of an issue out of a movie just cuz the shit looks good....

but people are trendy, black folk are no different i guess,, i think avatar was wack juice ... but it was the highest grossing movie of all time....cuz it was so pretty.....


people like pretty shit......i get it... but separate the pretty from the significance it carries.....just cuz something looks good doesn't make it more important than something that might be a lot more ugly
 
King Du said:
you really telling on yourself now.....


shit was damn good movie, and memorable for all the reasons you attaching to am movie that didn't even come out..

but because it didn't have the trendy hype wagon of a marvel production.... it wasn't memorable,,



but it was written and directed by black man, and a character he created.....with an all black cast....i remember the shit outta it....loved it.....


but we can easily shrug it off???
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nah...you not gon do that

i didnt say it wasnt memorable b/c it wasnt made my marvel. Thor 2 was made by Marvel and it sucked. What else you got?

i watched meteor man a few times, and fam, i hate to tell you, it was just ok. Let me add, in my opinion. Meteor man came out in 93, I was 10. IDK what else to tell you. Then again, you are talking to someone who, when it came out, didnt have the same view on the world as I do today. I appreciate the contributions Robert Townsend made to cinema. Five Heartbeats is easily in my top 10 movies of ALL time.

to your last point, its funny you say this when we were having the NL debate and you was saying how people just wasnt checking for NL like that, but now you painting Meteor Man as some cinematic marvel (no pun) when it was just ok.
 
AP21 said:
nah...you not gon do that

i didnt say it wasnt memorable b/c it wasnt made my marvel. Thor 2 was made by Marvel and it sucked. What else you got?

i watched meteor man a few times, and fam, i hate to tell you, it was just ok. Let me add, in my opinion. Meteor man came out in 93, I was 10. IDK what else to tell you. Then again, you are talking to someone who, when it came out, didnt have the same view on the world as I do today. I appreciate the contributions Robert Townsend made to cinema. Five Heartbeats is easily in my top 10 movies of ALL time.
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i was 11

and i thought it was great to see the images of my own people on the screen being superheroes and community folk. there were some thugs, but i inthk the story glamorized the everyday man, and it really inspired me to be the best i could be... especially at the end when the whole community stood up behind him...i was only 11 but i wanted to be just like meteor man.........someone who care about the people around him and my entire community could stand behind....


it sucks that it didn't leave a stronger impact on you......
 
King Du said:
like i said, they're making too big of an issue out of a movie just cuz the shit looks good....

but people are trendy, black folk are no different i guess,, i think avatar was wack juice ... but it was the highest grossing movie of all time....cuz it was so pretty.....


people like pretty shit......i get it... but separate the pretty from the significance it carries.....just cuz something looks good doesn't make it more important than something that might be a lot more ugly
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avatar was wack, however, speaking from a cinematography perspective, it gave way to a lot of things directors started doing with their films.
 
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