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And then Kamala basically said she wasn't sure she could uphold Biden's decision against the courts. That told me all I needed to hear. I would have voted for Biden because he was trying hard to keep his promise it seemed, and I have an interest in not repaying that loan. I didn't vote for Trump, but I also didn't vote for Kamala and it felt like she didn't care about securing that same base that Biden was barely holding onto.

It had less to do with her securing the base and more to do with the base supporting her. She ran on the things needed to secure the base. She's also a Black woman. remember those white moderate votes that Biden won over in 2020 that I said he was the only candidate capable of getting? She didn't get them. It's not because of her policy or agenda which is.........Biden's agenda that those same people voted for in 2020.

The difference between Kamala and Biden is in their appearance. Not on policy or agenda. It's the same policy and same agenda. One has a pussy and is Black though so..................
 
There’s no definitely nothing right now. This time in 2016 HRC was washing Trump.

The most important day is Election Day. Making declarative statements is impractical. It’s an Election and nobody knows what is going to happen.

You are overestimating Trumps popularity outside of his base. Undecided voters are not swayed by Trump. The only people who unequivocally support Trump are his base.

Think outside of Trumps base (which is not larger than it was in 2020 btw)

Trump’s base is not larger right now than it was in 2020. He has lost supporters. Had Dems had a more popular candidate like Kamala running from the start then we’d be in a different position.

All you who didnt think he


Biden was losing in all polling and started to affect down ballot races.

Any Generic democrat beats trump, national polling shows that
Told y'all niggas back in July this shit wasn't gonna end well for the democrats
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No, they don't want free shit.

This is why Democrats and liberals are insufferable.

Y'all think like how a super trick think.

"All women like money and gifts. If I offer this and she is going to be down for me."

And when she rejects you and shows you what she wants, then it's:

"Fuck you bitch. You don't know what's good for you. You never liked me, you just want me for my money."

It's the same mentality.

Trump offers people a chance to be part of a project. It's literally called MAGA. Trump offers people a chance to be part of a redemption story.

Elon Musk literally said if he's appointed to the cabinet, his economic plan will be hard on people and Trump won the popular.

People don't want free shit. They want to be part of a grand narrative and contribute. They want unity with like-minded people.

Y'all literally watching a fascist movement sweep the country and don't understand why it works lol.

Yes people want to be a part of something. That's just basic human nature. But what you're not accounting for is another part of human nature which is greed and people not wanting to feel like someone else or another group has one up on them. Combine with the socialization of race and racism and class and you get people who don't mind their group benefitting so long as whoever they've been taught to hate doesn't get as much or morer
 
How was campaigning on abortion wasted words when it was a popular agenda that won in every single state down every single ballot?

Abortion was a popular agenda. It won on every ballot. That's not wasted words.

Your point about economic issues is flawed because nobody who criticized Kamala on the economy can explain why the economy under Trump will be better. He has no economic plan. She does. He wants to implement crushing tariffs and eliminate a large chuck of the workforce by deporting them. He also wants to cut taxes for the wealthiest earners and gut social programs like Social Security.

Trump's economic plans are only beneficial for the wealthy. It does not make America affordable.
Bringing up Trump is irrelevant when responding to me because I don’t back him
 
SC is always gonna be red cause of the amount of rural areas , but it’s nice to see that the black folks in Charleston, Columbia, Beaufort and Orangeburg, did what we were supposed to do

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Yes people want to be a part of something. That's just basic human nature. But what you're not accounting for is another part of human nature which is greed and people not wanting to feel like someone else or another group has one up on them. Combine with the socialization of race and racism and class and you get people who don't mind their group benefitting so long as whoever they've been taught to hate doesn't get as much or morer

Desiring being part of something isn't basic human nature in a political.

We are talking about fascism and a fascist movement vs. a basic simple liberal party.

Fascism always wins vs. liberalism because fascism addresses what liberalism does not. Fascism addresses lack of unity, alienation, national pride and capitalistic competition.

The standard liberal American view of, "Well they just hate minorities and want free shit" when Republicans aren't giving anybody anything and Dark MAGA Elon said his economic policy will cause harm doesn't pass the test.

Thinking about why Trump won the popular vote and the election using a rational liberal view of the world is obscuring the reality of MAGA.

Trump voters have decided they want to burn it all down and unify the country under national pride, unity, militarism and industry. They aren't thinking about racial groups as much as they are thinking about who is going to be loyal to their cause and who belongs. They aren't thinking about individual wealth but national wealth and who produces that wealth.

There's opportunists in every movement that runs off with the bag but this is a legit fascist movement that has been bubbling since 2008 with a clear ideology that true believers hold and they aren't thinking about tax cuts lol.
 
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