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Kandy said:
I think he means he won’t stop referring to women as bitches. Maybe not the women on the site but when talking about women in general.
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even babymothers?

shit.......yall going too far now.
hole on now.
i draw the line there.
 
King Freeman said:
Will men be called feminine, soft, a pussy or sis when they disagree with females on here? Made to constantly have their anatomy challenged for having a difference of opinion?

I have no issues with trying to make a safe space for females on here. Even recall being clowned by some of the niggas posting in here for having the nerve to mention such a thing when I suggested an attempt to provide female posters with that type of space.

But I think what's being failed to mention in some specific instances is that the energy received was sometimes the energy given.

I don't come here to have my manhood challenged because I disagree with a female on an issue. Which has been my specific experience on this site with a few female posters.

I can admit I've made it hell for niggas like @BlackRain in the same vein I'm no hypocrite. But I've learned from that type of behavior and I've curbed it.

But niggas in here glossing over this. I think it needs to be acknowledged theres shitty behavior on both sides that needs to be openly identified and marked out for any of these solutions to work going forward.

I can acknowledge I've made some females in this thread uncomfortable but I feel that came from the position of being put in a place of discomfort from those same females which I've seen repeatedly get overlooked.

I also know I'm cool or at least cordial with the majority of females on the site.

I think people need to be real about themselves in some of these situations.

Niggas need to stop overly flirting, getting too familiar in PM's, shooting their shot at everything moving, send unsolicited pics and he-man woman hating, in every thread and inbox they can.

But females need to stop making false claims against niggas, running other females off, gas lighting, trolling, calling niggas out their name, calling niggas sis, talking about they mamas, calling em soft, and feminine for disagreeing with em, and hiding behind that same femininity when it's convenient.
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im glad someone said this.

spot on
 
King Freeman said:
But I think what's being failed to mention in some specific instances is that the energy received was sometimes the energy given.

I don't come here to have my manhood challenged because I disagree with a female on an issue. Which has been my specific experience on this site with a few female posters.

But females need to stop making false claims against niggas, running other females off, gas lighting, trolling, calling niggas out their name, calling niggas sis, talking about they mamas, calling em soft, and feminine for disagreeing with em, and hiding behind that same femininity when it's convenient.
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King Freeman said:
Will men be called feminine, soft, a pussy or sis when they disagree with females on here? Made to constantly have their anatomy challenged for having a difference of opinion?

I have no issues with trying to make a safe space for females on here. Even recall being clowned by some of the niggas posting in here for having the nerve to mention such a thing when I suggested an attempt to provide female posters with that type of space.

But I think what's being failed to mention in some specific instances is that the energy received was sometimes the energy given.

I don't come here to have my manhood challenged because I disagree with a female on an issue. Which has been my specific experience on this site with a few female posters.

I can admit I've made it hell for niggas like @BlackRain in the same vein I'm no hypocrite. But I've learned from that type of behavior and I've curbed it.

But niggas in here glossing over this. I think it needs to be acknowledged theres shitty behavior on both sides that needs to be openly identified and marked out for any of these solutions to work going forward.

I can acknowledge I've made some females in this thread uncomfortable but I feel that came from the position of being put in a place of discomfort from those same females which I've seen repeatedly get overlooked.

I also know I'm cool or at least cordial with the majority of females on the site.

I think people need to be real about themselves in some of these situations.

Niggas need to stop overly flirting, getting too familiar in PM's, shooting their shot at everything moving, send unsolicited pics and he-man woman hating, in every thread and inbox they can.

But females need to stop making false claims against niggas, running other females off, gas lighting, trolling, calling niggas out their name, calling niggas sis, talking about they mamas, calling em soft, and feminine for disagreeing with em, and hiding behind that same femininity when it's convenient.
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Be honest, given the demographics of this site which do you see more? Men doing the things women spoke about or women doing the things you spoke about? Given that this site is majority men, it's going to be the former which means going by the logic being used in a few threads at the moment that would be the bigger issue to deal with. If you were to disagree on a topic a male poster is more likely to try and call you out your name or say something to try and challenge your manhood. The shit you're talking about seems to be mainly from one poster not the majority of women that choose to still post here. Meanwhile you can go through any thread and find any number of comments speaking negatively on any poster who goes says something that others deem as being soft or "not on code" for whatever the topic may be.
 
