Should kids be free to express themselves through style?

[BDP™️]

are you familiar with the Wodabbe tribe in Africa?

Black men wearing dresses ain't nothing new.

peep game----- they also wear makeup too.


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Gender expression, perception varies wildly throughout the world culturally and geographically.

I see men in the Middle East, Africa, Polynesia etc wearing things that would be read as women's dresses and skirts in the US.

Thats fucking awesome...

but again...yall cut the shit...

its all fine and good that those cultures are more liberal than others...

but HERE in the US where we live...thats not our culture...so what the fuck men do and what masculinity is in the Middle East, Africa and Europe is irrelevant love

 

[MissK]

I see both sides. I was and am much more liberal with what mine wear but there are limits. This also extends to name brands-I am not buying expensive clothes for you to throw on the floor.

I wouldn't want my daughter in grown stuff either.

I think this is what a lot of men are afraid of. I spoilered it so you have been warned lol

Spoiler

 

[Duwop]

everybody dies

 

[Golden]

and for the record I wasnt assuming that all parents are...

Then why did u bring it up? What place or relevance did it have in the thread?

I don't have a peer approach to parenting n there's no evidence to suggest @Race Jones does either. That's a reach to characterize anyone who disagrees with you as subscribing to an opposite extreme.

 

[Reesey]

are you familiar with the Wodabbe tribe in Africa?

Black men wearing dresses ain't nothing new.

peep game----- they also wear makeup too.


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Gender expression, perception varies wildly throughout the world culturally and geographically.

I see men in the Middle East, Africa, Polynesia etc wearing things that would be read as women's dresses and skirts in the US.

That is all fine and dandy love bucket. In the same breath, there are "meanings" behind why they do what they do in such tribes in Africa.

Meanings that are not translated here in the US and the young men that are throwing on dresses here are not doing it for those reasons. haha.

We may be African, but we were not raised in these cultures so it is difficult to just grab a hold to them ALL as a defense to doing weird ISH.

That's like folks quoting a portion of the bible only when it benefits them.

I respect the tribal men who wear dresses and makeup for their cultural reasons, but we do not share them here and if we did perhaps it would be a different story.

 

[MissK]

on a side note...

thats whats wrong with a lot of these younger kids...parents trying to be thier childs friend and shit.

naw...Im not your fucking friend bruh...Im your dad.

we can be friends once you become a grown man and you stand on your own two...thats where that aspect of the relationship comes into play

I tell mine all the time I am not your friend
I have seen some kids tell some of their parents shit that I would put mine in the damn ground for saying. nope nope nope

 

[Old Man Cain]

are you familiar with the Wodabbe tribe in Africa?

Black men wearing dresses ain't nothing new.

peep game----- they also wear makeup too.


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Gender expression, perception varies wildly throughout the world culturally and geographically.

I see men in the Middle East, Africa, Polynesia etc wearing things that would be read as women's dresses and skirts, in the US.

Don't go there bro.

African traditions is a beautiful thing IN AFRICA but CAIN MARKO'S TRADITON is in my house you're going to follow my rules. When he has his house he can do WTF he wants to do.

 

[Race Jones]

I think people have such a limited world view.

I also think Black people are under some type of colonial neurosis in this country

White people have you buying into gender hierarchies and heterosexist ideas.

They taught you to think in a very basic, limiting way.

They taught you such rigid ideas when it comes to masculinity and femininity.

Your son isnt about to put on some skinny jeans and WAHLA magic now hes sucking dick behind the bleachers

thats not how any of this shit works.
plus there's nothing you can do as a parent to stop your child from being what they are (gay, trans, etc)

so all these restrictions are really unnecessary.

your parenting skills are steeped in homophobia.
and thats so wack to me.

Read about pre-colonial Africa.
alot of your views are tied to westernized thinking.

youre not as *woke* as you think
.....in fact you sound like white men.
DECOLONIZE YO MIND MY NIGGA.

 

[Joshie Kahn]

I see both sides. I was and am much more liberal with what mine wear but there are limits. This also extends to name brands-I am not buying expensive clothes for you to throw on the floor.

I wouldn't want my daughter in grown stuff either.

I think this is what a lot of men are afraid of. I spoilered it so you have been warned lol

Spoiler

:dead2: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

This is what a lot of fathers fear when they hear/think about letting their kids and sons in particular be free to express themselves. But in reality, the photo above is a tiny minority of what would be worn. And to be honest kids like the one in the photo above are gonna find a way to express themselves anyway, because they're outside the norm. My 2c

 

[Old Man Cain]

A runny nose isn't self expression, it's a sign of mismanaged health or ill-preparation (giving them kleenex n so on) of whomever is caring for them.

