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When is it okay to open up to your woman?

So being open with your woman is now nonsense?

If every time you stuck your hand in fire, and you experienced pain and got burned for doing it, would you not learn to stop sticking your hand in fire?

Would you not talk about sticking your hand in fire as if it was "nonsense"???

Look, I get it: Y'all want men to be vulnerable and soft and shit. The problem is men's expressions of vulnerability are routinely used against them by the women they open up to, in some cases from early childhood and by their own mothers. Y'all want us to open up more? Stop using the convos your sons, brothers, cousins and friends come to you with against them. Don't keep it in the tuck to fire back at him later on down the line. I've said this in another thread: Once that wall goes up early in life it's near impossible to tear it down for other women.

I got a couple of my boys and my cousins that I've been able to kick it with on a level like that. We all grown ass men dealing with grown ass men shit, and it can get to you in some pretty severe ways so you need someone to talk about this shit with. The difference is that none of us would ever in a million years think to betray the other by using that information against him. I wouldn't even tell my cousin's siblings what one may have told me was bothering him.
 
Never, no matter what she says.

Never in your life open up to a woman that you are interested about anything. Be an emotional, psychological mystery.

Strippers, bartenders, escorts and therapists are for opening up to. I'll cry on a bitch shoulder that is explicitly paid to be there.

The pursuit of sex and companionship by men by default means they never are put in a situation where they have to be likable and develop their personality to conform to the needs and expectations of men they are romantically interested in.

They can be as cutthroat, cruel, petulant as they want to be, a man will be there to catch them as they fall. The average cute chick at Wal-Mart knows that, if not admitting to it, they know it subconsciously.

Men on the other hand, we actually have to try to be likable because nobody gives a fuck about the average man.

I've been dirt poor, I've been average, I've been nigga rich, it's different levels to the respect and admiration you get as a man, according to your wealth and status.

If you ain't no talented, misunderstood, brilliant motherfucker with money, therefore your moods and emotions highlight how complicated you are, don't say shit. Elon Musks girlfriend will wipe the boogers and snob from his face while giving him a handjob as he cries about his childhood, your girlfriend or wife won't.

You an average man, talking about your feelings and your past, the pussy gonna dry up, no matter what she says she wants you to do.

The role of a man in a romantic relationship is to be fortress, a castle, for a woman to put all her bullshit into for you to sort out. She can't do that if you giving her more shit to think about and feel.
 
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It's also interesting the shitty human traits that people peg to one demographic instead of realizing it's the majority of people who fit the bill of what they're talking about.
 
If every time you stuck your hand in fire, and you experienced pain and got burned for doing it, would you not learn to stop sticking your hand in fire?

Would you not talk about sticking your hand in fire as if it was "nonsense"???

Look, I get it: Y'all want men to be vulnerable and soft and shit. The problem is men's expressions of vulnerability are routinely used against them by the women they open up to, in some cases from early childhood and by their own mothers. Y'all want us to open up more? Stop using the convos your sons, brothers, cousins and friends come to you with against them. Don't keep it in the tuck to fire back at him later on down the line. I've said this in another thread: Once that wall goes up early in life it's near impossible to tear it down for other women.

I got a couple of my boys and my cousins that I've been able to kick it with on a level like that. We all grown ass men dealing with grown ass men shit, and it can get to you in some pretty severe ways so you need someone to talk about this shit with. The difference is that none of us would ever in a million years think to betray the other by using that information against him. I wouldn't even tell my cousin's siblings what one may have told me was bothering him.

As someone who grew up with a mother who did that I 100% get the sentiment...but I also don't hold all accountable for the mistakes a few made. That's not only not fair to them but you risk missing out on some great things that way.
 
As someone who grew up with a mother who did that I 100% get the sentiment...but I also don't hold all accountable for the mistakes a few made. That's not only not fair to them but you risk missing out on some great things that way.

Fam... I was married for 20 years, I really don't think I've missed out on much.
 
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If every time you stuck your hand in fire, and you experienced pain and got burned for doing it, would you not learn to stop sticking your hand in fire?

Would you not talk about sticking your hand in fire as if it was "nonsense"???

Look, I get it: Y'all want men to be vulnerable and soft and shit. The problem is men's expressions of vulnerability are routinely used against them by the women they open up to, in some cases from early childhood and by their own mothers. Y'all want us to open up more? Stop using the convos your sons, brothers, cousins and friends come to you with against them. Don't keep it in the tuck to fire back at him later on down the line. I've said this in another thread: Once that wall goes up early in life it's near impossible to tear it down for other women.

I got a couple of my boys and my cousins that I've been able to kick it with on a level like that. We all grown ass men dealing with grown ass men shit, and it can get to you in some pretty severe ways so you need someone to talk about this shit with. The difference is that none of us would ever in a million years think to betray the other by using that information against him. I wouldn't even tell my cousin's siblings what one may have told me was bothering him.
So by your logic since I've been cheated on in the past then I'm justified to treat any other man I encounter as a cheater....

And I get that boys don't get be as emotional as girls growing up, but that doesn't excuse not openly communicating with your partner as an adult. We all have things that have happened in our childhood that shaped us, that needed correction as we become critical thinking adults. If you know better, then do better...
 
So by your logic since I've been cheated on in the past then I'm justified to treat any other man I encounter as a cheater....

And I get that boys don't get be as emotional as girls growing up, but that doesn't excuse not openly communicating with your partner as an adult. We all have things that have happened in our childhood that shaped us, that needed correction as we become critical thinking adults. If you know better, then do better...

You’re making a straw man argument. That’s not what he said. I disagree with his conclusion, but if you’re gonna have a good faith discussion about it, that use what he actually said.
 
You’re making a straw man argument. That’s not what he said. I disagree with his conclusion, but if you’re gonna have a good faith discussion about it, that use what he actually said.
He said he doesn't open up to women because of his past interactions with women. How is that any different from what I said?
 
Why would you want to be with a woman that you can't vulnerable with???

Me, I think it's more that dudes rather not be vulnerable at all.

That said the whole "Never share your feelings with a woman cause she'll use them against you" mindset is weird. Like ya'll are with chicks that you think will use any opportunity they can to hurt you but at the same time fearlessly sticking your dick a woman's equivalent to a rat trap. Ok...
 
Then you probably know that considering opening up to your woman nonsense isn't the best way to maintain a strong relationship

There were things that she understood were off limits. Mind you, she knew considerably more about me than almost any other woman because we were best friends for 10 years before the nature of our relationship changed. We often confided in one another during those years. But, what was off limits while we were friends, remained off limits as husband and wife and she respected that boundary.
 
Me, I think it's more that dudes rather not be vulnerable at all.

That said the whole "Never share your feelings with a woman cause she'll use them against you" mindset is weird. Like ya'll are with chicks that you think will use any opportunity they can to hurt you but at the same time fearlessly sticking your dick a woman's equivalent to a rat trap. Ok...

That's a big part of it. In the minds of many a dude vulnerability equates to weakness, which no man wants to be seen as, especially in front of a woman.
 
Me, I think it's more that dudes rather not be vulnerable at all.

That said the whole "Never share your feelings with a woman cause she'll use them against you" mindset is weird. Like ya'll are with chicks that you think will use any opportunity they can to hurt you but at the same time fearlessly sticking your dick a woman's equivalent to a rat trap. Ok...

And the bold is something I'll never get
 
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