2021 NFL Offseason Thread
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Bow to Royalty
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It's not about them getting $40 million because the cap keeps changing. They got more than any player in the history of the league got. I don't think any of them had a playoff win at the time. Jimmy had 7 career starts.
Haha y'all keep shifting the point. It's not about what I want my team to do with our money. It's can the player get the money.
Cousins
Stafford
Carr
Jimmy
Who was worth being the top paid player? None of them. Who would I want my team to make the top paid player? None of them. But that doesn't change the fact that they got top dollar. If they can be the highest paid player, Dak isn't being unrealistic asking to be the 2nd highest paid.
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I'm with you. I'm kinda confused by the Watson support but putting down Dak. Dak asks to be paid a little less than Mahomes and its a problem and knocking his resume. Watson, with his 1 playoff win, asks for more than what Wilson gets and it's crickets.
Marc123
You got it dude!
I guess that's a no
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Stop mixing up "Would you do it?" with "Could it get done?". Lots of people up here wouldn't have given Watt the deal he got. So what, the Cardinals did. Would you have given Jimmy/Cousins the deal they got? No? Me either. So what, the 9ers/Vikings did.
That's my point. Someone will, and history shows it. So if someone will pay him that, he's not being unrealistic asking for it.
oldman_Ghost!
If u Google who gives a fuck. My name ain't there!
Thank you!
@Bow to Royalty what you mean nobody ask me. It's what we are all here for. Given our opinion. Like how you sound trying to debate that!?
There are two sides of that debate and you steady arguing one sided...smh.
Bruh he ain't signed yet. Dallas is offering 33, 35..that is not a bad contract w 100 mill guaranteed.
So we gonna argue over 3mill, 3.7 mill..etc?
I asked him this something and he ignores it to say he is not Dallas. That's not the point. If you feel he deserves it say it, say u would pay him....again we are all given our opinions. If you don't feel he deserves it, say so..
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TheMadLionsFan
Out chea thuggin in my home office.
Dude is right
You guys are looking at the number and "saying he isn't worth it" and that is completely incorrect and irrelevant way to look at this situation....its the economics of the NFL....the next player up is going to look at the contract that preceded him and base negotiations off of that
Also, if Dallas wants to play this franchise tag game, they are playing with fire
This season the tag is going to be 37.7 Million and in 2022 its going to be 54.2 million
Does Dallas really want to have one player count 54.2 million on the cap?
if you have a QB who you don't want to pay, you better have a backup plan
You guys are looking at the number and "saying he isn't worth it" and that is completely incorrect and irrelevant way to look at this situation....its the economics of the NFL....the next player up is going to look at the contract that preceded him and base negotiations off of that
Also, if Dallas wants to play this franchise tag game, they are playing with fire
This season the tag is going to be 37.7 Million and in 2022 its going to be 54.2 million
Does Dallas really want to have one player count 54.2 million on the cap?
if you have a QB who you don't want to pay, you better have a backup plan
oldman_Ghost!
If u Google who gives a fuck. My name ain't there!
If Dallas feels that 33..35mill is enough, who is to say they are in the wrong as well?
This league is also a what have you done for me lately and again..its not like Dallas ain't offering anything..we are debating over an extra 3 mill??
So Dallas is f'd up for an extra 3mill but Dak's ok to stay put for an extra 3 mill and is coming off n injury. Got it.
Not saying he doesn't deserve to be paid, but there also has to be "a line in the sand" as well...IMO
Idk he could very well get the loot from dallas...but I will be damn if I can't say I think Dak doing to much. One playoff win.
Shit Jimmy G at least went to a SB, Russell Wilson won a SB....yes Watson hasn't..but at the same time the contract ish Watson wasn't dragging out....he dragging out some other ish now..ha ha
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Bow to Royalty
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I say nobody asked you because you keep mixing up 2 things. Y'all are saying he's out of his mind and being unrealistic asking for the money, and backing it up by saying YOU wouldn't pay him that.
