Dave Chappelle gets no Royalties from

[WilberDMillz]

I’m under the impression he don’t get any money from Viacom regardless of how it’s show either through reruns or streaming

Bro, in the clip he said verbatim "Go to accounting and look at what you made off the show vs what you paid me". He got paid for the show. Whether it was fair or not is the question. Now they're making even more off it with the streaming shot and Dave ain't having it.

It seams its another Nick Cannon situation with wilding out.

How either of them have no ownership in their very popular shows is crazy

 

[dasmooth1]

Bro, in the clip he said verbatim "Go to accounting and look at what you made off the show vs what you paid me". He got paid for the show. Whether it was fair or not is the question. Now they're making even more off it with the streaming shot and Dave ain't having it.

It seams its another Nick Cannon situation with wilding out.

How either of them have no ownership in their very popular shows is crazy

Not that crazy. In fact it's the norm in the broadcasting industry. It's only once you get to the level Chappelle is at now that you really have the clout and leverage to put into your contract that you get royalties.

Also I imagine his business savvy when he started Chappelle show is a fraction of what it is now so unless he was clued up and doughed up enough to have an entertainment lawyer before he started the show chances are he would never have been able to negotiate for royalties given that he wasn't the international name that he is now.

 

[mryounggun]

Exactly. I wonder if netflix pays the creator or the estate of the creator everytime they buy a show under similar circumstances. Or are they doing this just because its Dave Chappelle.

Agreed with everything dave said until the boycott part. I'll never get why ultra rich, ultra talented people feel the right to tell people what to do with their money.

When did he tell anyone what to do with their money?

 

[25centsandwich]

He didnt ask you to boycott anything but his show (the one he created but is no longer getting paid for)

Your money already spent on the streaming platform so he's not trying to tell you what to do with it

If you think he should be paid, dont watch it

Thats just simply not how it works. Once he produced and recorded content for the show, it became a product for the company to sell to the consumer.

If i pay for a streaming service and the chappelle show is one of the shows that i base my purchasing decision on...im gonna watch the chappelles show.

Now if this was an entertainer who has struggled after the show has aired and been sold then i might consider it. Thats a personal decision. But this is somebody who agreed to take 40 million to do more seasons then quit before filming probably leaving dozens of people unemployed and then partially parlayed the strength of the show into millions and millions of dollars for his standup specials. Sorry i dont feel bad enough for chappelle to boycott.

The way that viacom worked it was fucked up. No doubt...but the content is already out there for millions to enjoy. Dude is ultra rich and ultra successful. It is what it is.

 

[Inori]

 

[Dwayne]

And Monique thinks she the same as him lol.

Levels

 

[Bow to Royalty]

Ah, popping up nice and late. Dave was on some crybaby shit with this boycott talk. He signed a bad deal when he should have known better. He had been in movies, and written and starred in half baked before he did this deal, so Hollywood wasn't brand new to him.

People saying Viacom should make it right... they did with that next big ass contract. He walked out on them and fucked them and their employees.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Ah, popping up nice and late. Dave was on some crybaby shit with this boycott talk. He signed a bad deal when he should have known better. He had been in movies, and written and starred in half baked before he did this deal, so Hollywood wasn't brand new to him.

People saying Viacom should make it right... they did with that next big ass contract. He walked out on them and fucked them and their employees.

It is a bit of a dick move, but the entertainment companies pull dick moves all the time. Yeah, Dave signed a bad contract, but the company used their leverage to make that happen. Now, Dave is using his influence to keep them from capitalizing off his mistake.

How is he in the wrong? And Viacom didn't give him a big ass contract to make up for the shitty one he got the first time. They gave him a big ass contract because he earned it with his performance and success. You think he would have got that contract if the Dave Chapelle Show didn't go on to be as big as it was? Of course not.

 

[Bow to Royalty]

It is a bit of a dick move, but the entertainment companies pull dick moves all the time. Yeah, Dave signed a bad contract, but the company used their leverage to make that happen. Now, Dave is using his influence to keep them from capitalizing off his mistake.

How is he in the wrong? And Viacom didn't give him a big ass contract to make up for the shitty one he got the first time. They gave him a big ass contract because he earned it with his performance and success. You think he would have got that contract if the Dave Chapelle Show didn't go on to be as big as it was? Of course not.

