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And you would call future a genius over them??

Cuz i mean that's my whole point. Every good musician ain't a genius.
Hence why I called future a songwriting or trap genius. Vai, ygnwie, abasi all make instrumental guitar based music, it's not very accessible and because it's mainly instrument driven it's not always consistent so I consider them geniuses/masters at their instruments but not at songwriting.

I keep saying the same stuff and it's like yall aren't reading it all or refuting it.
 
:tuh: Negro, future has had 3 no.1 albums in the last seven months. Since when tf is that a cult following? MF Doom has a cult following, KRS One has a cult following, but future come on man, how you type that out without slapping yourself to your senses?


He had 3 no 1 hits because the bar is set so low,
niggas are tripping over it and making it. You like his music because it's catchy. I get it.

Catchy doesn't grant you the musical genius title tho.

Once again josh my love

SEAT!
 
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You said BB king wasn't as great as his counterparts.

Is that even worth me debating? No.

I asked you to back up your argument on why future is a musical genius and you did by saying "chart success"
Which is a flawed on so many accounts but at least you gave more of an answer than Goldie.

Good day friend.

And don't ever disrespect the stones in my presence again.
You said BB king wasn't as great as his counterparts.
Word? I coulda sworn I said this:

I could replace bb with buddy guy, muddy waters, jimmy reed or chuck berry and nothing would change.

And that was in response to you saying that he revolutionized rock and blues music, when he wasn't exceptional compared to his contemporaries, he stands exactly on their level.



I asked you to back up your argument on why future is a musical genius and you did by saying "chart success"
Which is a flawed on so many accounts but at least you gave more of an answer than Goldie.
I said he was an exceptional songwriter right along with it, in fact, I said he wouldn't be able to sustain his chart success if he wasn't.
 
Word? I coulda sworn I said this:



And that was in response to you saying that he revolutionized rock and blues music, when he wasn't exceptional compared to his contemporaries, he stands exactly on their level.



I said he was an exceptional songwriter right along with it, in fact, I said he wouldn't be able to sustain his chart success if he wasn't.


FUTURE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL SONGWRITER?
 
He had 3 no 1 hits because the bar is set so low,
niggas are tripping over it and making it. You like his music because it's catchy. I get it.

Catchy doesn't grant you the musical genius title tho.

Once again josh my love

SEAT!
Nah, name me somebody else besides Drake in the realm of hip hop doing that and I'll accept defeat until then come back with better points race.
 
Hence why I called future a songwriting or trap genius. Vai, ygnwie, abasi all make instrumental guitar based music, it's not very accessible and because it's mainly instrument driven it's not always consistent so I consider them geniuses/masters at their instruments but not at songwriting.

I keep saying the same stuff and it's like yall aren't reading it all or refuting it.
So your stance on future being a musical genius is based on his ability as a song writer... He's now a trap genius...

Look man, why can't y'all just be fans of the nigga??

Neyo a better song writer than future.... And you'd still have a tough case to prove....

This is why it's tough to debate certain shit... I've never seen this level of reach in my life
 
Fuck Future, yall said NAS isn't a musical genius, but fuckin Rick Rubin is? I can't even take a mf serious after that ridiculous ass comment.
 
So your stance on future being a musical genius is based on his ability as a song writer... He's now a trap genius...

Look man, why can't y'all just be fans of the nigga??

Neyo a better song writer than future.... And you'd still have a tough case to prove....

This is why it's tough to debate certain shit... I've never seen this level of reach in my life
That's subjective, yall making the shit seem like it's a meritocracy when it's not. That's been my whole point, and yall have been struggling to refute it, all yall do laugh at the audacity but put up 0 counter arguments because you can't.
 
Counter arguments would be condescending to future music,

And most of us like dude,, and don't wanna tear the dude down....

It's just the genius talk is a reach
 
Yo Im with @Dupacalypse on this one.
Yall some fans and thats ok.

Be a fan and leave it at that.
You take away from artist that are really good and talented out here when you start handing out titles to just any and everybody.
You cant be out here calling people musical geniuses because they have chart success.
Good songwriting doesnt make you a musical genius.
I mean really sit down and think about what youre saying.


I love Beyonce. I love love Beyonce but shes not a musical genius.
Like come on.

Youre a fan. Be a fan and stop terrorizing folks with your lopsided views on artist.
 
That's subjective, yall making the shit seem like it's a meritocracy when it's not. That's been my whole point, and yall have been struggling to refute it, all yall do laugh at the audacity but put up 0 counter arguments because you can't.

Josh. what are you talking about?
weve been debating your chart success and songwriting stance this entire thread.
 
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