BlackRain said:
Be honest, given the demographics of this site which do you see more? Men doing the things women spoke about or women doing the things you spoke about? Given that this site is majority men, it's going to be the former which means going by the logic being used in a few threads at the moment that would be the bigger issue to deal with. If you were to disagree on a topic a male poster is more likely to try and call you out your name or say something to try and challenge your manhood. The shit you're talking about seems to be mainly from one poster not the majority of women that choose to still post here. Meanwhile you can go through any thread and find any number of comments speaking negatively on any poster who goes says something that others deem as being soft or "not on code" for whatever the topic may be.
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Preach
 
BlackRain said:
Be honest, given the demographics of this site which do you see more? Men doing the things women spoke about or women doing the things you spoke about? Given that this site is majority men, it's going to be the former which means going by the logic being used in a few threads at the moment that would be the bigger issue to deal with. If you were to disagree on a topic a male poster is more likely to try and call you out your name or say something to try and challenge your manhood. The shit you're talking about seems to be mainly from one poster not the majority of women that choose to still post here. Meanwhile you can go through any thread and find any number of comments speaking negatively on any poster who goes says something that others deem as being soft or "not on code" for whatever the topic may be.
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This is exactly the reason I asked the question I did. Men don't have to be on some sexist/chauvinistic or thirsty shit to make women uncomfortable. Dudes, even friends, handle each other a lot more roughly than they tend to handle females. When you have a bunch of dudes interacting, you don't really have to worry about someone getting his feelings hurt, and if one does, he's not going to make an issue out of it because he doesn't want to be seen as a bitch. If you want to keep females on this site, dudes will have to chill with some of that and that means that the chicks on this site will likely wind up reporting shit that wasn't really sexist and wasn't really unusual for the interactions on this site.

Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. It's just something that needs to be acknowledged because if moderations are made based on those incidents, you're probably going to get some of these dudes resisting because the same moderations weren't made when they got in similar arguments with other posters. In other words all those types of moderations will have to become the norm or dudes on here will have to learn to tailor their behavior based on who they're interacting with. The latter shouldn't be that difficult because most of us do that in real life anyway.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
This is exactly the reason I asked the question I did. Men don't have to be on some sexist/chauvinistic or thirsty shit to make women uncomfortable.

the chicks on this site will likely wind up reporting shit that wasn't really sexist and wasn't really unusual for the interactions on this site.

you're probably going to get some of these dudes resisting because the same moderations weren't made when they got in similar arguments with other posters.
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BlackRain said:
Be honest, given the demographics of this site which do you see more? Men doing the things women spoke about or women doing the things you spoke about? Given that this site is majority men, it's going to be the former which means going by the logic being used in a few threads at the moment that would be the bigger issue to deal with. If you were to disagree on a topic a male poster is more likely to try and call you out your name or say something to try and challenge your manhood. The shit you're talking about seems to be mainly from one poster not the majority of women that choose to still post here. Meanwhile you can go through any thread and find any number of comments speaking negatively on any poster who goes says something that others deem as being soft or "not on code" for whatever the topic may be.
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The shit I'm talking about is from my actual experiences and other interactions I've seen play out on here with multiple females. Niggas can play like they don't know who and what situations I'm talking about. I'm not gonna say names cause then I just look like I'm trying to pick fights which I'm not.

What I was attempting to do is take accountability for some of my actions while asking some of the females to take accountability for some of theirs.
Maybe then everyone can start to heal.

I wasn't making any blanket or general statements. Everything I said can be owned by another poster. It wasn't some roundabout shit it's facts.

Time for some of us to start being the change we want to see.
 
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King Freeman said:
The shit I'm talking about is from my actual experiences and other interactions I've seen play out on here with multiple females. Niggas can play like they don't know who and what situations I'm talking about. I'm not gonna say names cause then I just look like I'm trying to pick fights which I'm not.

What I was attempting to do is take accountability for some of my actions while asking some of the females to take accountability for some of theirs.
Maybe then everyone can start to heal.

I wasn't making any blanket or general statements. Everything I said can be owned by another poster. It wasn't some roundabout shit it's facts.

Time for some of us to start being the change we want to see.
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I saw your original post

I'm glad you edited it

That's not the approach that's going to advance us imo

Either way, I'm glad you're trying to take accountability for any role you may have played.

I hope both sides can share accountability as you do
 
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