Spinoff thread from the Dr Umar interview.

[BlackRain]

The fact that there's still people who fall for the idea that he's still working on this school is hilarious. And yeah the family of Frederick Douglas calling him out and the backtracking Umar tried to do while still throwing shots at them. This nigga is a pure fraud and it's no wonder the people who listen to him also tend to be easily misled by simply being told what they wanna hear even if there's no tangible actions behind the promises being given

 

[Soul_Rattler]

My wife is black, not lite skin or mixed.

It is what it is, this hotep ran off with the Money and it's been "under construction" indefinitely now. The investors can't get any transparency or information and there's no school in sight. Some asked for their money back to no avail. Charlatans steal money aaaalll the time. Find their money and give it back to them.

He calls himself a doctor but was proven not to have any psychology degrees at all, said he was a descendant of Frederick Douglas which the family vehemently disputed. Said Kobe Bryant was killed because of the pharmaceutical industry, on and on I could go. It is what it is.

Everything that you've said is just wrong.

1. You said his school is "under construction".

He bought the school. It's fully built. 2 buildings to be exact. Here he is walking through it


2. You said investors aren't given any transparency. But he shows the buildings almost weekly and let's everyone know that at this moment, he needs HVAC and plumbing repairs done. And on his website he offers 5 levels of investment that allows for more detailed information about the school progress IF you pay the investment fees.

But again, he explains alot to the public for free:

Exactly what transparency do you want? Assuming you've even donated?

3. You said there's no school in sight. But here's a video someone else made visibly showing the property.


4. You said he's not proven to have any psychology degrees. But the certificate is right here for you to see:

PDF document Verification_Certificate_148541533-2.pdf

www.pdf-archive.com

And even his detractors had to walk back their lies about him not being a doctor of clinical psychology:

I Was Wrong. His Name Is Doctor Umar Johnson

A little more than a week ago I wrote two scathing articles about Umar Johnson. I called him a charlatan (I think ... I call a lot of charlatans “charlatan”). I castigated him for taking people’s money without showing them where it went. I said that there was no evidence he ever tried to buy a...

www.theroot.com

5. You said the family denied that he was a descendant when that's not accurate. He said he is a blood relative of Frederick Douglas, not a biological grandchild, which they both agree as stated here:

‘Divisive’ Dr. Umar Johnson accused of misrepresentation by state psychology board | Metro Philadelphia

(Update: the psychology board took no immediate action after the Jan. 8 hearing and Dr.…

www.google.com

So why don't you know any of this? And again, where did he run away to? Answer the question.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Umar is a bigot. At this point will say outlandish shit for views and clout so be can sell the next thing he's selling. First off there's nothing wrong with interracial marriage, and to the niggas who cosign him but still be heavy in the Candy Shop or in DMs begging for mixed chicks you not being honest.

As for the school, dude is a charlatan. It aint a problem for Lebron, Deion Sanders, Will Smith, Puffy, or Magic Johnson to launch schools successfully. People don't want to send him money because he ran off with it.

I don't necessarily agree with him about interracial marriage, but he did give his reasoning for it. Instead of saying there's nothing wrong with interracial marriage, you could explain why you think his reasoning is wrong.

 

[Dwayne]

He’s a thief that kicks knowledge.

He’s nothing like Tariq.

 

[Allah_U_Akbar]

I feel kinda bad for him because I can see he’s very intelligent...

But, I can also see that he may be ”going through some things” mentally.

I watch videos of him speaking and he’ll repeat himself like 20 times...

”If illegal aliens are getting work visas, where are the jobs coming from?”

“If illegal aliens are getting work visas, where are the jobs coming from?”

“If illegal aliens are getting work visas, where are the jobs coming from?”








Now, repeat that another 10 times or so.... That’s what he does when he talks.

It’s real weird.

 

[IP360]

So what happened to all the money black people donated lol?

"Social media sensation and school psychologist Dr. Umar Johnson said his Black school for boys in Delaware would have been completed if it were not for the lack of support from Black people."

Dr. Umar Johnson Blames Regular Degular Black Folk for His Inability to Start Black School

Social media sensation and school psychologist Dr. Umar Johnson is blaming Black people for why his school has not been officially open for business.

www.blackenterprise.com

 

[Soul_Rattler]

What do yall mean "what happened to the money"?

He bought the school. Go to Wilmington, Delaware and see it for yourself. It's a pet peeve when people ask questions but don't give a fuck about the answer.

 

[SeaSnake]

This is a great example of "I don't know what I'm talking about, but I sholl love my white women"

Of course someone who aspires to marry non black women will think staying to one's own race is "outlandish". Different groups have managed to marry within for centuries but just because you want to do different in 2021, suddenly it's outlandish? That is foolishness.

Also, you don't know the difference between funding a state owned school versus a privately owned school. How can you say he "ran off" with the money but is still doing interviews and walking around with no protection in Wilmington? Where did he run off to?

Then where the school at?

 

[SeaSnake]

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Showing that building under construction

 

[Mafuzzychef]

Black people are hateful huh?

