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How do we combat “Gentrification”?

Duwop said:
It's a whole mentality....

We have to change our way of thinking, and that shit don't happen in one generation... Too many old minded people still around....

College is a main part of the problem. It has its pluses... No doubt.... But a large majority of the country will be in college debt their entire lives.

ESPECIALLY black people who come from communities being gentrified.


It's been proven that if all student debt was forgiven we'd have an economic prosperity of unheard of proportions...

Imagine what that does for the black community.

The funniest shit is we are starting to get it with more black folk starting businesses and shit like that... But we behind cuz we don't have the generational experience of running businesses... We just were sent to college cuz our parents ain't know any better... They was given jobs on some affirmative action shit right outta high school.... And those was life jobs


Shit crazy deep bruh....

But the widest part is that some of the best doing black folk are the ones niggaz clowned like they was too dumb for college so they became a plumber or picked up some other trade....

And these turned it to be the niggaz withe the hustle and skill to be in their 40' yet been working for themselves for 10+ years....
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this is on point...to an extent.
 
We have to take care our neighborhoods,

Like foreal. Clean that shit up, cut your grass, pick up trash you see on your block. Fix your blinds and stop leaving them like toddler just ran through them for months on end.

Simple shit like that.

Have a sense of pride that would make folks thats already there owning the property want to stay there and forever and not just sell it off because the neighborhood is breaking down.


Have neighborhood meetings to discuss shit. Voting the right folks in place for city.








HAVE SOME DAMN PRIDE
 
Thor said:
We have to take care our neighborhoods,

Like foreal. Clean that shit up, cut your grass, pick up trash you see on your block. Fix your blinds and stop leaving them like toddler just ran through them for months on end.

Simple shit like that.

Have a sense of pride that would make folks thats already there owning the property want to stay there and forever and not just sell it off because the neighborhood is breaking down.


Have neighborhood meetings to discuss shit. Voting the right folks in place for city.








HAVE SOME DAMN PRIDE
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Home owners association in the hood lol.

Them mfs would feel terrorized people telling them move their broke down cutlass on 4 flat tires off the property.
 
  1. Organize. Have community meetings, to develop the plan and identify roles for people within the community. Elect neighborhood watch officials, create volunteer committees, etc. Organizations may well already exist within these communities, just gotta get involved.
  2. Invest in the schools near your neighborhood, especially if you got a kid. Donate time, participate in activities, join ptas and school boards. Take an active interest in what is being taught to our kids, how it is being taught, and by whom.
  3. As our influence expands in the education field (by being on those ptas and school boards) expand night school and trade school services for adult education.
  4. With schools as our foundation, employment opportunities improve. Take those same new tradesmen and put them to work in our neighborhoods.
  5. With money flowing within the community from hiring our own people for services, start placing our collective dollar in local credit unions.
  6. We have organization that helps educate and employ the community, now partner with that credit union to secure home loans so that people can buy the houses they live in.
  7. Industrialize. With home ownership secure and tradesmen working within the community, build business locations for these trades workers to operate out of. Same neighborhood watch structure applies where we self police our businesses as we do our neighborhoods.
  8. With home capital, homes, and businesses we are a functioning community. Next we select members of our community to engage with and run for public office. The same organizational steps from step 1 play out here again. Identify those who will represent us in state boards, city council, policing, chamber of commerce, zoning boards, etc.
  9. Repeat steps 1 through 8. Which amount to: education, employment, group financing, home ownership, business ownership, local governance.
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
Simply put historically ethnic swaths of lands usually near or around valuable areas where ppl not native to the area but w the means initially begin trickling in , raising the cost of living. Thus over time making it impossible for the natives of that land to continue to afford living there ultimately ending with the neighborhood no longer have those initial natives living there


something like that
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What specific gentrification incidents are you speaking on? My parents have lived in South LA since the 80's. Neighborhoods here were white before the 70's and white flight. Seen the heights of the LA gang era, the Riots, and the economic depression that followed for a good 20 years after. The #1 issue in that area was lack of investment and money flow. After the 07 recession property values were cheap. But the gentrification that followed has basically double values in just 10 years. Schools that have been subpar for decades are being upgraded. Tons of new shops, cafes, etc. are popping up. Is this a bad thing? Neighborhood is still msotly black, but now you see white and latinos around alot too, but it's all respectful.

I get wanting to keep the longstnading residents of a communties there long-term, but that's not relaistic. We only like 15% of the population, and simply put...why should we segregrate ourselves?
 
DOS_patos said:
hmmm

ethic neighborhoods are ghettos.

the definition has changed to mean a bad place.

jews were in the first ghettos if im correct.

so that would mean a all white burb is still a ghetto
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Shoot even before them in Ancient Rome or in India for those that were the "Untouchables"
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
What specific gentrification incidents are you speaking on? My parents have lived in South LA since the 80's. Neighborhoods here were white before the 70's and white flight. Seen the heights of the LA gang era, the Riots, and the economic depression that followed for a good 20 years after. The #1 issue in that area was lack of investment and money flow. After the 07 recession property values were cheap. But the gentrification that followed has basically double values in just 10 years. Schools that have been subpar for decades are being upgraded. Tons of new shops, cafes, etc. are popping up. Is this a bad thing? Neighborhood is still msotly black, but now you see white and latinos around alot too, but it's all respectful.

