Disney+ Marvel's Loki

browncow said:
The path was to always go back in time to get the stones, which they did. Loki getting the stone was always going to happen. They were always going to fial in 2012, Loki was always going to get the stone, and they were always going to get back far to the 70s.

If you go back and watch the episode they tell you how multiple alternate timelines were crashing into each other and cause a war, Loki taking the tesseract being one of them.
The TVA is preventing the problematic timeline the Loki would create before he can create it.
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Your last sentence contradicts your first paragraph. If this was always the path, and the path leads to this problematic timeline, then what makes it problematic? If Loki was always going to get the stone, what makes him a variant?
 
Inori said:
what if the other Loki variant was always meant to be on her bullshit and THIS Loki was always meant to deviate from his timeline and get apprehended to help the TVA to apprehend her

:think2:

lol
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Possibility
Like I said, there's some hidden agendas going on probably.
But it looks like wherever the TVA is, it's out side of the normal timeline, so anything happening there probably isn't what is always meant to happen
 
MorganFreemanKing said:
Your last sentence contradicts your first paragraph. If this was always the path, and the path leads to this problematic timeline, then what makes it problematic? If Loki was always going to get the stone, what makes him a variant?
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Because the time keepers or whatever they call themselves deemed him as a variant because they alternate timeline he creates becomes problematic..
To them all this shit has happened already, what they're doing is just cleaning up, decluttering, and streamlining the timeline.
 
Free Will vs. Pre-Determined Fate...

Any bets that Loki attempts to kill one, some or all of the Time-Keepers before the season is finished?
 
Infamous114 said:
Loki was not supposed to get the tesseract....Ravonna said that in the episode.
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She only said that because it's what she was told.
If the Avengers time traveling was suppose to happen, then Loki getting the stone was suppose to happen. There was no outside interference that would have lead to Loki getting the stone otherwise
 
Inori said:
Free Will vs. Pre-Determined Fate...

Any bets that Loki attempts to kill one, some or all of the Time-Keepers before the season is finished?
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I wouldn't be surprised. But I do bet that the keepers are the same person from different timelines
 
Shenco said:
So why didn't they prevent the Avengers from creating an alternate timeline? Why they not cleaning up after Steve for going back in time and creating an alternate timeline?

If the goal is to prevent alternate timelines from happening then what about the avengers going back and creating multiple alternate timelines? How was that supposed to happen? That's why I said the time travel explanation in Endgame made no sense lol.

You can't tell me there's a group preserving the timeline after you just showed me a movie all about not preserving the timeline.
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The Avengers put the stones back which

prevents the branched timelines.
 
AP2.0 said:
Huh
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Okay. Captain America crashes in the ice in 1945(Captain America: first avenger). Wakes up 70 years later to present day and joins the Avengers in 2012. Continues on to Infinity War. At the end of Endgame in 2023, he goes back in time to put the stones and Mjolnir back in their proper places. Instead of coming back through that machine, he stayed in the past and lived his life with Peggy Carter. Which is why he was old when he gave Sam the Shield.

So he either made it so he never crashed into that ice in the first place, or he was existing within the same timeline as his frozen self. Either way it's a time variant, a different timeline, and another example of why the time travel in Endgame made NO SENSE AT ALL! LOL
 
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Shenco said:
Steve lived through the years he was supposed to be in ice though. That right there is a timeline being created
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Right there it gets confusing.
There are 2 ways you can look at it.
(1. The old Steve we see from another identical timeline. And the Steve that traveled back will end up like the old Steve we see but just in another branched timeline
(2. The old Steve we see is the same one that traveled back but he never changed the timeline, so it never branched off.
 
Chronologically everything from Captain America 1 to Infinity was the "Sacred" timeline. That was everything that was SUPPOSED to happen. Cool.

Okay. In Endgame they literally prevented everything in Infinity War from happening(time line change), allowed Loki to escape with the tesseract(timeline change), Cap was supposed to be on ice for 70 years but instead he lived through those years(timeline change)

Where was the TVA for any of that?
 
Shenco said:
Chronologically everything from Captain America 1 to Infinity was the "Sacred" timeline. That was everything that was SUPPOSED to happen. Cool.

Okay. In Endgame they literally prevented everything in Infinity War from happening(time line change), allowed Loki to escape with the tesseract(timeline change), Cap was supposed to be on ice for 70 years but instead he lived through those years(timeline change)

Where was the TVA for any of that?
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Allowing it to happen. Who's to say they didn't deemed that as part of the sacred timeline?
Cap was still frozen for those 70s, that didn't change

You don't seem to grasp that the timekeepers are time travelers that are pick and choosing what's sacred and what isn't.
All these alternate timelines were meant to happen and always did happen, they're just going through and "erasing" them
 
browncow said:
Allowing it to happen. Who's to say they didn't deemed that as part of the sacred timeline?
Cap was still frozen for those 70s, that didn't change

You don't seem to grasp that the timekeepers are time travelers that are pick and choosing what's sacred and what isn't.
All these alternate timelines were meant to happen and always did happen, they're just going through and "erasing" them
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So Cap was still frozen for those 70 years while his 2023 self went back and lived with Peggy Carter? So there were two Steve Rogers existing within the same timeline. One frozen and one living with Peggy Carter. That sounds like a time variance. If they deemed that part of the sacred timeline it proves the point that the time travel in Endgame made NO SENSE AT ALL and that meme I originally responded to, to be all the more true lol!
 
Shenco said:
So Cap was still frozen for those 70 years while his 2023 self went back and lived with Peggy Carter? So there were two Steve Rogers existing within the same timeline. One frozen and one living with Peggy Carter. That sounds like a time variance. If they deemed that part of the sacred timeline it proves the point that the time travel in Endgame made NO SENSE AT ALL and that meme I originally responded to, to be all the more true lol!
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Yes there were 2.
Yes that sound like a variance, but like I said they are deeming what is and isn't and if he had no impact in a negative way then I doubt they would care.
Endgame time travel made a lot of sense, they can not change the past.
 
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