I think my question would be did they really use their leverage? Or did they pay the going rate and give Dave a prove-it deal? Dave back then was NOWHERE near as popular as he is now. And he couldn't get a show anywhere else. That's why I don't get why people can say Monique was trippin, but Dave's right.

After Dave proved himself, they offered him a good contract. He walked out on it, fucked Viacom, and everyone that worked on the show. Why would Viacom look out for him after that? I also wonder if anyone else was smarter in their contract negotiations and gets paid when Netflix gets it. Because that deal could be helping someone who needs that money much more than Dave does.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I think my question would be did they really use their leverage? Or did they pay the going rate and give Dave a prove-it deal? Dave back then was NOWHERE near as popular as he is now. And he couldn't get a show anywhere else. That's why I don't get why people can say Monique was trippin, but Dave's right.

After Dave proved himself, they offered him a good contract. He walked out on it, fucked Viacom, and everyone that worked on the show. Why would Viacom look out for him after that? I also wonder if anyone else was smarter in their contract negotiations and gets paid when Netflix gets it. Because that deal could be helping someone who needs that money much more than Dave does.

Bruh, he's not getting royalties from the show. Royalties only matter if you think the show is going to be successful. So the company went into the deal thinking enough about the concept that they wanted to make sure they kept the future success to themselves. Yes, they had leverage. Like you said Dave was nobody back then, so he wasn't really in a position to turn down that opportunity off the possibility that the show might be super big and he would get screwed out of the profits from its eventual success. Not to mention that streaming services didn't really even exist at the time, so there was no way for him to know that he'd be missing out on big Netflix money. I don't even see what Monique has to do with this. She was whining about not getting the offer she felt she deserves. That's a completely different situation.

You act like Dave took Viacom's money and ran. He didn't. He walked out on it all. He didn't fuck Viacom anymore than he fucked himself. And Dave isn't asking Viacom to look out for him. He just is taking the tools at his disposal to make sure that Viacom doesn't get paid of something he made profitable if he can't get paid either. There's nothing illegal or unethical about what he's doing. He's making it known that he doesn't like the situation and Netflix and HBO are appeasing him. If Viacom chooses to not make money instead of renegotiating and making money with Dave, that's on them.

 

[Bow to Royalty]

Bruh, he's not getting royalties from the show. Royalties only matter if you think the show is going to be successful. So the company went into the deal thinking enough about the concept that they wanted to make sure they kept the future success to themselves. Yes, they had leverage. Like you said Dave was nobody back then, so he wasn't really in a position to turn down that opportunity off the possibility that the show might be super big and he would get screwed out of the profits from its eventual success. Not to mention that streaming services didn't really even exist at the time, so there was no way for him to know that he'd be missing out on big Netflix money. I don't even see what Monique has to do with this. She was whining about not getting the offer she felt she deserves. That's a completely different situation.

You act like Dave took Viacom's money and ran. He didn't. He walked out on it all. He didn't fuck Viacom anymore than he fucked himself. And Dave isn't asking Viacom to look out for him. He just is taking the tools at his disposal to make sure that Viacom doesn't get paid of something he made profitable if he can't get paid either. There's nothing illegal or unethical about what he's doing. He's making it known that he doesn't like the situation and Netflix and HBO are appeasing him. If Viacom chooses to not make money instead of renegotiating and making money with Dave, that's on them.

The company went in to make money too. What'd Dave put up the money for? Cast? Writers? Equipment? Staff? Viacom paid for everything. They invested a lot of money into an unproven guy that nobody else wanted. So they looked to get paid back. Makes sense for them to do that. Makes even more sense when you see that Dave did just flake out on them. And ya, streaming wasn't a thing yet, but TV show royalties were. Shows were being re-run on other networks and shit. So I'm not giving him a pass for not seeking royalties. Just like DVD's had been around and he didn't negotiate for them.

The Monique comparison came from her complaining about her offer and people basically saying "Who do you think you are? You're not getting Chapelle/Rock money. If you think that's what you're worth go find someone that'll pay you that." Well 2000 Chapelle was offered an appropriate contract for who he was, and now with 20 years of hindsight people have a problem with it. It's the same situation except Monique walked away from what she considered a bad deal, and Dave accepted it.

