No. You don"t.

Master P wasn't talking bout what mindset a movie was birthed from or any other thing you wanna bring up.
bruh.......

i was asking your question on do i feel the same way about boyz n tha hood and menace 2 society, and that was MY REASON why i didn't....

of course that had nothing to do with P was asked, cuz he wasn't talking about them shits
 
You've already been asked a very direct question multiple times. Don't play stupid man. That's damn near as bad as playing victim.
and this isn't a question,. so you don't want answers clearly
 
i've literally answered everything proposed to me, yall just don't like my answers cuz they don't go along with what yall wanna hear, that's not playing victim, that's stating the situation as it is
 
and this isn't a question,. so you don't want answers clearly

I'm not about to play silly ass games because you're unwilling to answer a simple question. For reasons clear to everyone.

Play the role of unknowing victim instead.
 
Master P said Black Panther success didn't benefit black people/community cuz it wasn't OWNED by black folks. Despite the fact the majority of the cast and crew was black.

You C/S it.
yes i did. I understood the point he was making. Black people may have embraced Black panther, but they did not create him. to be that excitred about something black people didn't create bothered him especially when there were oth things thta they could apply the same energy to that they did create.






I asked do you feel the same about other black films, that had a majority black cast and crew, that wasn't owned by black folks.

It was that simple.
while this has nothing to fucking do with P's interview, no I personally do not feel the same way about many movies of the 90's that had studio backing, because i feel those were black stories written and told by black people who just needed a studio's help to break it into Hollywood.. i do not view them the same



is that better?
 
I'm not about to play silly ass games because you're unwilling to answer a simple question. For reasons clear to everyone.

Play the role of unknowing victim instead.
i'm playing silly ass games, but you have yet to ask the question. cuz i'm trying hard to find out where i'm dodging questions
 
Does P and @Duwop feel the same bout Menace, Boyz n Tha Hood, Friday etc.

Cuz there's no difference between them and BP. Black directors, writers, cast, that white movie companys are eating off of.
there is a difference, i disagree. i explained the difference, but since yall wanna hear the same shit over and over again...

the difference between BP and Menace, Boyz n Tha Hood, Friday etc.


BP=comic book character created to show color in marvel comics. movie made to add color and inclusion to the MCU


Menace, Boyz n Tha Hood, Friday etc. =movies written and brought to live by black film writers who worked with large studios to get their work on the big screen


i do not view them the same
 
Notice you left out the point.

I'm not talking bout the content of the movies, cuz P wasn't talking bout the content of the movies.

So I'll ask again,

Does P and @Duwop feel the same bout Menace, Boyz n Tha Hood, Friday etc.

Cuz there's no difference between them and BP. Black directors, writers, cast, that white movie companys are eating off of.
again, my answer is not the same as P
s answer because you are introducing talking points that were not in P's answer.

i get what you are sayign about the studios, but I....du.....me....I do not personally view them as the same because of all the reasons i listed
 
yes i did. I understood the point he was making. Black people may have embraced Black panther, but they did not create him. to be that excitred about something black people didn't create bothered him especially when there were oth things thta they could apply the same energy to that they did create.







while this has nothing to fucking do with P's interview, no I personally do not feel the same way about many movies of the 90's that had studio backing, because i feel those were black stories written and told by black people who just needed a studio's help to break it into Hollywood.. i do not view them the same



is that better?

So your cool w/ those white studios being the main profiteers of those black films just not BP(even tho that's the complete opposite of what Master P was talking about).


Cool. Just keep that same energy when WB/DC go with the John Stweart Green Lateran.
 
So your cool w/ those white studios being the main profiteers of those black films

again.

if black folk are making their own movies, and using the bigger white studios to make it on the big screen, i don't look at that as the same as a major studios adding black characters to their already established product for the sake of inclusion.

didn't say i hate it, i just dont see it the same....
Cool. Just keep that same energy when WB/DC go with the John Stweart Green Lateran.
again stupid point to make, cuz i would never act like a black green lantern is the most important black movie in the world...i wouldn't make it as big of a deal as everyone made over BP...

i'd be hype to see a good movie, but that's it......many people felt BP was more than just a movie....that was my issue....P just pointing out from a business/ownership standpoint...

which i agreed with, but for MY reasons
 
Then why'd you C/S him then?