Nobody said YOU had to. But history shows someone will because that's how the league works. So he's not crazy for going after that money.
You're hung up on who "deserves" what, and what you'd pay, even after I gave you all the examples showing you what's "deserved" doesn't mean anything.
Bow to Royalty
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Nobody is saying Dallas is in the wrong. They can offer whatever they want. But if it's not enough to keep him, it's not enough to keep him.
Watson's contract didn't drag out because they gave him what he asked for. He wanted more money than Wilson with his 1 playoff win, and it's no problem. Watson got like $39/year but Dak's crazy and unrealistic for asking for $40?
And no Jimmy G didn't negotiate with a SB trip under his belt. He had 7 career starts, and no playoff games when he signed his mega deal. Cousins, Stafford, Jimmy G, and Carr all became the highest paid players in the league without a playoff win.
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Bow to Royalty
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Haha, Man if you think a team will offer him the $40 mil/year why were you even debating against it earlier?
Marc123
You got it dude!
Bruh. Two things can be true.
Dak isn't worth 40 mill per year but that doesnt mean a historically poorly run franchise, looking to make a splash wont make the mistake of paying him
oldman_Ghost!
If u Google who gives a fuck. My name ain't there!
Why does every debate with you have to drag on....you have your stances and other people have theirs.....i clearly put out what my stances was just as marc 123 was saying...he (DAK) is doing too much. He has a pretty good offer on the table now but because it's not north of 40 that is a problem? Why, again 3 mill off? and I know how these players view money as respect...but still like i said you have to draw the line, dumb franchises make dumb decisions.
you name all those QBs that got paid and in the end, they did nothing to bring a ring to their franchise...so you going to sit there and tell me it's all good because they got paid what they wanted. Isn't the point to win? They all got paid to now either have to be moved or and the franchise has to go in a all new different direction..but it's ok. You payed the QB what he wanted though.
dumb franchises do dumb things..
I am off this subject i already spent too much time on the cowboys and I don't even give a damn about them.
Bow to Royalty
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It drug on because you kept going off topic. "Would i pay that much? How did those deals turn out for teams that did pay that much? How many playoff wins does he have?" Off topic. The question is, is Dak out his mind and unrealistic with his pay demands. The answer's no because he can get that much.
If your stance was just "I wouldn't pay him that much"...ok, fair enough... me either. But you're saying he's asking for too much.
Jerry throws money at people and has 1-2 playoff win in like 25 years. Why you acting like they're not a franchise that makes dumb decisions?
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Marc123
You got it dude!
Report: Talks between Cowboys, Dak Prescott's agent are "progressing" - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)
Jerry about to cave? lol
dallas offered 35, dak wants 40. agree to 38 and call it a day.
if a deal gets done, something along those lines happens.
Jerry about to cave? lol
dallas offered 35, dak wants 40. agree to 38 and call it a day.
if a deal gets done, something along those lines happens.
Bow to Royalty
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That's all I was saying from jump. He can get the money he's asking for. That's why I don't get what you were disagreeing with.
aka_og
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im wit @Bow to Royalty regarding dak
daks agent could have sat him down and listed Cousins, Stafford, Carr, Jimmy and said 'you are marginally no different from those players and they still got paid! whatever excuses people can make for you not being worth it applies to them too!'
its easy looking at this from a team and fan standpoint - but few want to from the players
if dak walked - he will get paid the money he's asking for by another team
daks agent could have sat him down and listed Cousins, Stafford, Carr, Jimmy and said 'you are marginally no different from those players and they still got paid! whatever excuses people can make for you not being worth it applies to them too!'
its easy looking at this from a team and fan standpoint - but few want to from the players
if dak walked - he will get paid the money he's asking for by another team
Bow to Royalty
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Exactly. It's that simple.
Then they want to ask what I'd pay? how many playoff wins does he have? would i want my team to pay that much? do I think he's worth it? Then ask why it drug on so long...