Bernie Sanders and the Look

[AP4.0]

The mayor using the city's budget, to clean up blighted property is not having power, having power would be cleaning up all blighted property in the city which they both hasn't done (both mayors in BR and in NO). Just doing a few houses here or there and getting on TV for a media blitz about you spending a day to clean up debris means nothing.

White churches start up summer programs all the time, in fact, white churches and white communities (the gated ones) (black folks don't have communities, we have neighborhoods) are the ones that start up these summer programs, and day-cares, those private schools that you posted in your other thread that get those funds vs the black schools, there's a reason for their funds that they get, they get to start up summer programs for (their kids), the mayor has nothing to do with that. As I stated, mayors have no power, especially black mayors.

Black ppl cannot change the life course for a group of white folks, no matter what position that hold.

brah, come on

we take two steps forward, then 10 back

so, whats a reasonable timeframe to clean up EVERY single dilapidated property in the city? What's a reasonable timeframe to clean up EVERY single piece of blight?

what about the time to organize all the volunteers who do come out? And most importantly, the shit not free...there were no fundraisers to cover costs, so she had to spend money from the city's budget to do so

i feel like you just really want to take every single suggestion and dissect it to come back and say "well what about ....well what about"

If the mayor didnt have ANY power as you are suggesting, why do they exist?

but again, you are trying to combat my examples with rebuttals, but you doing a bad job b/c you keep trying to take what im saying out of context to so that it doesnt fit the narrative YOU want pushed.

Did i say the mayor did all of those things i listed exclusively? Ofc black people can organize in their own communities and get these initiatives done, but a lot of the times, they dont know the who to call's or the process to get stuff approved if you need permits and shit, BUT, if you have a direct line to the mayor's office...oh idk, maybe they can push a lot of that shit through with no issue or make the calls needed to make shit shake

Now, if your position is to completely remove politics from black communities altogether, even at the most basic local level...ok...then what?

 

[Mister]

How many times did y'all use the word tangible before last year?

 

[SneakDZA]

How many times did y'all use the word tangible before last year?

Dude... they're like parrots. Ask them what tangibles means specifically if you want to hear utter silence.

This is what happens when you draw all your information directly from a very limited set of youtube personalities.

Niggas posting 13 second clips of absolutely nothing happening like... "Got him!"

 

[WilberDMillz]

Somebody needs to ask Trump what is his "black agenda" & thoughts on reperations is

I was going to ask something like this. Are they only asking Democratic politicians this? if so, shouldn't we ask ALL politicians?

 

[Knock_Twice]

brah, come on

we take two steps forward, then 10 back

so, whats a reasonable timeframe to clean up EVERY single dilapidated property in the city? What's a reasonable timeframe to clean up EVERY single piece of blight?

what about the time to organize all the volunteers who do come out? And most importantly, the shit not free...there were no fundraisers to cover costs, so she had to spend money from the city's budget to do so

i feel like you just really want to take every single suggestion and dissect it to come back and say "well what about ....well what about"

If the mayor didnt have ANY power as you are suggesting, why do they exist?

but again, you are trying to combat my examples with rebuttals, but you doing a bad job b/c you keep trying to take what im saying out of context to so that it doesnt fit the narrative YOU want pushed.

Did i say the mayor did all of those things i listed exclusively? Ofc black people can organize in their own communities and get these initiatives done, but a lot of the times, they dont know the who to call's or the process to get stuff approved if you need permits and shit, BUT, if you have a direct line to the mayor's office...oh idk, maybe they can push a lot of that shit through with no issue or make the calls needed to make shit shake

Now, if your position is to completely remove politics from black communities altogether, even at the most basic local level...ok...then what?

If she has power, it shouldn't take her (them) no time. I bet if blighted properties were in a white communities or in the Asian communities , those issues would have been addressed. Then it's not like it's a slew of blighted properties around the city, just in certain areas (black), you point out a section in the city and you work on that section, knocking down 3 or 4 homes and getting on the media and saying you're cleaning up the neighborhood aint power breh. Deacon board members, the ppl of the community has done more cleaning up blighted properties than the mayor has in both cities.

When I said the mayor has no power, you listed things such as blighted property and funding summer programs) in which other ppl can do those things themselves. That's not power when other folks can do what you do breh. That's the point I'm trying to say about mayors and having power that you say that they have.

There's a reason there are no black governors and black mayors

 

[Knock_Twice]

Trump giving out reparations or doing something for black folks would destroy the democratic party into pieces.

