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AP3.0 said:
Dawg

Why have you never said this until now?

Would've cut out a ton of unnecessary back and forth
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I used to be on the plantation shoulder to shoulder with yall in the fields, remember?

I got tired of pricking my fingers and bounced.... y'all just bought better gloves
 
It’s women. What do you expect? Women cry all the time. like I said, the black woman is the most disrespected woman in the world thanks to those of you who do it to the least of them. They came this close to a once in a lifetime chance of possibly see a black woman be president of the United States of America and you think it’s a light thing to throw it in their face to make fun or shame of them for feeling some kind of way seeing it evaporate in front of their eyes over night like that? The black woman can’t even get a sympathetic audience with a few so called “men” on a social media platform?

Wack. But no surprise.
 
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Infamous114 said:
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Just start your own party already and divide the democratic party. Let whoever wants to come to Bernies party come, and let the old Clinton, Obama, Biden mfers die out.

Idc if this means the Republicans will win the next 4 elections. This version of the democratic party needs to die already.
 
AZTG said:
Just start your own party already and divide the democratic party. Let whoever wants to come to Bernies party come, and let the old Clinton, Obama, Biden mfers die out.

Idc if this means the Republicans will win the next 4 elections. This version of the democratic party needs to die already.
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Yang has tried to do this
 
ZMaKEa said:
Desiring being part of something isn't basic human nature in a political.

We are talking about fascism and a fascist movement vs. a basic simple liberal party.

Fascism always wins vs. liberalism because fascism addresses what liberalism does not. Fascism addresses lack of unity, alienation, national pride and capitalistic competition.

The standard liberal American view of, "Well they just hate minorities and want free shit" when Republicans aren't giving anybody anything and Dark MAGA Elon said his economic policy will cause harm doesn't pass the test.

Thinking about why Trump won the popular vote and the election using a rational liberal view of the world is obscuring the reality of MAGA.

Trump voters have decided they want to burn it all down and unify the country under national pride, unity, militarism and industry. They aren't thinking about racial groups as much as they are thinking about who is going to be loyal to their cause and who belongs. They aren't thinking about individual wealth but national wealth and who produces that wealth.

There's opportunists in every movement that runs off with the bag but this is a legit fascist movement that has been bubbling since 2008 with a clear ideology that true believers hold and they aren't thinking about tax cuts lol.
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If you think those MAGA folks, especially the ones with actual economic and social capital, don't consider race as a major factor then youre missing a huge piece of what even makes that movement appealing.
 
Infamous114 said:
My thing about Bernie is....why did he endorse Kamala if he felt this way the entire time lol
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LOL, same reason u voted for Kamala. He was not going to endorse Trump, lol.

The Kamala thing happened so late, there was no time to make demands like "they" did with Biden in 2020.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Yang has tried to do this
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But no one cares about Yang.

Personally not a fan of Bernie either.

But enough with the Dems being in middle for very thing.

At least if Bernie breaks away and takes let's say 15% of the party with him, then we'll have a party where we know where they stand.

Look at that statement from a Bernie. He made it clear hes on some fuck Israel, pro Palestine shit.

Now i might be pro Israel, I might be anti. He might win or lose me as a supported. But damn at least I know where the mfer stands.

The democratic party this whole time was on some "we will support Israel in any way but also free Palestine"

And they were like that about everything.

Let Bernie start his party and wether I agree or disagree with his policies, at least I would know exactly what the fuck that party believes
 
BlackRain said:
If you think those MAGA folks, especially the ones with actual economic and social capital, don't consider race as a major factor then youre missing a huge piece of what even makes that movement appealing.
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Don’t we as black folks consider race as a major factor on how we do things

Latinos, Asians and Whites all do.
 
Bernie was scared to death to talk about race his energy was good for the party he nudged the party left a bit but was never big on him but he definitely had value
 
BlackRain said:
If you think those MAGA folks, especially the ones with actual economic and social capital, don't consider race as a major factor then youre missing a huge piece of what even makes that movement appealing.
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No. They don't consider race a large factor. They consider family, lineage, nationality and values a large factor than a blanket racial factor.

Race in America was used to separate non-slaves from slaves. Then it became a proxy for caste. Now we go off of family, lineage and Americanness.


Race is dead. There are too many immigrants and classes within those immigrants populations that have a diversity of experiences for them to align according to race or ethnicity.

You are talking about a populations such as Indians that are used to a caste system and understand it well and they bring that understanding to America and employ it here.

You are talking about Latinos that understand a lineage based racial categorization that is more dependent of phenotype than blood and bringing it here. Not mention, nationality is more important than ethnicity to them.

You are talking about East Asians that understand strict hierarchal societies and the value of rank and class. They bring that here. They care more about nationality than race like Latinos.

The Black and White American understanding of race that dominated America is long gone. We are more like Brazil or India than 1950s America. Citizenship status, lineage, and family matters.

Race is dead and MAGA is accelerating it. Native Black Americans holding on to it is only causing confusion.

Native-born Black folks always get treated poorly because we descend from chattel slaves that legally was excluded from citizenship and equity in the USA. It has nothing to do with skin color or racialization.
 
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TheNightKing said:
This is the logic I don’t understand. Not voting for someone because they won’t give you something and allowing someone else win who isn’t even trying. This goes for this take, Latinos, blacks, Arabs, etc.
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I only asked for one thing. Student loan forgiveness. If the candidate can't provide the one thing I'm asking for, why would I vote for them?
 
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