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Whether he overvalued himself is subjective

Ill say at the time his dispute first arose he was justified...

I do think that him sitting out hurt his value a tad bit...imo he not getting more than gurley but you never know

I say I hope the NFLPA took notice based off the principal alone...he was willing to sacrifice 14mil...

Just think if the players had that mentality in the next CBA...what they could accomplish

I do agree that they need to smarten up and start doing 2 and 3 yr deals like the NBA players

Would def help in getting more gauranteed money

These 2 and 3rd string players cant afford to do that.

They living paycheck to paycheck and can get tomorrow
 
That's where I disagree. There's no contract template from the CBA. You get what you negotiate for. Cousins got a 3 year $84 million contract all guaranteed. Revis use to get good contracts too. Players just need to do shorter contracts, and get them fully guaranteed.
you missing my point fam

why can they cut you at the drop of a dime with so much money left on your contract?

why are most of the money of the deal is based on shit you not gonna be able to do? i.e., if its depending on x number of snaps, the coach and team can not put you in so that you cant reach that incentive

shit like this is negotiated in CBA deals. All they seem to want is a bigger slice of the pie but they not worried about the details
 
you missing my point fam

why can they cut you at the drop of a dime with so much money left on your contract?

why are most of the money of the deal is based on shit you not gonna be able to do? i.e., if its depending on x number of snaps, the coach and team can not put you in so that you cant reach that incentive

shit like this is negotiated in CBA deals. All they seem to want is a bigger slice of the pie but they not worried about the details

They can cut you at the drop of a hat without paying you because players sign contracts letting them. That's my point. Non-guaranteed money isn't required. The players and agents can fix the situation without the PA helping.

Most contracts aren't too incentive based as far as snaps and milestones. They're in there, but not usually a majority of the contract.

You're not getting a bunch of expensive, guaranteed, 5 year contracts in the most violent sport in the country... especially if there's a hard salary cap.
 
They can cut you at the drop of a hat without paying you because players sign contracts letting them. That's my point. Non-guaranteed money isn't required. The players and agents can fix the situation without the PA helping.

Most contracts aren't too incentive based as far as snaps and milestones. They're in there, but not usually a majority of the contract.

You're not getting a bunch of expensive, guaranteed, 5 year contracts in the most violent sport in the country... especially if there's a hard salary cap.
the NFLPA are the players tho. I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make
 
the NFLPA are the players tho. I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make

My point is they don't have guaranteed contracts because they (and their agent) don't negotiate for one. It's not the PA's fault. I know the PA represents the players, but they don't have 1,500+ people in negotiations.
 
Whether he overvalued himself is subjective

Ill say at the time his dispute first arose he was justified...

I do think that him sitting out hurt his value a tad bit...imo he not getting more than gurley but you never know

I say I hope the NFLPA took notice based off the principal alone...he was willing to sacrifice 14mil...

Just think if the players had that mentality in the next CBA...what they could accomplish

I do agree that they need to smarten up and start doing 2 and 3 yr deals like the NBA players

Would def help in getting more gauranteed money

It is subjective, but objectively Gurley is 2 years younger, and had a better season before he got a new contract. That'll make it hard for Bell to get more money.

I really think it's players not taking the blueprint other players have laid out. Revis (in a different situation, but still a smart move) made the last year of his contract insanely expensive. Meant the Pats basically had to let him go, or renegotiate his deal. That was him negotiating a contract to stop himself from getting the franchise tag. Kirk got a short deal fully guaranteed. He negotiated a deal to get every penny. That's why I don't get why people blame the CBA. There's nothing in there stopping players from getting whatever they want.
 
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NE are what the NFL would call a repeat offender.

Nobody did more shit to make the league look bad than NE

It’s time for them to lose 1st round picks for the next 5 years.

Because fining Kraft is child’s play to a multi billionaire.

Can’t make him sell the team because his family owns it.

Lmao at punishment being not being able to watch the team from the sky box
 
NE are what the NFL would call a repeat offender.

Nobody did more shit to make the league look bad than NE

It’s time for them to lose 1st round picks for the next 5 years.

Because fining Kraft is child’s play to a multi billionaire.

Can’t make him sell the team because his family owns it.

Lmao at punishment being not being able to watch the team from the sky box

All jokes aside. Has a professional sports team been caught cheating more than NE?
 

Nick Foles ain't a Franchise QB, Nick Foles like Cam Newton. Is not a passers first, they are tossers. Cams strength is that he is very smart and can read react to what the defense does. Fast enough that his tosser weakness evens out, and doesnt often act as a detriment to his inablity to be a passer. Foles is a tosser, until he finds a good rhythm, then he becomes a passer. Where he throws guys open and puts the ball only in where the receiver can get it.

He gets there when the defense feels the need to rush the passer more, rather than set in zones. He gains his rhythm and becomes deadly once he has it. That's the mark of a great offensive coordinator, and a D that sends other teams to quick 3 and outs. He cant go to a Miami, or Jacksonville and do that. Jacksonville got the talent but not the coaching. There he would only be slightly better than Bortles, as they would at least score touchdowns.

But he would be very turnover prone.
 
Wrote an article about foles and his free agency for a site I write for. I’ll put it up by the end of the day if it gets published tonight
 
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Damn Randy Gregory fucked up again.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26096968/jets-looking-deal-no-3-pick-draft-haul

We need to make this happen.

2 options imo....

Trade back to 6 with the Giants for 2 2nds and a 4th. And Hope Quinnen Williams fall to 6 and draft him.

or trade all the way back to 10 with the Broncos for 2 1sts and a 3rd. And draft the best OT available, prolly Jawaan Taylor. Or if we go defense, draft Clelin Ferrell. If he falls to 10.

Then of course use all the extra picks for the next two years to build around Sam Darnold.

@5th Letter

btw with those extra mid rd picks. low key holla at the Jags n see what they are willing to give up for Jalen Ramsey.
 
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26096968/jets-looking-deal-no-3-pick-draft-haul

We need to make this happen.

2 options imo....

Trade back to 6 with the Giants for 2 2nds and a 4th. And Hope Quinnen Williams fall to 6 and draft him.

or trade all the way back to 10 with the Broncos for 2 1sts and a 3rd. And draft the best OT available, prolly Jawaan Taylor. Or if we go defense, draft Clelin Ferrell. If he falls to 10.

Then of course use all the extra picks for the next two years to build around Sam Darnold.

@5th Letter

btw with those extra mid rd picks. low key holla at the Jags n see what they are willing to give up for Jalen Ramsey.
Getting extra draft picks never hurts. I’m with it.
 
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