 

[AP4.0]

If she has power, it shouldn't take her (them) no time. I bet if blighted properties were in a white communities or in the Asian communities , those issues would have been addressed. Then it's not like it's a slew of blighted properties around the city, just in certain areas (black), you point out a section in the city and you work on that section, knocking down 3 or 4 homes and getting on the media and saying you're cleaning up the neighborhood aint power breh. Deacon board members, the ppl of the community has done more cleaning up blighted properties than the mayor has in both cities.

When I said the mayor has no power, you listed things such as blighted property and funding summer programs) in which other ppl can do those things themselves. That's not power when other folks can do what you do breh. That's the point I'm trying to say about mayors and having power that you say that they have.

There's a reason there are no black governors and black mayors

gotcha

 

[Black Caesar]

There are black mayors every where, but there are no black governors...

My state VA had a black Governor and so far the ONLY back in the 90's named Doug Wilder.

 

[Disanthrope]

Dude... they're like parrots. Ask them what tangibles means specifically if you want to hear utter silence.

This is what happens when you draw all your information directly from a very limited set of youtube personalities.

Niggas posting 13 second clips of absolutely nothing happening like... "Got him!"

Whats wrong with parroting tangibles tho? Black people are actually trying to hold democrats accountable this time around, why do you have a problem with that?

 

[AP4.0]

Whats wrong with parroting tangibles tho? Black people are actually trying to hold democrats accountable this time around, why do you have a problem with that?

why is the discussion always limited to democrats?

 

[Disanthrope]

why is the discussion always limited to democrats?

Facts but Democrats are specifically campaigning for the black vote right now.

 

[SneakDZA]

Facts but Democrats are specifically campaigning for the black vote right now.

The side effect then becomes the republicans don't have to do jack shit for black people since all they have to do is wait for us to not vote since we didn't get no "tangibles".

Then they win and we still don't get "tangibles". Sounds like a solid strategy.

 

[Black Caesar]

The side effect then becomes the republicans don't have to do jack shit for black people since all they have to do is wait for us to not vote since we didn't get no "tangibles".

Then they win and we still don't get "tangibles". Sounds like a solid strategy.

As opposed to the democrats that already ain't doing shit, so why give the vote? It's the old "If you don't vote Democrat, bad things will happen. Oh Lordy!"

 

[Knock_Twice]

The side effect then becomes the republicans don't have to do jack shit for black people since all they have to do is wait for us to not vote since we didn't get no "tangibles".

Then they win and we still don't get "tangibles". Sounds like a solid strategy.

I thought republicans (conservatives) the word conserve means to protect and hold on to, don't allocate resources to anybody but themselves, so why would black folks expect Reps to offer them anything when they already claim that they don't want to do anything for black ppl??

What's your solution and what should black folks be doing, I'm curious?

Why you think black folks shouldn't say anything, up and down this thread and other threads, you've been against black folks asking for things as tangibles, so what should black folks be asking for from both politicians?

 

[SneakDZA]

There are things that some of us care about besides a reparations check. As an adult I have to make decisions based on the realistic outcomes not based on what I personally would like in an ideal world.

 

[d.dubb]

Cant black ppl just sue the government for reparations rather than badger politicians? This is a lost wage issue at its core along with pain and suffering. And im not with cutting checks, its gonna be that Chappelle skit irl. Free college low and no interest loans would be a good start..

 

[Black Caesar]

There are things that some of us care about besides a reparations check. As an adult I have to make decisions based on the realistic outcomes not based on what I personally would like in an ideal world.

So you don't care about getting what's yours when our ancestors built this country? What do you care about more than that?

 

[Knock_Twice]

There are things that some of us care about besides a reparations check. As an adult I have to make decisions based on the realistic outcomes not based on what I personally would like in an ideal world.

What are these things specific that you think black folks should be caring about and asking these politicians to do for black folks?

 

[Mister]

Cant black ppl just sue the government for reparations rather than badger politicians? This is a lost wage issue at its core along with pain and suffering. And im not with cutting checks, its gonna be that Chappelle skit irl. Free college low and no interest loans would be a good start..

Can one of our legal experts give an educated answer to the bold? Is that a feasible action?

 

[SneakDZA]

So you don't care about getting what's yours when our ancestors built this country? What do you care about more than that?

What are these things specific that you think black folks should be caring about and asking these politicians to do for black folks?

Where are you guys getting this "don't care about/care about more" nonsense from? I said there are things that I care about besides. Meaning this... it's all well and good to make demands of politicians - that's what you're supposed to do.

But to say you're going to hold your breath until you get everything you specifically want is not productive if that person is going to give you 70% of what you want versus the other one who will give you 0.