I get wanting to keep the longstnading residents of a communties there long-term, but that's not relaistic. We only like 15% of the population, and simply put...why should we segregrate ourselves?
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LA is different cuz the inner city and what are known as black areas are being overtaken by Mexicans
 
I read a few posts in here not all. I've spoke on this many times before and even posted an article from the washington post about this.

A lot can be said about the shit that we do and don't do in regards to what we do in terms of keeping and passing down property that we as black people own in any place.

The biggest thing I've seen in my city is that people know their kids are junkies and/or ain't worth shit but they still leave the house they worked hard to own to them. The next biggest thing is that people tell their kids that they own the house which they do by paying off the mortgage but NEVER tell their kids that all while paying the mortgage and even after they finished paying off the mortgage they had to pay property taxes. If you don't pay the property taxes you can lose the house that you own.

The move that is the worst out of them all. Is neighborhoods being gentrified and raising the property taxes sky high with old people who own their homes for decades but now live on a fixed income. Well with that fixed income they can't pay these new sky high property taxes and they don't want to move from the place they worked hard to own. So they stay and fall behind on the property taxes and get forced out.

Shit like that with the old people is why I say I focus on local elections and politicians not the presidency. The mayor and councilman are the people who are more likely to change the laws in my city that will protect the elderly home owners from having to pay the new property taxes and keep their property taxes the same so that can still afford to eat and pay utilities.

As usual @DOS_patos you not looking at the whole picture when it comes to "deebo" and the new white people coming into the neighborhood. Yall ignore a lot shit that comes to kids and the choices they make when it comes to school and the streets. Which is a thread in and of itself truthfully
 
DMorgan said:
I read a few posts in here not all. I've spoke on this many times before and even posted an article from the washington post about this.

A lot can be said about the shit that we do and don't do in regards to what we do in terms of keeping and passing down property that we as black people own in any place.

The biggest thing I've seen in my city is that people know their kids are junkies and/or ain't worth shit but they still leave the house they worked hard to own to them. The next biggest thing is that people tell their kids that they own the house which they do by paying off the mortgage but NEVER tell their kids that all while paying the mortgage and even after they finished paying off the mortgage they had to pay property taxes. If you don't pay the property taxes you can lose the house that you own.

The move that is the worst out of them all. Is neighborhoods being gentrified and raising the property taxes sky high with old people who own their homes for decades but now live on a fixed income. Well with that fixed income they can't pay these new sky high property taxes and they don't want to move from the place they worked hard to own. So they stay and fall behind on the property taxes and get forced out.

Shit like that with the old people is why I say I focus on local elections and politicians not the presidency. The mayor and councilman are the people who are more likely to change the laws in my city that will protect the elderly home owners from having to pay the new property taxes and keep their property taxes the same so that can still afford to eat and pay utilities.

As usual @DOS_patos you not looking at the whole picture when it comes to "deebo" and the new white people coming into the neighborhood. Yall ignore a lot shit that comes to kids and the choices they make when it comes to school and the streets. Which is a thread in and of itself truthfully
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speak on deebo then , hoe

whats the bigger picture?
 
DOS_patos said:
speak on deebo then , hoe

whats the bigger picture?
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I'm not a garden tool, chump!!!

First thing is Deebo doesn't really care about the block.Things you really care about you don't treat like shit. White people don't walk up on Deebo and tell him to get the fuck off the block it's there spot now. They make subtle moves and by the time he sees it's too late. So it doesn't make sense for you to want Deebo to go at white people moving in with violence when they not coming at him with violence. Also Deebo still making his pocket change doing whatever it is he's doing while they moving in. White people not Deebo competition so he not going to press them in the same sense that he is going to have an issue with another black person who in the same area that he and selling the same product that he is.

When white folks start to call the police on Deebo and his friends hanging out. Deebo move is to get the wild youngins to steal and vandalize their cars and/or house. It's not a smart to move to beat them up bare face. Or he might mask up and rob them coming home from a whiteboy wasted night of partying. Shit actually does happen to white people it ain't always just oh white people here let me get out of their way.
 
Hellczar said:
violence, unfair housing practices etc I mean less white people is the only way. All the black areas were devalued like 50 years ago.
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Way longer than that. I will also say that a lot black undervalue our own shit because of how many of us look at how white people live and do things and some of us see that as the standard to live by and thing to achieve.

In DC for example a lot of black people used to think coming up and showing you had came up was to move in certain spots in MD and VA. That was the thought because of how white people left the city and moved to Maryland and Virginia. Now the same house these black people who ran to MD & VA grew up in is being sold for 500K-1Mill. For no other reason than a few white people moved in bought what we devalued ourselves and sold off for cheap to run to the burbs. The white person now takes that cheap house guts it and renovates the house and does some landscaping and now either decides to live there or rent or sell it for a high ass amount.

We could've done the exact same thing but too many us want to follow behind what white people did to show they have money instead of doing us and taking pride in what we have and making it what we want it to be.

A house in my old neighborhood is going for 650K right now. I wouldn't pay that much for it but folks see the value in it that many of our people didn't and they reaping the benefits from it.
 
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