He did fuck Viacom more than himself. Dave isn't financing the show. Viacom paid salaries, paid to promote the show, paid for equipment and got left without a product. Dave decided he didn't want to work, so he didn't get paid. That's not getting fucked. The staff that wanted to work, and were left unemployed because Dave secretly left out of nowhere... they got fucked.

Dave can kill that victim shit. He gave Comedy Central 2 years, they gave him the platform to become a superstar when nobody else would. He fucked them, and now he's mad. I like Dave a lot, but I'm not buying into this "woe is me" shit over his show.

Needless to say, I won't judge you for long posts.

 

[Bow to Royalty]

Also need Dave to cut out the vagueness. I want to know much money did he get from Viacom.

 

[darkboy301]

How long is (or was) the contract for?

I thought he left the show after negotiations for his next contract fell through....the one for $50 million....or was he in the middle of that deal when he left?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

The company went in to make money too. What'd Dave put up the money for? Cast? Writers? Equipment? Staff? Viacom paid for everything. They invested a lot of money into an unproven guy that nobody else wanted. So they looked to get paid back. Makes sense for them to do that. Makes even more sense when you see that Dave did just flake out on them. And ya, streaming wasn't a thing yet, but TV show royalties were. Shows were being re-run on other networks and shit. So I'm not giving him a pass for not seeking royalties. Just like DVD's had been around and he didn't negotiate for them.

The Monique comparison came from her complaining about her offer and people basically saying "Who do you think you are? You're not getting Chapelle/Rock money. If you think that's what you're worth go find someone that'll pay you that." Well 2000 Chapelle was offered an appropriate contract for who he was, and now with 20 years of hindsight people have a problem with it. It's the same situation except Monique walked away from what she considered a bad deal, and Dave accepted it.

He did fuck Viacom more than himself. Dave isn't financing the show. Viacom paid salaries, paid to promote the show, paid for equipment and got left without a product. Dave decided he didn't want to work, so he didn't get paid. That's not getting fucked. The staff that wanted to work, and were left unemployed because Dave secretly left out of nowhere... they got fucked.

Dave can kill that victim shit. He gave Comedy Central 2 years, they gave him the platform to become a superstar when nobody else would. He fucked them, and now he's mad. I like Dave a lot, but I'm not buying into this "woe is me" shit over his show.

Needless to say, I won't judge you for long posts.

I'm not sure I see your point. Yes, Viacom was looking to make money. Cutting Dave out of royalties wouldn't have stopped them from making money. Nothing you said changes the fact that they had all the power in that transaction. You're acting like Dave had no interest in the royalties at the time. We don't know that. For all we know, he was in a 'take it or leave it" type deal. Again, that's Viacom using their leverage against him. I'm not saying you have to be sorry for Dave not getting royalties. I'm just saying you shouldn't be sorry for Viacom because Dave is doing to them what he felt was done to him.

I still don't get the connection between Monique trying to cancel Netflix for not paying her an amount that she probably doesn't deserve at this point and Dave playing hardball to get a cut of revenue that in a fair world he'd probably be getting anyway.

Why are you making it like there was a whole season that Dave stole and destroyed. That's not what happened. He flaked before they started work on the season. Half the shit the expenses you're talking about probably weren't even paid. Dave isn't a victim here, but neither is a Viacom. These companies have always played the business dirty. Dave is just doing the same thing. Dave might not get an extra dime off this, but what if Viacom strives to make better deals to prevent something like this from happening again? Are you really going to say Dave was the bad guy?

 

[Bow to Royalty]

How long is (or was) the contract for?

I thought he left the show after negotiations for his next contract fell through....the one for $50 million....or was he in the middle of that deal when he left?

I think his original contract was for 2 seasons. Then his next contract (the one for $50 mil) was for 2 more seasons. I think he signed that deal, then just ditched the show instead of fulfilling his contract.

 

[PhenomTheMac]

It's not that he didnt receive royalties, it's that streaming as a technology didnt exist when he signed his contract.

He received royalties for DVD sales and re-airings, but not for this and that's the fucked up part, that a corporation can block you out of something unforeseen in the future.

