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Matt Ryan's been to the SB and has an MVP. How's he less deserving of the HOF than Vick?
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Matt Ryan's been to the SB and has an MVP. How's he less deserving of the HOF than Vick?
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His career not over yet. You know who else has an MVP and an SB appearance? Boomer Esiason.
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So you can name Rivers and Big Ben, but not anyone whose career isn't over?
What's Boomer Esiason that have to do with Vick being over Ryan? If you want to use him to keep Ryan out, it'd be a name to bring up. But it doesn't explain why Vick should be in over Ryan.
Big Ben and Rivers is essentially at the end of their run. Matt Ryan has at least 6-7 years left a lot can happen then. You mentioned MVP and SB appearance so...
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He can only add to his resume. How's Vick over Ryan?
Mister B. M. Ed.
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Best debate yet.
Vick's numbers aren't great, but his IMPACT should push him in more than anything. He literally changed the perception of the black QB in the NFL.
It's gonna take 6-8 years, but Vick should be in the Hall.
Vick's numbers aren't great, but his IMPACT should push him in more than anything. He literally changed the perception of the black QB in the NFL.
It's gonna take 6-8 years, but Vick should be in the Hall.
Read Mister B’s post above mine
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HOF criteria: Can you write the story of the NFL or a specific era in the NFL without a chapter about Mike Vick?
Answer: No.
Verdict: Hall of Fame
Answer: No.
Verdict: Hall of Fame
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Multiple AFC championship games which they probably would've won at least 1 of if Tomlison wasn't always hurt going into the game or didn't get hurt in the game
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Athletic, too lazy/undisciplined to dedicate his time to getting better, average to below average passing, black eye on the franchise for character issues. Yaaa, glad he didn't reinforce any of that stuff.
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Watching y’all with these HoF arguments is funny as fuck. Vick was a game changer yes but no that dude does not deserve to be in the Hall. The numbers aren’t up to snuff. He’s maybe had one or two years when he was a top 5 QB. Never been to a Super Bowl let alone had more than just a handful of winning seasons. Not to mention it’s well known he was just coasting until he got locked up. Voters don’t forget that shit. If he gets in it’s gonna take a long ass time & even still there’s dudes that are gonna be more deserving.
Matt Ryan has had 10 plus years of solid stats & a lot of winning seasons. An MVP & a SB appearance. With potential to do more still. He’s gonna be in the HoF. Maybe not first ballot but it’s gonna happen.
Matt Ryan has had 10 plus years of solid stats & a lot of winning seasons. An MVP & a SB appearance. With potential to do more still. He’s gonna be in the HoF. Maybe not first ballot but it’s gonna happen.
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So hypothetically he would have won the 1 AFCCG he went to if his running back was more reliable? That's a HOF argument? Ok man...
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That ain't the only thing but that's all I'm going to type.
But did he have the impact yes or no?
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You didn't type anything. You lied about how many AFCCG he went to then blamed his RB for losing a game he went 19/37 with 0 TD's and 2 INT in.
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Didnt lie actually reading it again it was typo but carry on
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Those are how black QB's were viewed. Which of those things did Vick change?