Cuz he said something negative bout BP?
cuz i thought he made some good arguments, and i have an independent mind that can receive information, process information, and develop my own reasons for thinking something is a good argument without it having to be verbatim what they said....
 
again stupid point to make, cuz i would never act like a black green lantern is the most important black movie in the world...i wouldn't make it as big of a deal as everyone made over BP...

i'd be hype to see a good movie, but that's it......many people felt BP was more than just a movie....that was my issue....P just pointing out from a business/ownership standpoint...

which i agreed with, but for MY reasons



No it's not stupid cuz all WB/DC would be doing is...

adding black characters to their already established product for the sake of inclusion.


......Right? :hahaha:


Already coming up w/ excuses for DC doing the same thing.

You got tho.
 
i mean that's exactly what black lightning was....and i thought it was good too....

i found it funny that no one gave it the same energy
 
What's even funnier is DCU movie Justice League put Cyborg as a founding member when he wasn't. All the founding members for the original Justice League were white.
that's a dope post and i'm well aware of everything you said.

still doesn't change the entire premise of this entire debate.

Embracing something and making it your own is what Black People did with BP, and that's cool.

Coates is from bmore, i remember when he became the writer of BP, it was a semi big deal. And i like how they made the characters fit into todays world.....

i never once said i disliked the movie at all....so again, people constantly miss my critique as hate....

I'm pointing out that BP was ALWAYS something GIVEN to us to appease the demand for more representation. The character's entire incarnation was fro inclusion, and so that there can at the least be one big black face in the sea of white comic book characters.

over the last decade or so, strides have been made to make BP a bigger character and bring him to the forefront, as seen by the recent changes in the characters direction, and including him in the already successful MCU... but again... this was a calculated and strategic effort....

When homie asked about them other movies.... the whole thing is different....there's a big difference between black movie makers looking to make a movie and gettign help from a big studio to get their art out there...

than an already big and established company, creating a black character and adding it to their already successful formula...

that's not a knock, it's calling it what it is..

P's take on it is that niggaz jumped on BP like we really did that, like that shit was really something that black people created and made to be great....


naw that shit was a white creation, and placed on their already established platform, just so we could have a hero too....

his point is if you really wanna celebrate black cinema and black story telling, support the smaller movies that are all black, and fighting to be seen on a screen the same energy.

and i agree


I respect what Master P said on not just being a spokesperson but actually trying to own what you cosign. He is 100% correct in that regard but he is also 100% wrong about black people not benefitting from that movie being made. I stated why I felt he was wrong in my previous post. He can be right about one statement and wrong about another because nobody is infallible. Lol.

The reason the Black Panther comic started getting pushed heavy again about 3 years ago is because they green lighted doing a movie, just like Captain America, Ironman, Thor, Captain Marvel, etc.. Historically the best selling Marvel comics were not the ones they did the MCU movies (the reasons Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic 4's movie rights got plucked by other studios) on, but Marvel was smart enough to try and use the hype of the movies to sell comics which is smart business.

I hate to be rude but I can't help but laugh at your "the Black Panther character was given to appease a certain demographic" statement. That's with anything being sold to the masses. Lmao. Comics as a whole is a genre of writing that was created to appease a certain demographic. Just like Big & Tall or lingerie stores, marketing for different genres of movies, music, food, etc. are. Lmao.

The thing that rubs some people (including myself) the wrong way about your statements (or the way it's being perceived) is the negative connotation behind them. It comes off as if you feel the only reason the character got a movie is because he is black and the movie served no purpose to the the over arching story line. But that isnt totally (I can admit having a black character does help make them money) the case because Black Panther (well before the movie) was a member of the Avengers and an important member in the Civil War comics. His character and country was also important in the MCU films as Ultron and Captain America's shield was built out of materials that came from his home country and his technology was there to aid the Avengers in their time of need.
 
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