 

[Bow to Royalty]

I'm not sure I see your point. Yes, Viacom was looking to make money. Cutting Dave out of royalties wouldn't have stopped them from making money. Nothing you said changes the fact that they had all the power in that transaction. You're acting like Dave had no interest in the royalties at the time. We don't know that. For all we know, he was in a 'take it or leave it" type deal. Again, that's Viacom using their leverage against him. I'm not saying you have to be sorry for Dave not getting royalties. I'm just saying you shouldn't be sorry for Viacom because Dave is doing to them what he felt was done to him.

I still don't get the connection between Monique trying to cancel Netflix for not paying her an amount that she probably doesn't deserve at this point and Dave playing hardball to get a cut of revenue that in a fair world he'd probably be getting anyway.

Why are you making it like there was a whole season that Dave stole and destroyed. That's not what happened. He flaked before they started work on the season. Half the shit the expenses you're talking about probably weren't even paid. Dave isn't a victim here, but neither is a Viacom. These companies have always played the business dirty. Dave is just doing the same thing. Dave might not get an extra dime off this, but what if Viacom strives to make better deals to prevent something like this from happening again? Are you really going to say Dave was the bad guy?

My point with that was the people that put up all the money, get to call the money shots and make sure they get paid back. I think we're just viewing "leverage" differently. Let's say someone wants to start a business that costs 100k to start, but he doesn't have any money. If you offer up the other 100k, are you taking advantage of your leverage (as the wealthier person) by negotiating for a better split on profits? Or is that just fair since you put up all the money, took all the risk, and have the most to lose? Dave didn't put up the money, and if the show bombed, he wasn't gonna be on the hook (or volunteer) to help Viacom pay off any debt. It's hard to get a zero risk/high reward contract when you're offering a product nobody wants to buy. I don't feel bad for Viacom for Dave calling for the boycott...I just don't feel bad for Dave.

For the Monique comparison... they both got offered a fair deal. We told Monique she was trippin, but boycotted for Dave. Dave outperformed his deal so it looks worse... but without hindsight it sounds fair.

He didn't leave before work started on season 3. From what I read they were in the middle of filming the season when he disappeared. So people did need to be paid. That honestly bothered me about his rant too. Take some ownership. He signed a deal. He had tons of people whose livelihood depended on that deal. He flaked on the deal, fucking them and Viacom. But he doesn't mention any of that when saying Viacom doesn't do him the courtesy of calling him for permission to let Netflix carry his show.

I'm not saying poor Viacom in relation to the boycott. I'm just not saying poor Dave.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm not saying poor Viacom in relation to the boycott. I'm just not saying poor Dave.

You're basically saying the same thing I said in my first post in reverse order. I'm not sure what you're debating anymore.

 

[Bow to Royalty]

You're basically saying the same thing I said in my first post in reverse order. I'm not sure what you're debating anymore.

I don't think Viacom did Dave wrong, and I think it's kinda wack that he's complaining about them. That's the short version.

 

[King Freeman]

The company went in to make money too. What'd Dave put up the money for? Cast? Writers? Equipment? Staff? Viacom paid for everything. They invested a lot of money into an unproven guy that nobody else wanted. So they looked to get paid back. Makes sense for them to do that. Makes even more sense when you see that Dave did just flake out on them. And ya, streaming wasn't a thing yet, but TV show royalties were. Shows were being re-run on other networks and shit. So I'm not giving him a pass for not seeking royalties. Just like DVD's had been around and he didn't negotiate for them.

The Monique comparison came from her complaining about her offer and people basically saying "Who do you think you are? You're not getting Chapelle/Rock money. If you think that's what you're worth go find someone that'll pay you that." Well 2000 Chapelle was offered an appropriate contract for who he was, and now with 20 years of hindsight people have a problem with it. It's the same situation except Monique walked away from what she considered a bad deal, and Dave accepted it.

He did fuck Viacom more than himself. Dave isn't financing the show. Viacom paid salaries, paid to promote the show, paid for equipment and got left without a product. Dave decided he didn't want to work, so he didn't get paid. That's not getting fucked. The staff that wanted to work, and were left unemployed because Dave secretly left out of nowhere... they got fucked.

Dave can kill that victim shit. He gave Comedy Central 2 years, they gave him the platform to become a superstar when nobody else would. He fucked them, and now he's mad. I like Dave a lot, but I'm not buying into this "woe is me" shit over his show.

Needless to say, I won't judge you for long posts.

Damn. Didn't look at it like that. Talk to these niggas.