That signifies a care problem. Aint got shit to do with self expression because a runny nose isn't something controlled by the child or an elective decision made by them.

Ur example was faulty af my nigga. That's like saying a sore throat is a speech choice.

My nigga, you're focused on a runny nose focus on the fact they were letting 2yr old do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. All daycare facilities will have a children with runny noses or sick or WTF ever but I am saying children need structure.

 

[Duwop]

naw, leave my mind alone.

I like it here...it's where i live.

 

[BDP™️]

Then why did u bring it up? What place or relevance did it have in the thread?

I don't have a peer approach to parenting n there's no evidence to suggest @Race Jones does either. That's a reach to characterize anyone who disagrees with you as subscribing to an opposite extreme.

like I said CUT THE SHIT b...

didnt say all parents...just some, hell I think I may have said a lot...and I say that because I have firsthand, realtime experience love...

I work with teenagers and kids everyday...

I see the effects of peer based parenting firsthand...so thats where that statement derives from.

 

[Race Jones]

Don't go there bro.

African traditions is a beautiful thing IN AFRICA but CAIN MARKO'S TRADITON is in my house you're going to follow my rules. When he has his house he can do WTF he wants to do.

Just saying




:wecool:

 

[Race Jones]

naw, leave my mind alone.

I like it here...it's where i live.

we all are learning and unlearning.

I mean that should be the goal for all of us as a people.

you arent growing if you aint constantly feeding your mind.
reading books, watching documentaries* etc.

cant be thinking the same tired shit you were thinking last year.

thats a sign you arent evolving.

again,
expand yo mind DU!!!!

 

[Old Man Cain]

I think people have such a limited world view.

I also think Black people are under some type of colonial neurosis in this country

White people have you buying into gender hierarchies and heterosexist ideas.

They taught you to think in a very basic, limiting way.

They taught you such rigid ideas when it comes to masculinity and femininity.

Your son isnt about to put on some skinny jeans and WAHLA magic now hes sucking dick behind the bleachers

thats not how any of this shit works.
plus there's nothing you can do as a parent to stop your child from being what they are (gay, trans, etc)

so all these restrictions are really unnecessary.

your parenting skills are steeped in homophobia.
and thats so wack to me.

Read about pre-colonial Africa.
alot of your views are tied to westernized thinking.

youre not as *woke* as you think
.....in fact you sound like white men.
DECOLONIZE YO MIND MY NIGGA.

Ayo.......Fuck all that African shit b. I'm in NC raising a black boy to be a man. Not some twinkle toed fuck nigga. When is a man and own his on he can do whatever the fuck he wants but under my roof he's going to dress a certain way, get A's and B's go to college, then after that fuck it.

 

[Old Man Cain]

Y'all goofy ass let lil man-man dress up like a fuck nigga got my migraine hurting even more. Please KYS's first chance you get


@themasterkey get your girls b

 

[Golden]

Don't go there bro.

African traditions is a beautiful thing IN AFRICA but CAIN MARKO'S TRADITON is in my house you're going to follow my rules. When he has his house he can do WTF he wants to do.

Where do Cain Marko's aesthetic traditions come from, pray tell? Let's go way back why don't we.

Thats fucking awesome...

but again...yall cut the shit...

its all fine and good that those cultures are more liberal than others...

but HERE in the US where we live...thats not our culture...so what the fuck men do and what masculinity is in the Middle East, Africa and Europe is irrelevant love

Those cultures aren't more liberal than others. They're adhering to their traditions without the intervention of western (eurocentric) notions.

Trousers/pants weren't customary in many African cultures until European colonial intervention. Black people followed our own customs until they were stolen from us and we were brought to the USA. Now you say pre-Western customs are irrelevant because your masculinity exists in the vacuum of a USA context, while divorcing it from it's origins. Which is cool but call it what it is. Eurocentric and westernized.

Y'all are associating anything that deviates from your idea of masculinity with whiteness or anti-blackness or anti-black masculinity, when if we're gonna be discussing black masculinity period u can't be ignorant to the fact that black people were existing outside of the USA far longer than we were within it.

 

[BDP™️]

Ayo.......Fuck all that African shit b. I'm in NC raising a black boy to be a man. Not some twinkle toed fuck nigga. When is a man and own his on he can do whatever the fuck he wants but under my roof he's going to dress a certain way, get A's and B's go to college, then after that fuck it.

 

[Golden]

Y'all goofy ass let lil man-man dress up like a fuck nigga got my migraine hurting even more. Please KYS's first chance you get


@themasterkey get your girls b

Nope. My spawn will be black excellence... n still wear most of what they wanna.

 

[Old Man Cain]

@Reesey brang yo foul mouth in here and talk to these niggas mane. My head hurts