Most evil thing to walk the earth

 

[Loch121]

It's just a continuation of what whites put blacks through. If we were better we wouldn't be here honestly. It's not bad to be pro black and only wanna date other black people, but to look done on those that date others is wrong.

Black people are really starting to turn out like supremacists and it's scary.

Who's mans is this?

 

[Loch121]

It's not projecting if I know what you're going to say before you say it. If y'all wanna keep hatred going you can just say that.

Keep hatred going

 

[Loch121]

Everything that you've said is just wrong.

1. You said his school is "under construction".

He bought the school. It's fully built. 2 buildings to be exact. Here he is walking through it


2. You said investors aren't given any transparency. But he shows the buildings almost weekly and let's everyone know that at this moment, he needs HVAC and plumbing repairs done. And on his website he offers 5 levels of investment that allows for more detailed information about the school progress IF you pay the investment fees.

But again, he explains alot to the public for free:

Exactly what transparency do you want? Assuming you've even donated?

3. You said there's no school in sight. But here's a video someone else made visibly showing the property.


4. You said he's not proven to have any psychology degrees. But the certificate is right here for you to see:

PDF document Verification_Certificate_148541533-2.pdf

www.pdf-archive.com

And even his detractors had to walk back their lies about him not being a doctor of clinical psychology:

I Was Wrong. His Name Is Doctor Umar Johnson

A little more than a week ago I wrote two scathing articles about Umar Johnson. I called him a charlatan (I think ... I call a lot of charlatans “charlatan”). I castigated him for taking people’s money without showing them where it went. I said that there was no evidence he ever tried to buy a...

www.theroot.com

5. You said the family denied that he was a descendant when that's not accurate. He said he is a blood relative of Frederick Douglas, not a biological grandchild, which they both agree as stated here:

‘Divisive’ Dr. Umar Johnson accused of misrepresentation by state psychology board | Metro Philadelphia

(Update: the psychology board took no immediate action after the Jan. 8 hearing and Dr.…

www.google.com

So why don't you know any of this? And again, where did he run away to? Answer the question.

I think 2 things can be true.

he's a little sketchy,but he also be saying and doing some real shit too.

 

[Loch121]

 

[Old Man Cain]

Dr. Frances Cress Welsing talked about genetic annihilation.

Every group has a vested interest in self preservation. As a Black man, you'renot doing any favors to Blacks or whites when you marry white women becauseyou slow down the birthrate of whites with your mixed babies and any money you have is more likely, statistically, leaving the black community for good.

Lose lose for every group and for what? "Love"? Jungle fever?


How much time/attention do you think it takes to post a couple IG lives a week and answer a couple trendy questions in the middle of an interview?

He's spending the vast majority of his time crowd funding and maintaining public awareness of his school. What more do you want from him?

Late but science is one thing can't be argued with for the most part but no matter what science say love will over power science at the end of the day. IF a black person loves a white, asian or whatever and want that person to be in their life forever. That black person isn't going to worry about what science have to say

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Late but science is one thing can't be argued with for the most part but no matter what science say love will over power science at the end of the day. IF a black person loves a white, asian or whatever and want that person to be in their life forever. That black person isn't going to worry about what science have to say

There is no science in any of this shit. Science doesn't recognize human races the way they are defined in society. We're talking about preserving a bunch of made up bullshit groups. We as African Americans talk about preserving the black race, but before we were brought over here, our ancestors never thought like that. They didn't see other Africans as brothers or sisters because they were all black.

So, I'm not necessarily knocking the idea of African Americans to want to perceive what we call blackness, but it's not a matter of science.

 

[Mafuzzychef]

There is no science in any of this shit. Science doesn't recognize human races the way they are defined in society. We're talking about preserving a bunch of made up bullshit groups. We as African Americans talk about preserving the black race, but before we were brought over here, our ancestors never thought like that. They didn't see other Africans as brothers or sisters because they were all black.

So, I'm not necessarily knocking the idea of African Americans to want to perceive what we call blackness, but it's not a matter of science.

You don’t know what you’re talking about

you need to swyd

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You don’t know what you’re talking about

you need to swyd

I do know what I'm talking about. This has been well established.

Does Race Exist? | Duke University Science & Society

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The groups that we refer to as "races" have as much genetic variation within them and in some cases more variation than between those actual races. There is no biological basis between race as we define it. It was made up.

And if you believe all Africans thought of themselves as the same, you're an idiot. They don't even think that way now.

 

[Soul_Rattler]

Late but science is one thing can't be argued with for the most part but no matter what science say love will over power science at the end of the day. IF a black person loves a white, asian or whatever and want that person to be in their life forever. That black person isn't going to worry about what science have to say

You love who you love due to proximity and values.

But as Umar said, marriage isn't about love. It's about joining your life, family, and resources with someone else's. Marriage is a business. Relationships are a matter of time and money more than fleeting emotions. The trick is being emotionally invested in someone from another group.

 

[Dwayne]

You love who you love due to proximity and values.

But as Umar said, marriage isn't about love. It's about joining your life, family, and resources with someone else's. Marriage is a business. Relationships are a matter of time and money more than fleeting emotions. The trick is being emotionally invested in someone from another group.

Is he married?
Are You married?